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| From | anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.forth |
| Subject | Re: Is there a better way? |
| Date | 2012-11-05 14:53 +0000 |
| Organization | Institut fuer Computersprachen, Technische Universitaet Wien |
| Message-ID | <2012Nov5.155319@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> (permalink) |
| References | (4 earlier) <53c1b304-a287-4580-b783-c78f000ab08a@h16g2000vby.googlegroups.com> <2012Nov2.183108@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <7xehkb7vnx.fsf@ruckus.brouhaha.com> <2012Nov2.191217@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <Z6adnfJ-05SEjAnNnZ2dnUVZ_rOdnZ2d@supernews.com> |
"Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> writes:
>On 11/2/12 8:12 AM, Anton Ertl wrote:
>> Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> writes:
>>> anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) writes:
>>>> Word-savers at work! Instead of specifying STR= and STR<, they
>>>> specified COMPARE with a more complicated interface, and saved one
>>>> word.
>>>
>>> Would the other way be to write separate implementations of STR=,
>>> STR<, STR>, STR<=, and STR>= ?
>>
>> The other way would be to write STR= and STR<, just like there is D=
>> and D< (and likewise, there is no F> F<= F>=, U<=, U>=, and U> is Core
>> Ext). Forthers know how to use this kind of comparison.
>>
>> Sure, if we had generic COMP UCOMP DCOMP FCOMP words with a
>> COMPARE-like interfaces, we could combine them with 0= 0< 0> and save
>> some words compared to the traditional Forth approach (and some might
>> argue that the resulting inefficiency can be optimized away by modern
>> Forth compilers, like they did in discussions about sub-cell access).
>> But given that Forth-94 did not go that way for cell, double-cell, and
>> FP comparisons, it should not have gone that way for string
>> comparison, either.
>
>If you're doing a sort, it's far more useful to have a single comparison
>word that gives you the answer.
As Bernd explained, STR<= is good for sorting, and I am sure STR<
would not be any worse than COMPARE.
>String comparisons are not used in applications in ways that are
>directly analogous to numeric comparisons. The needs are a little
>different. STR= and STR< would be far less useful than COMPARE, I think.
Well, I used COMPARE for quite some time, because it was the standard
string comparison word, but after a while I noticed that it was
usually not quite what I needed, eventually I found a few patterns and
factored them into words (plus a word that covers the rest):
str= c-addr1 u1 c-addr2 u2 -- f
str< c-addr1 u1 c-addr2 u2 -- f
string-prefix? c-addr1 u1 c-addr2 u2 -- f
Is c-addr2 u2 a prefix of c-addr1 u1?
Let's see how often they occur in the Gforth sources:
[c8:/tmp/gforth:31919] grep -i 'compare' *.fs kernel/*.fs|wc -l
23
[c8:/tmp/gforth:31920] grep -i 'str=' *.fs kernel/*.fs|wc -l
57
[c8:/tmp/gforth:31921] grep -i 'str<' *.fs kernel/*.fs|wc -l
0
[c8:/tmp/gforth:31922] grep -i 'string-prefix?' *.fs kernel/*.fs|wc -l
26
And of the 23 lines where COMPARE occurs, 6 are in comments, 2 are in
listings of Forth-94 names, 5 refer to words that contain "compare" in
their name (but are not COMPARE), and the rest is:
glosgen.fs: DUP @ 2 CELLS + COUNT CHARPTR @ 2 CELLS + COUNT COMPARE 0<=
Could be replaced with STR<= (or, written a bit differently, with STR<).
glosgen.fs: SCAN-WORD S" (" COMPARE 0= IF
glosgen.fs: HERE C@ 1 > HERE CHAR+ 2 S" \G" COMPARE 0= AND
prims2x.fs: name-filename 2@ last-name-filename 2@ compare if
prims2x.fs: s" #line " r@ over compare if
prims2x0.6.2.fs: name-filename 2@ last-name-filename 2@ compare if
prims2x0.6.2.fs: s" #line " r@ over compare if
regexp.fs: dup >r 2>r rest$ r@ umin 2r> compare IF rdrop true ELSE r> + false THEN ;
regexp.fs:: ,=" ( addr u -- ) tuck dup ]] rest$ Literal umin SLiteral compare ?LEAVE Literal + [[ ;
All these occurences could obviously be replaced with STR= or STR<>.
wf.fs: '# scan 1 /string toc-name $@ compare >r
which is later followed by
r@ 0= IF s" *]|-@/circle.jpg"
...
3 OF r@ 0= IF s" circle" ELSE s" down" THEN class= ENDOF
...
rdrop
So this COMPARE could also be replaced by STR=.
