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| From | anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.forth |
| Subject | Re: Was just wondering when people started using C to write forth languages and not assembly? |
| Date | 2016-05-26 10:02 +0000 |
| Organization | Institut fuer Computersprachen, Technische Universitaet Wien |
| Message-ID | <2016May26.120218@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> (permalink) |
| References | (4 earlier) <bae2499a-8eb5-4f95-b931-e7ca603ea396@googlegroups.com> <5744b876.523720144@news.eternal-september.org> <d4d9771c-c42a-431e-8a08-1631a68eec30@googlegroups.com> <57456b2c.569470043@news.eternal-september.org> <46c2c6ed-f68e-4358-94e2-1b197b9f38a3@googlegroups.com> |
hughaguilar96@gmail.com writes:
>This is totally untrue. My disambiguifiers make *ALL* ANS-Forth systems beh=
>ave the same in regard to FIND. Your VFX has the words that were traditiona=
>lly immediate (such as IF etc.) being non-immediate and being special-cased=
> by COMPILE, so they execute at compile-time like immediate words. GFORTH h=
>as FIND return different xt values for these words depending upon the value=
> of STATE at the time that FIND is executed. Using FIND or tick on these wo=
>rds is an ambiguous condition, so pretty much anything can be done (includi=
>ng reformatting the hard-disk) and that would be ANS-Forth compliant.
There is no ambiguous condition specified for FIND. And if you do BL
WORD FIND, or apply FIND to any other kind of counted string, the
results are as specified in the specification of FIND:
<http://forth-standard.org/standard/core/FIND>:
|FIND ( c-addr -- c-addr 0 | xt 1 | xt -1 )
|
|Find the definition named in the counted string at c-addr. If the
|definition is not found, return c-addr and zero. If the definition is
|found, return its execution token xt. If the definition is immediate,
|also return one (1), otherwise also return minus-one (-1). For a given
|string, the values returned by FIND while compiling may differ from
|those returned while not compiling.
So it does not specify the xt or immediacy exactly, but formatting the
hard disk is not in the book. Admittedly, if you point c-addr to some
memory-mapped I/O registers that perform some action on reading the
registers, you may get interesting results, but that's the same as
with any other memory access to memory not provided by the Forth
system.
- anton
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Re: Was just wondering when people started using C to write forth languages and not assembly? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-20 15:24 -0700
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Re: Native Gforth anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-06-02 12:54 +0000
Re: Was just wondering when people started using C to write forth languages and not assembly? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-06-02 12:34 +0000
Re: Was just wondering when people started using C to write forth languages and not assembly? Albert van der Horst <albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2016-05-19 18:35 +0000
Re: Was just wondering when people started using C to write forth languages and not assembly? Darin Murphy <murphy.darin@gmail.com> - 2016-05-19 12:07 -0700
Re: Was just wondering when people started using C to write forth languages and not assembly? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-05-20 12:48 +0000
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Re: Was just wondering when people started using C to write forth languages and not assembly? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-05-19 07:43 +0000
Re: Was just wondering when people started using C to write forth languages and not assembly? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-05-19 08:13 +0000
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