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Re: C.H.I.P - The World's First Nine Dollar Computer - Forth not mentioned. Another chance or already lost?

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rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> writes:
> On 5/13/2015 5:07 PM, Paul Rubin wrote:
>> The pi has an HDMI port but I wonder how many people actually use it.  I
>> don't even own any standalone monitors, 

> How many rPis do you have?  None?  I rest my case.

No rPis but I do have a Beaglebone Black.

> The vast majority of rPi purchases are by those who are *learning*
> about computers, much like the Arduino.  

Well specifically (in the case of the Arduino, and I think also of the
rPi though that's more questionable) about hardware control, i.e. doing
things with the gpio pins rather than just computing stuff.

> The big advantage of the rPi is that you can connect a TV, a keyboard
> and a mouse making it the development system as well as the target.
> That was the intended market and they have done extremely well with
> it.

But, if all you want is computation, web browsing, etc., for about the
same expenditure as an Rpi with keyboard, mouse, monitor/tv, etc. you
can get a cheap laptop that's much more useful (portable,
self-contained, faster, has mass storage).  

>>    https://www.fitvps.com/members/cart.php?a=confproduct&i=0
> Really?  Renting a pi?  It is the size of a deck of cards.  The cables
> take up more space.

Well the rental cost is also for the network connection and hosting,
plus it pays off the hardware cost at the other end.

> If you have a TV, 

My family had one when I was a kid and I remember watching Star Trek on
it, but I've never personally owned one.

> Uh, you would pay for storage of your own rPi?  Heck, I will work on
> this a bit and let you use mine for free. 

Thanks!  I might take you up on that at some point.

> But if you can use it remotely, why do you need it at all?  Can't you
> write the software for *any* linux box and have it work where you
> want?  

Compatibility testing, benchmarks, that sort of thing.  Also in the case
of the fitvps or colo hosting, it's a way to have a small and very cheap
dedicated server, which has some advantages over a VPS since nobody else
is on the machine. 

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C.H.I.P - The World's First Nine Dollar Computer - Forth not mentioned. Another chance or already lost? visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2015-05-12 17:50 -0700
  Re: C.H.I.P - The World's First Nine Dollar Computer - Forth not mentioned. Another chance or already lost? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-05-12 19:20 -0700
  Re: C.H.I.P - The World's First Nine Dollar Computer - Forth not mentioned. Another chance or already lost? Julian Fondren <ayrnieu@gmail.com> - 2015-05-12 19:48 -0700
    Re: C.H.I.P - The World's First Nine Dollar Computer - Forth not mentioned. Another chance or already lost? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-05-12 21:44 -0700
      Re: C.H.I.P - The World's First Nine Dollar Computer - Forth not mentioned. Another chance or already lost? Marcos Cruz <null_email_so_use_my_contact_page@programandala.net> - 2015-05-14 18:55 +0000
        Re: C.H.I.P - The World's First Nine Dollar Computer - Forth not mentioned. Another chance or already lost? Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2015-05-14 23:12 +0200
          Re: C.H.I.P - The World's First Nine Dollar Computer - Forth not mentioned. Another chance or already lost? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-05-15 11:33 -0400
    Re: C.H.I.P - The World's First Nine Dollar Computer - Forth not mentioned. Another chance or already lost? albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-05-13 10:49 +0000
  Re: C.H.I.P - The World's First Nine Dollar Computer - Forth not mentioned. Another chance or already lost? albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-05-13 10:46 +0000
    Re: C.H.I.P - The World's First Nine Dollar Computer - Forth not mentioned. Another chance or already lost? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-05-13 16:05 -0400
      Re: C.H.I.P - The World's First Nine Dollar Computer - Forth not mentioned. Another chance or already lost? Julian Fondren <ayrnieu@gmail.com> - 2015-05-13 13:28 -0700
      Re: C.H.I.P - The World's First Nine Dollar Computer - Forth not mentioned. Another chance or already lost? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-05-13 14:07 -0700
        Re: C.H.I.P - The World's First Nine Dollar Computer - Forth not mentioned. Another chance or already lost? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-05-13 17:23 -0400
          Re: C.H.I.P - The World's First Nine Dollar Computer - Forth not mentioned. Another chance or already lost? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-06-07 19:49 -0700
            Re: C.H.I.P - The World's First Nine Dollar Computer - Forth not mentioned. Another chance or already lost? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 23:48 -0400
              Re: C.H.I.P - The World's First Nine Dollar Computer - Forth not mentioned. Another chance or already lost? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-06-07 21:08 -0700
          Re: C.H.I.P - The World's First Nine Dollar Computer - Forth not mentioned. Another chance or already lost? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-06-07 19:52 -0700
            Re: C.H.I.P - The World's First Nine Dollar Computer - Forth not mentioned. Another chance or already lost? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 23:49 -0400

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