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Re: Old Forth implementations

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hughaguilar96@yahoo.com wrote:

> On Wednesday, September 10, 2014 2:29:55 AM UTC-7, Just Ian wrote:
> > Elizabeth D. Rather said:
> > > I have discussed releasing the listings and manual for polyFORTH with
> > > Leon Wagner, the current President of FORTH, Inc., and he is potentially
> > > interested (though we have no time frame), but even that would take a
> > > fair amount of work at this point.
> >
> > Well, the reference manual is out there and it is extremely good. (I suspect you know that already!)
>
> Wow! That is some major brown-nosing! Maybe there is a reason why you don't give us your name --- you're an employee of Forth Inc., aren't you?
>
> Realistically, Forth Inc. will never release source-code for PolyForth. Elizabeth Rather

> and her sycophants have repeatedly stated on comp.lang.forth that PolyForth was not

> limited to 64K on the 8086 (64K for application code, application data, compiler,

> dictionary, editor --- everything!). If they now released the source-code for PolyForth,

> it would be obvious to everybody that they have been lying, and that PolyForth really

> was limited in this way. Nobody at Forth Inc. was able to figure out how the segment

> registers worked on the 8086 --- now they just want to put PolyForth behind them ---

> they don't want to shine a spotlight on the failure of PolyForth, as it is not producing any

> money anymore, and they are selling SwiftForth now.
>
> > > Leon and our other staff depends on FORTH, Inc. for a living; we have
> > > to prioritize doing what keeps the company afloat, which means supporting
> > > our current customers and products the best we can.
> >
> > Definitely.
>
> I paid over $400 for SwiftForth-v2, and it had major bugs. For example, (LOCAL)

> would crash the system when used. Forth Inc. does not support its customers. Elizabeth Rather

> has tried mightily (on the Forth-200x mailing list) to sell me an upgrade to SwiftForth-v3

> that supposedly has all of these bugs fixed. At Forth Inc. there is no distinction between

> "support" and "sales" --- if a customer calls Forth Inc. and points out that the product they

> paid for is full of bugs, the Forth Inc. staff sees this as a sales opportunity (so much better

> than cold-calling, as the potential customer has called them indicating an interest in their

> product) --- also, because the customer has already given them money, the customer

> must be of low intelligence, and can hopefully be talked into giving them more money.

> At Forth Inc., it is all about scamming people out of money --- anybody who thinks

> that Elizabeth Rather cares about anything else, is deluded.

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Old Forth implementations Just Ian <superian@gmail.com> - 2014-09-09 05:16 -0700
  Re: Old Forth implementations Paul E Bennett <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk> - 2014-09-09 17:01 +0100
    Re: Old Forth implementations Just Ian <superian@gmail.com> - 2014-09-09 12:28 -0700
      Re: Old Forth implementations Paul E Bennett <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk> - 2014-09-09 20:51 +0100
  Re: Old Forth implementations "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-09-09 07:50 -1000
    Re: Old Forth implementations albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-09-10 09:01 +0000
    Re: Old Forth implementations Just Ian <superian@gmail.com> - 2014-09-10 02:29 -0700
      Re: Old Forth implementations hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-09-10 18:46 -0700
        Re: Old Forth implementations Just Ian <superian@gmail.com> - 2014-09-11 05:45 -0700
        Re: Old Forth implementations Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2014-09-11 12:41 -0400
          Re: Old Forth implementations hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-09-11 20:41 -0700
            Re: Old Forth implementations albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-09-12 10:46 +0000
          Re: Old Forth implementations rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-09-12 00:28 -0400
            Re: Old Forth implementations Just Ian <superian@gmail.com> - 2014-09-12 02:36 -0700
              Re: Old Forth implementations rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-09-12 10:47 -0400
                Re: Old Forth implementations "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-09-12 16:22 +0100
            Re: Old Forth implementations Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2014-09-12 13:54 -0400
  Re: Old Forth implementations francois.ganza@wanadoo.fr - 2014-09-12 00:15 -0700
    Re: Old Forth implementations hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-09-12 20:15 -0700
      Re: Old Forth implementations Steve Graham <jsgrahamus@yahoo.com> - 2014-09-13 11:06 -0700
        Re: Old Forth implementations hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-09-14 19:06 -0700
          Re: Old Forth implementations francois.ganza@wanadoo.fr - 2014-09-15 22:55 -0700
            Re: Old Forth implementations Pablo Hugo Reda <pabloreda@gmail.com> - 2014-09-16 03:26 -0700
          Re: Old Forth implementations "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-09-16 16:24 +0100
            Re: Old Forth implementations mhx@iae.nl - 2014-09-19 12:37 -0700
            Re: Old Forth implementations hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-09-19 17:18 -0700
              Re: Old Forth implementations Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-09-20 02:21 -0500
            Re: Old Forth implementations Just Ian <superian@gmail.com> - 2014-09-23 11:05 -0700
              Re: Old Forth implementations "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-09-23 08:18 -1000
      Re: Old Forth implementations francois.ganza@wanadoo.fr - 2014-09-13 15:00 -0700
  Re: Old Forth implementations stephen@mpeforth.com - 2014-09-17 14:32 -0700

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