Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]

Groups > comp.lang.forth > #54079

Re: TO implementation

From anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl)
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: TO implementation
Date 2017-01-17 15:47 +0000
Organization Institut fuer Computersprachen, Technische Universitaet Wien
Message-ID <2017Jan17.164742@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> (permalink)
References <9ec202ed-8f32-4b76-b1a2-3cfaafbed507@googlegroups.com> <1mzy5hx.gg7lja1z02hnN%awegel@arcor.de> <40bf4063-18ad-4e12-9b32-e3d5851b94d2@googlegroups.com> <1mzyzeu.vqy54w1yw68naN%awegel@arcor.de> <o5l0uu$1nk$1@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl>

Show all headers | View raw

albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) writes:
>In article <1mzyzeu.vqy54w1yw68naN%awegel@arcor.de>,
>Alexander Wegel <awegel@arcor.de> wrote:
>
><SNIP>
>>
>>A word being immediate means that *the same word* gets executed when
>>compiling (because that's all that can be expressed with immediacy).
>>
>>This is one reason why ans-forth was moving away from the immediacy
>>concept (which is just a simplistic implementation scheme for smart
>>compilers) towards explicitly specifying (standard and special)
>>compilation semantics of words, leaving more freedom for implementing
>>advanced compilers.

The main reason for specifying compilation semantics probably was
cmForth, which used the compiler vocabulary for compile-time execution
words like IF, (if present) for words with unusual combinations of
interpretation and compilation semantics (in Forth-94 S" and TO are in
this category, not sure which words of this kind cmForth has), and
also for native-code generation (with a bit of optimization).  

The reason for not specifying whether some words are immediate or not
probably also has quite a bit to do with cmForth (FIND on a
cmForth-like system would report all the native-code generating words
as immediate), but there were also other reasons: Some systems had an
immediate LEAVE, some a non-immediate one.

Forth-94 also introduced COMPILE, to allow standard programs to
compile on non-ITC systems (ITC systems just used "," to compile
words).

At the time, cmForth was deemed advanced, and I guess people expected
other systems to use similar compilation techniques.  Looking back, no
standard system has picked up this approach (probably because it does
not combine well with the search order).  Instead, looking at Gforth,
SwiftForth, and VFX, they all have built the native-code generation
and optimization into COMPILE, (which is the best place for that).

VFX also tries to do non-default compilation semantics through
COMPILE, (which is the wrong place for that).  So in contrast to the
cmForth, where FIND would have reported normal words as immediate,
VFX's FIND reports words with non-default compilation semantics as
non-immediate in order to get the text interpreter to COMPILE, the
resulting xt, which then performs the compilation semantics of this
word.  This approach works in text-interpreters, and but for some
other uses of COMPILE, (such as early binding in OO packages) it
produces the wrong results; fortunately, one normally does not use the
xt of S" or TO as a method in an OO package.

>The advanced compilers only differ from the immediacy compilers,
>that words marked "compiling" (was IMMEDIATE) are not supposed to
>be run in interpret mode (you can get rid of STATE, but you can't
>get rid of interpret mode).

Not sure what you mean with "immediacy compilers".  The thing about
'marked "compiling"' sounds like it is coming from Forth-83 (or
earlier).

Some compilers give an error or warning when text-interpreting (in
interpretation state) a word without interpretation semantics, some do
some more-or-less clever thing, and some do what they would do when
text-interpreting the word in compilation state.  That seems to be
pretty independent of whether the compiler uses native-code generation
and how sophisticated that code generation is.

>Likewise words marked "interpreting"
>are not supposed to run in compilation mode, but if they can be
>compiled in compilation mode:"their interpretation behaviour is added
>to the current definition".

There re no words without compilation semantics in Forth-94 or
Forth-2012.

>In other words nothing changes, except that tricks using STATE
>are explicitly forbidden.

I have no idea what you are referring to.  Can you give an example?

> In Forth to forbid something makes
>no sense, because people do it anyway.

Yes, there is certainly some truth in that observation, and lots of
examples come to my mind.

