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  Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 05:01 -0800
    Whackjob (Was: Go to church) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2017-02-12 13:13 +0000
    Re: Go to church "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 00:33 +0800
      Re: Go to church "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-02-12 19:51 -0800
        Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 20:51 -0800
          Re: Go to church Ken Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2017-02-13 12:37 -0500
            Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 09:54 -0800
            Re: Go to church "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-02-13 16:00 -0800
              Re: Go to church Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2017-02-16 19:27 -0700
                Re: Go to church Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-02-17 08:50 +0000
                Re: Go to church joel.rees@gmail.com - 2017-05-01 18:46 -0700
    Re: Go to church Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> - 2017-02-13 14:15 -0400
      Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 13:29 -0800
      Re: Go to church fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 14:01 -0800
        Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 15:24 -0800
      Re: Go to church "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 01:01 +0800
        Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 09:30 -0800
          Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 09:52 -0800
            Re: Go to church asetofsymbols@gmail.com - 2017-02-15 00:42 -0800
              Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 05:11 -0800
          Re: Go to church "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 22:14 +0800
            Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 07:10 -0800
              Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 07:15 -0800
                Re: Go to church "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-16 00:03 +0800
                  Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 08:11 -0800
                    Re: Go to church "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-02-15 17:41 -0800
                      Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 18:24 -0800
                        Re: Go to church "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-02-15 19:08 -0800
                          Re: Go to church "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-02-15 19:08 -0800
                            Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 19:25 -0800
                              Re: Go to church "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-02-15 20:40 -0800
                                Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-16 03:35 -0800
                                  Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-16 04:39 -0800
                                  Re: Go to church "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-02-16 16:54 -0800
                                    Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-16 17:15 -0800
                                      Re: Go to church "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-02-16 17:19 -0800
                                        Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-16 18:25 -0800
                                    Re: Go to church Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-02-16 17:28 -0800
                                      Re: Go to church "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-02-16 17:44 -0800
                                        Re: Go to church gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2017-02-17 09:59 +0000
                                          Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 03:34 -0800
                                            Re: Go to church Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2017-02-18 15:20 -0800
                                          Re: Go to church fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 06:31 -0800
                                      Re: Go to church gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2017-02-17 09:54 +0000
                                      Re: Go to church "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-02-23 16:12 -0800
                                        Re: Go to church Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-02-24 10:20 +0000
                                      Re: Go to church Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-05-01 13:54 -0700
                                        Re: Go to church Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 14:05 -0700
                                          Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 15:57 -0700
                                            Re: Go to church Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 16:45 -0700
              Re: Go to church "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-16 00:02 +0800
                Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 08:08 -0800
                Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 09:26 -0800
                  Re: Go to church "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-16 22:04 +0800
                    Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-16 06:20 -0800
                      Re: "Growing old exists because of sin"? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 22:44 +0800
                        Re: "Growing old exists because of sin"? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 07:15 -0800
                          Re: "Growing old exists because of sin"? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 00:09 +0800
                            Re: "Growing old exists because of sin"? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 08:26 -0800
                              Re: no interest in your magic "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 01:01 +0800
                                Re: no interest in your magic "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 09:10 -0800
                                  Re: no interest in your magic "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 16:27 +0800
                                    Re: no interest in your magic "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 04:33 -0800
                                      Re: no interest in your magic gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2017-02-19 13:39 +0000
                                        Re: no interest in your magic "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 06:09 -0800
                                          Re: no interest in your magic "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 07:43 -0800
                                            Re: no interest in your magic gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2017-02-19 16:03 +0000
                                          Re: no interest in your magic gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2017-02-19 16:05 +0000
                                            Re: no interest in your magic "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 09:20 -0800
              Re: Go to church David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 12:31 -0700
                Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 12:41 -0700
                  Re: Go to church Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 14:33 -0700
                    Re: Go to church joel.rees@gmail.com - 2017-05-03 17:27 -0700
                      Re: Go to church Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 22:41 -0700
                        Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 05:23 -0700
                          Re: Go to church joel.rees@gmail.com - 2017-05-04 19:51 -0700
                            Re: Go to church Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-04 19:58 -0700
                  Re: Go to church joel.rees@gmail.com - 2017-05-03 17:38 -0700
                    Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 18:23 -0700
                      Re: Go to church Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 22:38 -0700
                    Re: Go to church Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 22:39 -0700
                Re: Go to church Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 14:34 -0700
    Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-16 07:33 -0800
      Re: Go to church Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> - 2017-02-16 16:59 -0400
        Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-16 21:30 -0800
          Re: Go to church Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> - 2017-02-19 01:15 -0400
            Re: Go to church "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 21:24 -0800
              Re: Go to church GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 09:27 +0100
                Re: Go to church joel.rees@gmail.com - 2017-05-01 18:53 -0700
                  Re: Go to church GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-02 08:59 +0200
                    Re: Go to church joel.rees@gmail.com - 2017-05-03 17:32 -0700
                      Re: Go to church GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 10:39 +0200
                        C#/Mono independence (Re: Go to church) joel.rees@gmail.com - 2017-05-04 16:29 -0700

