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Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set

From anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl)
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set
Date 2017-01-07 15:37 +0000
Organization Institut fuer Computersprachen, Technische Universitaet Wien
Message-ID <2017Jan7.163726@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> (permalink)
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minforth@arcor.de writes:
[FIND]
>It's the same old story ad nauseam, to repair Forth's traditional compiler =
>directives. And it is getting worse with each invention of new overloadings=
> of TO. Already TO is overloaded 4 times: singles, doubles, floats and loca=
>ls.

Actually, these are independent issues.  The problems of parsing words
also show up in S", IS, and ACTION-OF, which have no such overloading
going on.

> Overloading cries for boxed values and OO, but....

Well, the targets of TO are boxed in the form of words; Forth-2012
describes TO in an object-oriented fashion, and the development
version of Gforth implements it in an object-oriented fashion.  I am
relatively happy with both; no "but".

>What should FIND TO return then? Forbidding it is a very poor excuse IMO.

In interpretation state it should return an xt that, when executed in
interpretation state, performs the interpretation semantics of TO.

In compilation state it should return an xt/flag combination that,
when EXECUTEd or COMPILE,d (according to the flag) in compilation
state, performs the compilation semantics of TO.

Just like what should happen with every other word.

- anton
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                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-04 23:58 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-04 20:06 -0800
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-05 04:12 -0600
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                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-05 16:38 +0000
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-05 19:17 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-05 18:26 +0000
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                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-07 15:53 +0000
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-07 18:20 +0100
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                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-08 20:02 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-09 17:53 +0000
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-09 20:22 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set minforth@arcor.de - 2017-01-09 08:04 -0800
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-09 17:04 +0000
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-09 20:22 +0100
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                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set minforth@arcor.de - 2017-01-09 22:16 -0800
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                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-01-10 22:12 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-10 22:42 +0000
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                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set minforth@arcor.de - 2017-01-10 23:38 -0800
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-11 10:32 +0000
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-01-11 12:52 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-11 13:23 +0000
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set minforth@arcor.de - 2017-01-11 06:08 -0800
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-11 14:39 +0000
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                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-14 12:23 +0000
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                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-13 02:55 -0600
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-13 14:29 +0000
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Bernd Linsel <bl1@gmx.com> - 2017-01-13 16:11 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-01-13 17:26 +0100
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                Re: nt=xt? (was: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set) stephen@mpeforth.com - 2017-01-14 13:58 -0800
                Re: nt=xt? (was: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set) hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-14 14:52 -0800
                Re: nt=xt? (was: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-15 14:00 +0000
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                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-10 13:40 +0000
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2017-01-10 06:40 -0800
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-05 12:45 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 08:19 -0800
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-06 17:57 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set mhx@iae.nl - 2017-01-08 01:34 -0800
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set john <anon@example.com> - 2017-01-08 17:08 +0000
            Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-02 16:49 +0000
    Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-12-09 14:52 -0800
    Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-09 14:56 -0800
  Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Brad Eckert <hwfwguy@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 13:13 -0800
  Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set minforth@arcor.de - 2017-01-06 06:58 -0800
    Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-06 09:32 -0600
      Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set minforth@arcor.de - 2017-01-06 09:11 -0800
        Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-06 12:41 -0600
          Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-01-06 21:31 -1000
            Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-07 13:28 -0800
              Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Coos Haak <htrofhc@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 23:00 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-07 14:37 -0800
              Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-08 00:06 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-07 18:50 -0800
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-08 14:28 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-08 19:34 -0800
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-09 06:27 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-10 00:08 -0800
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-10 10:01 +0000
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-10 13:12 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set stephen@mpeforth.com - 2017-01-08 07:23 -0800
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-08 19:41 -0800
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-09 17:41 +0000
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-01-07 18:56 -1000
          TO implementation (was: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-07 14:02 +0000
            Re: TO implementation Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-07 10:51 -0600
              Re: TO implementation anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-08 15:27 +0000
                Re: TO implementation Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-08 13:36 -0600
                Re: TO implementation anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-09 18:20 +0000
                Re: TO implementation Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-10 03:56 -0600
                Re: TO implementation anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-15 15:15 +0000
                Re: TO implementation Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-15 13:34 -0600
                Re: TO implementation hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-15 14:04 -0800
                Re: TO implementation stephen@mpeforth.com - 2017-01-15 14:24 -0800
                Re: TO implementation hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-15 15:42 -0800
                Re: TO implementation hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-15 15:56 -0800
                Re: TO implementation awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-16 14:25 +0100
                Re: TO implementation hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-16 11:30 -0800
                Re: TO implementation awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-17 02:00 +0100
                Re: TO implementation albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-01-17 12:59 +0100
                Re: TO implementation awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-17 14:38 +0100
                Re: TO implementation anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-17 15:47 +0000
                Re: TO implementation hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-17 10:24 -0800
                Re: TO implementation hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-16 17:02 -0800
                Re: TO implementation awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-17 06:00 +0100
                Re: TO implementation Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-01-15 22:19 -0500
                Re: TO implementation Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-16 08:57 -0600
                Re: TO implementation anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-19 11:26 +0000
                Re: TO implementation Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-01-19 20:49 -0500
                Re: TO implementation minforth@arcor.de - 2017-01-20 00:27 -0800
                Re: TO implementation anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-20 12:20 +0000
                Re: TO implementation Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-01-26 22:42 -0500
                Re: TO implementation anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-27 08:33 +0000
                Re: TO implementation minforth@arcor.de - 2017-01-27 03:59 -0800
                Re: TO implementation anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-19 11:40 +0000
                Re: TO implementation Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-19 05:55 -0600
                Re: TO implementation anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-19 14:46 +0000
                Re: TO implementation Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-19 11:03 -0600
        Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-01-06 20:22 +0100
          Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-07 03:54 -0600
          Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-07 13:51 +0000
            Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-01-07 18:50 +0100
              Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set mhx@iae.nl - 2017-01-08 02:05 -0800
    Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-06 17:41 +0100
      Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set minforth@arcor.de - 2017-01-06 09:15 -0800
        Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-06 18:40 +0100
          Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-01-06 20:25 +0100
            Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-07 14:55 +0100
              Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-01-07 18:55 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-07 19:10 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-01-08 01:25 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-08 02:17 +0100
            Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set mhx@iae.nl - 2017-01-08 01:53 -0800
              Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-08 17:03 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Coos Haak <htrofhc@gmail.com> - 2017-01-08 17:51 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-08 18:30 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-08 10:51 -0800
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-08 20:06 +0100
          Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-07 15:31 +0000
            Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-07 18:20 +0100
              Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-01-07 18:56 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-07 19:10 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-01-08 01:26 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-08 02:06 +0100
    Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-06 17:23 -0800
    Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-07 15:37 +0000

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