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Re: Chuck gets an iphone

From Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: Chuck gets an iphone
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Date 2012-10-01 09:10 -0700
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Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> writes:
> The [Android] rooting procedure consists of installing su and 
> budybox; su is an app that grants apps root privilege when they request 
> it *and* the user allows that.

Well, that depends on the type of phone, since some are apparently
harder to root than others.  How does su get root privileges in the
first place, so that it can extend it to others?

At a higher level, the Android and Iphone ecosystems both remind me of
Windows back in the day, a million little independently marketed
standalone closed-source apps that do narrow, overlapping things and
(more for phone apps than the PC apps) try to spy on and exploit the
user in various ways.  As a user and hacker I much prefer the GNU/Linux
community development model that manages to thrive in a certain
subculture of PC users, because PC's (even mass market ones) for
historical reasons have a reasonably open programming interface.
Whether for technical (closed hardware) or social reasons, it's much
less possible to do this with phones.  Nokia (Meego) was the closest
thing to a viable exception, but it's now effectively an arm of
Microsoft.

Anyway, phone stuff aside, I wonder what Chuck is up to with this
walkabout.  Maybe he will talk about it at Forth day.

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Chuck gets an iphone Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-09-27 16:46 -0700
  Re: Chuck gets an iphone jacko <jackokring@gmail.com> - 2012-09-28 10:57 -0700
  Re: Chuck gets an iphone Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> - 2012-09-30 09:28 -0400
    Re: Chuck gets an iphone Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-09-30 08:50 -0700
      Re: Chuck gets an iphone Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> - 2012-09-30 18:13 -0400
        Re: Chuck gets an iphone Mark Wills <forthfreak@gmail.com> - 2012-10-01 00:49 -0700
          Re: Chuck gets an iphone Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-10-01 01:12 -0700
            Re: Chuck gets an iphone Mark Wills <forthfreak@gmail.com> - 2012-10-01 02:05 -0700
              Re: Chuck gets an iphone Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-10-01 08:23 -0700
                Re: Chuck gets an iphone Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-10-01 17:31 +0200
                Re: Chuck gets an iphone Mark Wills <forthfreak@gmail.com> - 2012-10-01 09:05 -0700
                Re: Chuck gets an iphone Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-10-01 18:52 +0200
                Re: Chuck gets an iphone Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-10-01 09:10 -0700
                Re: Chuck gets an iphone vandys@vsta.org - 2012-10-02 15:52 +0000
              Re: Chuck gets an iphone Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-10-02 22:34 +0200
                Re: Chuck gets an iphone rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-10-02 18:09 -0400

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