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#103722 — Go to church

That still small voice you hear on the inside, the one drawing you from
within, reminding you of the things you should be doing, and pointing
out the things you shouldn't be doing ... listen to it.  That voice was
put there by God to guide you into all rightness, and away from
everything wrong, hurtful and harmful (to yourself and others).

Even though you've done hurtful and harmful things to others, God
still wants to forgive you.  He still loves you.  He still wants to turn
your life around and give it to Him, to follow after the works of
truth and light, rather than pursuits of self-interest in darkness.

We all need each other.  We need to help each other become the
full and rich people we can be.  And we need God to help us overcome
those things we cannot overcome on our own.

Go to church each week.  Learn about Jesus Christ.  Learn what it
means to seek after and pursue that still, small voice on the inside,
rather than continuing to drown it out with other things, ignoring
it hoping it will go away.

This is your time to step forward in faith, to take heed of His inner call,
to answer that call and pursue Him to that end He has for you, even
forgiveness of your sin, and eternal life in Heaven in a body like
the angels, beautiful, young, and strong.

A life you never imagined awaits you in pursuit of Him.  He redeems
you and restores you to life (spiritual life), such that new things
abound within your new man existence.  It is absolutely beyond that
which you could imagine, because it's all completely new, through
the new man nature, and the new life after the spirit.

God loves you, and will forgive you.  Just ask Him to forgive you
from where you are.  He does the rest.  And then make the real
conscious choice to listen to that inner voice, to go to church, to say
no to sin in your life, and yes to holiness and pursuits by which
you help others.

We have weaknesses as individuals, but we are strong together.  Go
to church and be part of that community of strength, remembering
that the same enemy at work out here in the world, also tries with
extra effort to gain footholds in the church.  You must maintain your
integrity and focus on Him first, and other things second, and then
also teach and gently remind those in the church the same.
Lead them continually back to where they should be, as He leads
you from within.

Don't be prideful in your new faith.  Remember from where you cane
and help others to come to forgiveness in Jesus in the like manner He
forgave you, by having heard this message by spreading it and by
teaching people about Him.

We need Him in our lives.  First, and out front.  He is our Redeemer.
Our Salvation.  Our Guide.  Our Teacher.  And Je is also our Friend.

Never let the enemy's lies convince you ahead of the truth.  Remain
in Him, focused, and teaching and rebuking, being ready to also be
rebuked should you open your mouth and teach something falsely in
ignorance.  He gently guides all of us down the straight and narrow
path.  Because He loves us.

Love you,
Rick C. Hodgin

PS - For those who hear His call and know what I'm talking about,
welcome.  The Kingdom of God awaits you.  May you serve Him
always in honest integrity, with a right mind and focus on leading
more people to His Son Jesus, so they can also be forgiven and
be saved.  Always done in much peace and much love.

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#103723 — Whackjob (Was: Go to church)

In article <4a5d9852-f068-4e73-8c51-76f5a5b4ece0@googlegroups.com>,
Rick C. Hodgin <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote:
>That still small voice you hear on the inside, the one drawing you from
>within, reminding you of the things you should be doing, and pointing
>out the things you shouldn't be doing ... listen to it.  That voice was
>put there by God to guide you into all rightness, and away from
>everything wrong, hurtful and harmful (to yourself and others).