It's true, though, that there is a difference between string
comparisons and numeric comparisons: Strings are more rarely compared
for the <, <=, >, >= relations (given that COMPARE does not compare
according to the collating order, it would not be a good word for that
in most cases anyway). While comparison for equality is most frequent
in numerical comparisons, too, the proportion of < comparisons is
still quite a bit higher:
[c8:/tmp/gforth:31934] grep ' = ' *.fs kernel/*.fs|grep -v 'd<>'|wc -l
374
[c8:/tmp/gforth:31935] grep ' u< ' *.fs kernel/*.fs|grep -v 'd<>'|wc -l
36
[c8:/tmp/gforth:31936] grep ' < ' *.fs kernel/*.fs|grep -v 'd<>'|wc -l
29
- anton
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Re: Is there a better way? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-10-31 05:22 -0700
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Re: Words consuming arguments, was [Re: Is there a better way?] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-11-13 13:53 +0000
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Re: Words consuming arguments, was [Re: Is there a better way?] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-11-13 18:02 +0000
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Re: Words consuming arguments, was [Re: Is there a better way?] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-11-15 16:59 +0000
Re: Words consuming arguments, was [Re: Is there a better way?] Mark Wills <forthfreak@gmail.com> - 2012-11-13 07:55 -0800
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Re: Words consuming arguments, was [Re: Is there a better way?] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-11-14 15:28 +0000
Re: Words consuming arguments, was [Re: Is there a better way?] Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-11-14 17:54 +0100
Re: Words consuming arguments, was [Re: Is there a better way?] Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2012-11-14 15:01 -0800
Re: Words consuming arguments, was [Re: Is there a better way?] Mark Wills <forthfreak@gmail.com> - 2012-11-15 00:08 -0800
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Re: Strings (was: Words consuming arguments) "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@notemailnotz.cnm> - 2012-11-15 18:35 -0500
Re: Strings (was: Words consuming arguments) stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2012-11-16 00:36 +0000
Re: Strings (was: Words consuming arguments) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-11-16 17:42 +0000
Re: Strings (was: Words consuming arguments) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-11-16 17:55 +0000
Re: Words consuming arguments, was [Re: Is there a better way?] Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2012-11-17 04:18 -0800
Re: Words consuming arguments, was [Re: Is there a better way?] Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-11-17 04:56 -0800
Re: Words consuming arguments, was [Re: Is there a better way?] "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2012-11-17 07:24 -1000
Re: Words consuming arguments, was [Re: Is there a better way?] Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2012-11-19 15:58 -0800
Re: Words consuming arguments, was [Re: Is there a better way?] Brad Eckert <hwfwguy@gmail.com> - 2012-11-20 08:17 -0800
Re: Words consuming arguments, was [Re: Is there a better way?] "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@notemailnotz.cnm> - 2012-11-14 06:30 -0500
Re: Words consuming arguments, was [Re: Is there a better way?] "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2012-11-14 09:06 -1000
Re: Words consuming arguments, was [Re: Is there a better way?] "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@notemailnotz.cnm> - 2012-11-15 06:18 -0500
Re: Words consuming arguments, was [Re: Is there a better way?] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-11-13 04:26 -0600
Re: Words consuming arguments, was [Re: Is there a better way?] "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@notemailnotz.cnm> - 2012-11-14 06:29 -0500
Re: Words consuming arguments, was [Re: Is there a better way?] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-11-14 06:03 -0600
Re: Words consuming arguments, was [Re: Is there a better way?] "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@notemailnotz.cnm> - 2012-11-15 07:15 -0500
Re: Words consuming arguments, was [Re: Is there a better way?] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-11-15 11:51 -0600
Re: Words consuming arguments, was [Re: Is there a better way?] "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@notemailnotz.cnm> - 2012-11-15 18:44 -0500
Re: Words consuming arguments, was [Re: Is there a better way?] Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-11-16 03:50 -0600
Re: Words consuming arguments, was [Re: Is there a better way?] "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2012-11-15 08:09 -1000
Re: Words consuming arguments, was [Re: Is there a better way?] "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2012-11-06 21:19 -1000
Re: Words consuming arguments, was [Re: Is there a better way?] "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@notemailnotz.cnm> - 2012-11-07 20:00 -0500
Re: Words consuming arguments, was [Re: Is there a better way?] stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2012-11-08 10:49 +0000
Re: Words consuming arguments, was [Re: Is there a better way?] albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2012-11-07 14:01 +0000
Re: Is there a better way? awegel@arcor.de (Alex Wegel) - 2012-11-04 11:07 +0100
Re: Is there a better way? awegel@arcor.de (Alex Wegel) - 2012-11-04 11:36 +0100
Re: Is there a better way? Mark Wills <forthfreak@gmail.com> - 2012-11-04 03:48 -0800
Re: Is there a better way? awegel@arcor.de (Alex Wegel) - 2012-11-04 13:31 +0100
Re: Is there a better way? Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2012-11-04 13:29 +0100
Re: Is there a better way? Mark Wills <forthfreak@gmail.com> - 2012-11-04 04:42 -0800
Re: Is there a better way? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-11-04 02:38 -0600
Re: Is there a better way? Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> - 2012-10-31 10:20 -0400
Re: Is there a better way? humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2012-10-31 05:53 -0700
Re: Is there a better way? Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> - 2012-10-31 09:23 -0400
Re: Is there a better way? Mark Wills <forthfreak@gmail.com> - 2012-10-31 06:41 -0700
Re: Is there a better way? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-10-31 11:46 -0500
Re: Is there a better way? Mark Wills <forthfreak@gmail.com> - 2012-10-31 14:27 -0700
Re: Is there a better way? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-10-31 14:32 -0700
Re: Is there a better way? Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2012-10-31 16:15 -0700
Re: Is there a better way? Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2012-10-31 22:49 +0100
Re: Is there a better way? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-10-31 17:13 -0500
Re: Is there a better way? Mark Wills <forthfreak@gmail.com> - 2012-10-31 23:39 -0700
Re: Is there a better way? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2012-10-31 20:58 -1000
Re: Is there a better way? Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2012-11-01 02:04 -0700
Re: Is there a better way? "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@notemailnotz.cnm> - 2012-10-31 19:13 -0400
Re: Is there a better way? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-11-02 17:31 +0000
Re: Is there a better way? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-11-02 10:37 -0700
Re: Is there a better way? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-11-02 18:12 +0000
Re: Is there a better way? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2012-11-02 08:29 -1000
Re: Is there a better way? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-11-05 14:53 +0000
Re: Is there a better way? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-11-02 11:30 -0700
Re: Is there a better way? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-11-03 00:15 +0100
Re: Is there a better way? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-11-02 19:21 -0400
Re: Is there a better way? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-11-03 00:42 +0100
Re: Is there a better way? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-11-02 20:21 -0400
Re: Is there a better way? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-11-03 01:44 +0100
Re: Is there a better way? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-11-03 12:12 -0400
Re: Is there a better way? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-11-03 18:24 +0100
Re: Is there a better way? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-11-03 14:00 -0400
Re: Is there a better way? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-11-03 10:29 -0700
Re: Is there a better way? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-11-02 18:42 -0700
Re: Is there a better way? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-11-05 11:45 +0000
Re: Is there a better way? albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2012-11-01 21:00 +0000
Re: Is there a better way? albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2012-10-31 15:26 +0000
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Re: Is there a better way? Mark Wills <forthfreak@gmail.com> - 2012-10-31 15:07 -0700
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Re: Is there a better way? Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> - 2012-11-01 10:34 -0400
Re: Is there a better way? Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> - 2012-11-01 10:48 -0400
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Re: Is there a better way? Pablo Hugo Reda <pabloreda@gmail.com> - 2012-10-31 14:51 -0700
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Re: Is there a better way? Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2012-10-31 23:47 +0100
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Re: Is there a better way? Mark Wills <forthfreak@gmail.com> - 2012-10-31 15:11 -0700
Re: Is there a better way? Pablo Hugo Reda <pabloreda@gmail.com> - 2012-10-31 15:44 -0700
Re: Is there a better way? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-11-01 13:55 -0400
Re: Is there a better way? Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2012-10-31 16:10 -0700
Re: Is there a better way? Charles Mélice <charles.melice@gmail.com> - 2012-11-02 01:10 -0700
Re: Is there a better way? Charles Mélice <charles.melice@gmail.com> - 2012-11-02 01:18 -0700
Re: Is there a better way? Mark Wills <forthfreak@gmail.com> - 2012-11-02 01:58 -0700
Re: Is there a better way? Charles Mélice <charles.melice@gmail.com> - 2012-11-02 02:14 -0700
Re: Is there a better way? Charles Mélice <charles.melice@gmail.com> - 2012-11-02 02:16 -0700
Re: Is there a better way? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-11-02 06:16 -0500
Re: Is there a better way? Charles Mélice <charles.melice@gmail.com> - 2012-11-02 06:04 -0700
Re: Is there a better way? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-11-02 13:13 -0400
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