Wrt. the problems of STATE-smartness, I gave examples where that
produces the wrong result, and a frequent reaction was "Then don't do
that."  But of course, that does not prevent people from falling into
the trap unawares.

Wrt the discussion in the subject, a TO implementation that sometimes
behaves like a flag-setting implementation and sometimes deviates from
that behaviour due to "optimization", and just forbids the usages
where the behaviour is different is not a good idea.

- anton
-- 
M. Anton Ertl  http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/anton/home.html
comp.lang.forth FAQs: http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/forth/faq/toc.html
     New standard: http://www.forth200x.org/forth200x.html
   EuroForth 2016: http://www.euroforth.org/ef16/

Back to comp.lang.forth | Previous | Next — Previous in thread | Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread

Thread

Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Nathan Schulzke <nschulzke@gmail.com> - 2016-12-09 09:25 -0800
  Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Nathan Schulzke <nschulzke@gmail.com> - 2016-12-09 09:30 -0800
    Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set trans <transfire@gmail.com> - 2016-12-09 10:23 -0800
      Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Nathan Schulzke <nschulzke@gmail.com> - 2016-12-09 16:37 -0800
        Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-12-09 17:01 -0800
          Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Nathan Schulzke <nschulzke@gmail.com> - 2016-12-10 09:07 -0800
          Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-01-01 21:40 -0500
            Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-01-01 21:06 -1000
              Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-03 17:22 -0800
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2017-01-04 10:09 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set john <anon@example.com> - 2017-01-04 11:59 +0000
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-04 10:56 -0800
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-04 23:58 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-04 20:06 -0800
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-05 04:12 -0600
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-05 12:43 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-05 16:38 +0000
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-05 19:17 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-05 18:26 +0000
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-06 01:56 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-07 15:53 +0000
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-07 18:20 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-08 16:33 +0000
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-08 20:02 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-09 17:53 +0000
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-09 20:22 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set minforth@arcor.de - 2017-01-09 08:04 -0800
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-09 17:04 +0000
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-09 20:22 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-01-10 01:41 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set minforth@arcor.de - 2017-01-09 22:16 -0800
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-10 09:44 +0000
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-01-10 15:19 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-10 15:24 +0000
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-10 15:35 +0000
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-01-10 22:12 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-10 22:42 +0000
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-01-11 00:23 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-10 23:35 +0000
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set minforth@arcor.de - 2017-01-10 23:38 -0800
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-11 10:32 +0000
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-01-11 12:52 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-11 13:23 +0000
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set minforth@arcor.de - 2017-01-11 06:08 -0800
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-11 14:39 +0000
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2017-01-11 23:00 -0800
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-12 13:55 +0000
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-12 14:06 +0000
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2017-01-13 06:29 -0800
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-13 14:52 +0000
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-14 12:23 +0000
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-12 15:47 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-12 15:09 +0000
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-12 20:23 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-12 21:21 +0000
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-01-13 03:45 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-13 02:55 -0600
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-13 14:29 +0000
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Bernd Linsel <bl1@gmx.com> - 2017-01-13 16:11 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-01-13 17:26 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-01-13 17:27 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-13 17:01 +0000
                nt=xt? (was: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-14 15:35 +0000
                Re: nt=xt? (was: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set) stephen@mpeforth.com - 2017-01-14 13:58 -0800
                Re: nt=xt? (was: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set) hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-14 14:52 -0800
                Re: nt=xt? (was: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-15 14:00 +0000
                Re: nt=xt? (was: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set) albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-01-15 16:51 +0100
                Re: nt=xt? (was: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-15 16:04 +0000
                Re: nt=xt? (was: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set) hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-15 13:47 -0800
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-14 12:39 +0000
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Matthias Trute <matthias.trute@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 22:14 -0800
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-14 13:45 +0000
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2017-01-14 08:51 -0800
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set minforth@arcor.de - 2017-01-14 09:23 -0800
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-14 18:02 +0000
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2017-01-09 23:42 -0800
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-10 09:36 +0000
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2017-01-10 03:55 -0800
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-10 13:40 +0000
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2017-01-10 06:40 -0800
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-05 12:45 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 08:19 -0800
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-06 17:57 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set mhx@iae.nl - 2017-01-08 01:34 -0800
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set john <anon@example.com> - 2017-01-08 17:08 +0000
            Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-02 16:49 +0000
    Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-12-09 14:52 -0800
    Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-09 14:56 -0800
  Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Brad Eckert <hwfwguy@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 13:13 -0800
  Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set minforth@arcor.de - 2017-01-06 06:58 -0800
    Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-06 09:32 -0600
      Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set minforth@arcor.de - 2017-01-06 09:11 -0800
        Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-06 12:41 -0600
          Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-01-06 21:31 -1000
            Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-07 13:28 -0800
              Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Coos Haak <htrofhc@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 23:00 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-07 14:37 -0800
              Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-08 00:06 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-07 18:50 -0800
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-08 14:28 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-08 19:34 -0800
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-09 06:27 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-10 00:08 -0800
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-10 10:01 +0000
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-10 13:12 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set stephen@mpeforth.com - 2017-01-08 07:23 -0800
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-08 19:41 -0800
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-09 17:41 +0000
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-01-07 18:56 -1000
          TO implementation (was: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-07 14:02 +0000
            Re: TO implementation Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-07 10:51 -0600
              Re: TO implementation anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-08 15:27 +0000
                Re: TO implementation Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-08 13:36 -0600
                Re: TO implementation anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-09 18:20 +0000
                Re: TO implementation Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-10 03:56 -0600
                Re: TO implementation anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-15 15:15 +0000
                Re: TO implementation Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-15 13:34 -0600
                Re: TO implementation hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-15 14:04 -0800
                Re: TO implementation stephen@mpeforth.com - 2017-01-15 14:24 -0800
                Re: TO implementation hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-15 15:42 -0800
                Re: TO implementation hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-15 15:56 -0800
                Re: TO implementation awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-16 14:25 +0100
                Re: TO implementation hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-16 11:30 -0800
                Re: TO implementation awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-17 02:00 +0100
                Re: TO implementation albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-01-17 12:59 +0100
                Re: TO implementation awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-17 14:38 +0100
                Re: TO implementation anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-17 15:47 +0000
                Re: TO implementation hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-17 10:24 -0800
                Re: TO implementation hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-16 17:02 -0800
                Re: TO implementation awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-17 06:00 +0100
                Re: TO implementation Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-01-15 22:19 -0500
                Re: TO implementation Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-16 08:57 -0600
                Re: TO implementation anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-19 11:26 +0000
                Re: TO implementation Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-01-19 20:49 -0500
                Re: TO implementation minforth@arcor.de - 2017-01-20 00:27 -0800
                Re: TO implementation anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-20 12:20 +0000
                Re: TO implementation Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-01-26 22:42 -0500
                Re: TO implementation anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-27 08:33 +0000
                Re: TO implementation minforth@arcor.de - 2017-01-27 03:59 -0800
                Re: TO implementation anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-19 11:40 +0000
                Re: TO implementation Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-19 05:55 -0600
                Re: TO implementation anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-19 14:46 +0000
                Re: TO implementation Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-19 11:03 -0600
        Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-01-06 20:22 +0100
          Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-07 03:54 -0600
          Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-07 13:51 +0000
            Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-01-07 18:50 +0100
              Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set mhx@iae.nl - 2017-01-08 02:05 -0800
    Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-06 17:41 +0100
      Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set minforth@arcor.de - 2017-01-06 09:15 -0800
        Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-06 18:40 +0100
          Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-01-06 20:25 +0100
            Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-07 14:55 +0100
              Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-01-07 18:55 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-07 19:10 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-01-08 01:25 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-08 02:17 +0100
            Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set mhx@iae.nl - 2017-01-08 01:53 -0800
              Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-08 17:03 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Coos Haak <htrofhc@gmail.com> - 2017-01-08 17:51 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-08 18:30 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-08 10:51 -0800
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-08 20:06 +0100
          Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-07 15:31 +0000
            Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-07 18:20 +0100
              Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-01-07 18:56 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-07 19:10 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-01-08 01:26 +0100
                Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-08 02:06 +0100
    Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-06 17:23 -0800
    Re: Ideal Stack Machine Instruction Set anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-07 15:37 +0000

csiph-web