Crank.

>Even though you've done hurtful and harmful things to others, God
>still wants to forgive you.  He still loves you.  He still wants to turn
>your life around and give it to Him, to follow after the works of
>truth and light, rather than pursuits of self-interest in darkness.

Bananas.

>We all need each other.  We need to help each other become the
>full and rich people we can be.  And we need God to help us overcome
>those things we cannot overcome on our own.

Creepy Freakazoid.

>Go to church each week.  Learn about Jesus Christ.  Learn what it
>means to seek after and pursue that still, small voice on the inside,
>rather than continuing to drown it out with other things, ignoring
>it hoping it will go away.

NutJob.

>This is your time to step forward in faith, to take heed of His inner call,
>to answer that call and pursue Him to that end He has for you, even
>forgiveness of your sin, and eternal life in Heaven in a body like
>the angels, beautiful, young, and strong.

Breadbags on the soles of her shoes.

>A life you never imagined awaits you in pursuit of Him.  He redeems
>you and restores you to life (spiritual life), such that new things
>abound within your new man existence.  It is absolutely beyond that
>which you could imagine, because it's all completely new, through
>the new man nature, and the new life after the spirit.

More than a few screws loose.

>God loves you, and will forgive you.  Just ask Him to forgive you
>from where you are.  He does the rest.  And then make the real
>conscious choice to listen to that inner voice, to go to church, to say
>no to sin in your life, and yes to holiness and pursuits by which
>you help others.

Make America Great Again.

>We have weaknesses as individuals, but we are strong together.  Go
>to church and be part of that community of strength, remembering
>that the same enemy at work out here in the world, also tries with
>extra effort to gain footholds in the church.  You must maintain your
>integrity and focus on Him first, and other things second, and then
>also teach and gently remind those in the church the same.
>Lead them continually back to where they should be, as He leads
>you from within.

Beyond hope.

>Don't be prideful in your new faith.  Remember from where you cane
>and help others to come to forgiveness in Jesus in the like manner He
>forgave you, by having heard this message by spreading it and by
>teaching people about Him.

Off Topic.

>We need Him in our lives.  First, and out front.  He is our Redeemer.
>Our Salvation.  Our Guide.  Our Teacher.  And Je is also our Friend.

Whacko.

>Never let the enemy's lies convince you ahead of the truth.  Remain
>in Him, focused, and teaching and rebuking, being ready to also be
>rebuked should you open your mouth and teach something falsely in
>ignorance.  He gently guides all of us down the straight and narrow
>path.  Because He loves us.

Goofball.

>Love you,
>Rick C. Hodgin

Seriously deluded.

>PS - For those who hear His call and know what I'm talking about,
>welcome.  The Kingdom of God awaits you.  May you serve Him
>always in honest integrity, with a right mind and focus on leading
>more people to His Son Jesus, so they can also be forgiven and
>be saved.  Always done in much peace and much love.


Loonball.


-- 
He continues to assert that 2 plus 2 equals 4, despite being repeatedly
told otherwise.

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#103735

On 12/02/2017 9:01 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> PS - For those who hear His call and know what I'm talking about,
> welcome.  The Kingdom of God awaits you.  May you serve Him
> always in honest integrity, with a right mind and focus on leading
> more people to His Son Jesus, so they can also be forgiven and
> be saved.  Always done in much peace and much love.

Does your church if not chapel teach C programming? ;)


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#103768

On 2/12/2017 8:33 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 12/02/2017 9:01 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>> PS - For those who hear His call and know what I'm talking about,
>> welcome.  The Kingdom of God awaits you.  May you serve Him
>> always in honest integrity, with a right mind and focus on leading
>> more people to His Son Jesus, so they can also be forgiven and
>> be saved.  Always done in much peace and much love.
>
> Does your church if not chapel teach C programming? ;)
>
>

lol. Imagine going to a church, and seeing the following construct up on 
a wall:

void main { ... }

represented as a deceptive manifestation of the devil itself trying to 
lead programmers astray, down to the dark side. Sometimes, the devil 
reminds me of the Cruel Puppet in Zork:

https://www.thezorklibrary.com/history/cruel_puppet.html
________________________________
CRUEL PUPPET

Few creatures are more despised than the cruel puppet, one which uses 
its power not for good, evil or profit, but simply to hurt people's 
feelings. Staunch monarchs have been reduced to tears by these merciless 
shapeshifters; for it attacks by twisting itself into unflattering 
caricatures of its opponents, accompanied by jeers, rude noises and 
shocking accusations--which include the recital of nightly personal 
habits in excruciating detail, accusing its adversary's mother of 
shocking improprieties, reminding of weight gain, etc. They have also 
been known to practice existential put downs. "You're so ugly you're 
probably the creation of an unseen master who is controlling and shaping 
the world around you. Nothing is real and nothing you do will have any 
lasting effect on those around you. Welcome to the dark night of your 
soul" is but one example. More often, however, they just insult your 
knees. Insulting the cruel puppet in return is futile, for it feeds off 
of them. Straining to ignore these verbal attacks is the only known 
defense.

Residents of Gurth City were warned during the mid-tenth century to keep 
away from the Forest of Youth, as it was known home to cruel puppets.

During the Great Monster Uprising of the Second Age of Magic, cruel 
puppets were reported in the following regions: The abandoned Casino of 
Port Foozle, The Southern Wastes, The Coast Road near Borphee, Pheebor, 
Forest of Youth, Gurth Woodland Trail, the Lost Castle of Y'Syska, Crab 
Island, Egreth Castle, The Glass Maze, Bozbarland, Largoneth Castle, and 
the G.U.E. Tech Training Grounds in the Ethereal Plane of Atrii. Many 
perched in trees and other high and covert corners, raining handfuls of 
exploding chestnuts down upon luckless adventurers.
________________________________

;^)

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#103769

On Sunday, February 12, 2017 at 10:51:45 PM UTC-5, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 2/12/2017 8:33 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> > On 12/02/2017 9:01 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> >> PS - For those who hear His call and know what I'm talking about,
> >> welcome.  The Kingdom of God awaits you.  May you serve Him
> >> always in honest integrity, with a right mind and focus on leading
> >> more people to His Son Jesus, so they can also be forgiven and
> >> be saved.  Always done in much peace and much love.
> >
> > Does your church if not chapel teach C programming? ;)
> 
> lol. Imagine going to a church, and seeing the following construct up on 
> a wall:
> 
> void main { ... }

Of course that's evil.  Just ask any of the regular C gurus here.
main() should always return int, and if you are pursing the truth
you should then you must ask yourself which truth?  The C Standard?
Or your compiler's abilities (as many compile void main(void) just
fine).

In any event, I offer to teach classes on programming regularly, and
have for years.  I haven't had many takers.  And most of them were
more interested in learning Word and Excel than anything related to
programming, let alone C programming.

Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#103819

On 2/12/2017 11:51 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> On Sunday, February 12, 2017 at 10:51:45 PM UTC-5, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>> On 2/12/2017 8:33 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>>> On 12/02/2017 9:01 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
[...]
>>> Does your church if not chapel teach C programming? ;)
>>
>> lol. Imagine going to a church, and seeing the following construct up on
>> a wall:
>>
>> void main { ... }
>
> Of course that's evil.  Just ask any of the regular C gurus here.
> main() should always return int, and if you are pursing the truth
> you should then you must ask yourself which truth?  The C Standard?
> Or your compiler's abilities (as many compile void main(void) just
> fine).

Yes, "which truth".  Why is yours *the* truth?

My "truth" is that I work in the POSIX world, so things like 
open/read/write/close are not "evil".  I also work in both the Windows and 
*nix worlds, so there are times I need O/S-specific code, and things like 
"read a single keystroke, without echo" are allowed.

However, I also don't ask questions on how to do these things here.

> In any event, I offer to teach classes on programming regularly, and
> have for years.  I haven't had many takers.  And most of them were
> more interested in learning Word and Excel than anything related to
> programming, let alone C programming.

-- 
Kenneth Brody

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#103822

On Monday, February 13, 2017 at 12:37:33 PM UTC-5, Ken Brody wrote:
> On 2/12/2017 11:51 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> > On Sunday, February 12, 2017 at 10:51:45 PM UTC-5, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >> On 2/12/2017 8:33 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> >>> On 12/02/2017 9:01 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> [...]
> >>> Does your church if not chapel teach C programming? ;)
> >>
> >> lol. Imagine going to a church, and seeing the following construct up on
> >> a wall:
> >>
> >> void main { ... }
> >
> > Of course that's evil.  Just ask any of the regular C gurus here.
> > main() should always return int, and if you are pursing the truth
> > you should then you must ask yourself which truth?  The C Standard?
> > Or your compiler's abilities (as many compile void main(void) just
> > fine).
> 
> Yes, "which truth".  Why is yours *the* truth?

Well, the truth is fundamental.  It always only speaks with one voice.
"How old are you?"  There is only one correct answer that questions,
but many false answers.

I profess that Jesus is truth, which is also what He professed (in
John 14:6).  And I ask you to verify if what I say is true or not.
Do not take my word for it.  Investigate the matter for yourself,
because if what I teach you is actually true, then where you wind
up in eternity (in the paradise of Heaven, or the flames of Hell),
depends on what you did with Jesus Christ (receive Him as Savior
and Lord where He takes your sin away from you, or reject Him as
unneeded where your sin remains on you.  In one case He is judged
for your sin, in the other case you are judged.  And whereas He
also descended to Hell to pay the price for sin, He came back.
You will not.  Nobody else will.  Not even the angels or even the
greatest angel Lucifer).

We all need Jesus Christ.  That is the claim.  I give you my
personal testimony and witness that it is true, but the needs of
pursuing the truth must demand that you pursue it on your own.
You cannot take my word for it because I could be lying, or in
some way trying to deceive you.  You must investigate for yourself
if what I say is true or not.  There's a lot riding on it.

Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#103853

On 2/13/2017 9:37 AM, Ken Brody wrote:
> On 2/12/2017 11:51 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>> On Sunday, February 12, 2017 at 10:51:45 PM UTC-5, Chris M. Thomasson
>> wrote:
>>> On 2/12/2017 8:33 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>>>> On 12/02/2017 9:01 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> [...]
>>>> Does your church if not chapel teach C programming? ;)
>>>
>>> lol. Imagine going to a church, and seeing the following construct up on
>>> a wall:
>>>
>>> void main { ... }
>>
>> Of course that's evil.  Just ask any of the regular C gurus here.
>> main() should always return int, and if you are pursing the truth
>> you should then you must ask yourself which truth?  The C Standard?
>> Or your compiler's abilities (as many compile void main(void) just
>> fine).
>
> Yes, "which truth".  Why is yours *the* truth?

One upon a time, I was told that Java is going to be the one true 
discipline. Heck, it has GUI?


>
> My "truth" is that I work in the POSIX world, so things like
> open/read/write/close are not "evil".  I also work in both the Windows
> and *nix worlds, so there are times I need O/S-specific code, and things
> like "read a single keystroke, without echo" are allowed.
>
> However, I also don't ask questions on how to do these things here.
>
>> In any event, I offer to teach classes on programming regularly, and
>> have for years.  I haven't had many takers.  And most of them were
>> more interested in learning Word and Excel than anything related to
>> programming, let alone C programming.
>

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#104053

I feel like every so often I should point out that every one of Rick's
horribly off-topic religious posts generates dozens and dozens of
responses.  IGNORING THEM would result in many fewer off-topic posts
here.  Yeah, in posting this I'm adding to the noise.  But I'm sort of
hoping someone reading this might let his next religious post pass
without comment... 

I say this as a committed Christian who is embarrassed by him.
-- 
"Erwin, have you seen the cat?" -- Mrs. Shrödinger

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#104056

On 17/02/17 02:27, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
> I feel like every so often I should point out that every one of Rick's
> horribly off-topic religious posts generates dozens and dozens of
> responses.  IGNORING THEM would result in many fewer off-topic posts
> here.  Yeah, in posting this I'm adding to the noise.  But I'm sort of
> hoping someone reading this might let his next religious post pass
> without comment...
>
> I say this as a committed Christian who is embarrassed by him.

As another such, I would ask that people simply add him to their 
kill-files for a year or so, in the hope that he will eventually realise 
that his abuse of the group is not acceptable and has bad consequences 
for him. Then, when the year expires, give him another chance. Lather, 
rinse, repeat...

-- 
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

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#108996

On Friday, February 17, 2017 at 11:27:56 AM UTC+9, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
> I feel like every so often I should point out that every one of Rick's
> horribly off-topic religious posts generates dozens and dozens of
> responses.  IGNORING THEM would result in many fewer off-topic posts
> here.  Yeah, in posting this I'm adding to the noise.  But I'm sort of
> hoping someone reading this might let his next religious post pass
> without comment... 
> 
> I say this as a committed Christian who is embarrassed by him.
> -- 
> "Erwin, have you seen the cat?" -- Mrs. Shrödinger

I'm not embarrassed by him, just hoping he doesn't burn himself out 
or paint himself into a corner.

Preaching is good. But even Jesus Himself didn't spend all his 
time coming down on the scribes, Pharisees, lawyers, hypocrites, 
etc. And he used a lot of approaches we currently describe as 
"lateral thinking" in much of his preaching.

And testifying is good for the soul, as long as we are careful 
about context (thinking about pearls in a context where they 
will be confused with cattle feed, etc.).

--
Joel Rees
http://reiisi.blogspot.com

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#103824

I told a Muslim man to go to church and contact you but he didn't like 
the idea.  Now how can I convince him that people like you are better 
for Muslims in general because Christians give them refuge, food, drinks 
and clothes when they arrive.

David Livingstone was pretty good at converting people!!!

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Livingstone>



On 12/02/2017 01:01 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> That still small voice you hear on the inside, the one drawing you from
> within, reminding you of the things you should be doing, and pointing
> out the things you shouldn't be doing ... listen to it.  That voice was
> put there by God to guide you into all rightness, and away from
> everything wrong, hurtful and harmful (to yourself and others).
>
> Even though you've done hurtful and harmful things to others, God
> still wants to forgive you.  He still loves you.  He still wants to turn
> your life around and give it to Him, to follow after the works of
> truth and light, rather than pursuits of self-interest in darkness.
>
> We all need each other.  We need to help each other become the
> full and rich people we can be.  And we need God to help us overcome
> those things we cannot overcome on our own.
>
> Go to church each week.  Learn about Jesus Christ.  Learn what it
> means to seek after and pursue that still, small voice on the inside,
> rather than continuing to drown it out with other things, ignoring
> it hoping it will go away.
>
> This is your time to step forward in faith, to take heed of His inner call,
> to answer that call and pursue Him to that end He has for you, even
> forgiveness of your sin, and eternal life in Heaven in a body like
> the angels, beautiful, young, and strong.
>
> A life you never imagined awaits you in pursuit of Him.  He redeems
> you and restores you to life (spiritual life), such that new things
> abound within your new man existence.  It is absolutely beyond that
> which you could imagine, because it's all completely new, through
> the new man nature, and the new life after the spirit.
>
> God loves you, and will forgive you.  Just ask Him to forgive you
> from where you are.  He does the rest.  And then make the real
> conscious choice to listen to that inner voice, to go to church, to say
> no to sin in your life, and yes to holiness and pursuits by which
> you help others.
>
> We have weaknesses as individuals, but we are strong together.  Go
> to church and be part of that community of strength, remembering
> that the same enemy at work out here in the world, also tries with
> extra effort to gain footholds in the church.  You must maintain your
> integrity and focus on Him first, and other things second, and then
> also teach and gently remind those in the church the same.
> Lead them continually back to where they should be, as He leads
> you from within.
>
> Don't be prideful in your new faith.  Remember from where you cane
> and help others to come to forgiveness in Jesus in the like manner He
> forgave you, by having heard this message by spreading it and by
> teaching people about Him.
>
> We need Him in our lives.  First, and out front.  He is our Redeemer.
> