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Re: 2012 rc2: LOCALS|

From anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl)
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: 2012 rc2: LOCALS|
Date 2014-02-12 09:45 +0000
Organization Institut fuer Computersprachen, Technische Universitaet Wien
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darktjm@gmail.com writes:
>Hello,
>
>A comment on the forth-rc2 document:
>
>I was going to post this to the 200x list, but my Yahoo account has long expired due to inactivity, and I refuse to sign up for a new account if entering a mobile phone number is required.

I don't think you need a Yahoo account for sending mail to the list,
but I am not really up to data on this.  Anyway, several committee members also read here, so 

>LOCALS| still says "up to eight", even though the limit has been
>raised to 16.  I assume this is unintentional.

Not quite sure about that.  I don't remember if we discussed it, but
maybe we have and just decided not to touch LOCALS|.

Any existing programs that use LOCALS| will work as they worked
before.  Any new programs or programs that get more locals in the
course of maintenance can (and IMO should) use {: instead.

That being said, if a system supports 16 locals, I doubt LOCALS| will
support fewer locals on that system (if the system implements
LOCALS|).

On the meta level, it was a mistake (in Forth-94) to put the limit in
two places.  We did not repeat this mistake in the definition of {:.

>In fact, I was always
>wondering why the implementation can support more than 8 locals, but
>LOCALS| is fixed to 8.

A standard program (without environmental dependences) cannot use more
than 8 locals.  What a system does when you write a LOCALS| definition
with more than 8 locals is up to the system.  Many things in the
standard work that way: It describes what a standard program looks
like and how a stanard system behaves when it encounters a standard
program, but does not say anything about non-standard programs.

- anton
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2012 rc2: LOCALS| darktjm@gmail.com - 2014-02-11 18:49 -0800
  Re: 2012 rc2: LOCALS| "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-02-11 17:05 -1000
    Re: 2012 rc2: LOCALS| darktjm@gmail.com - 2014-02-11 20:26 -0800
      Re: 2012 rc2: LOCALS| "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-02-11 19:18 -1000
  Re: 2012 rc2: LOCALS| anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-02-12 09:45 +0000
    Re: 2012 rc2: LOCALS| darktjm@gmail.com - 2014-02-12 18:13 -0800
      Re: 2012 rc2: LOCALS| Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-02-13 00:39 -0800
        Re: 2012 rc2: LOCALS| Elizabeth D Rather <erather@forth.com> - 2014-02-12 22:56 -1000
      Re: 2012 rc2: LOCALS| anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-02-13 09:06 +0000
      Re: 2012 rc2: LOCALS| stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2014-02-13 12:44 +0000
        2012 rc2: REPLACES/SUBSTITUTES darktjm@gmail.com - 2014-02-13 14:19 -0800

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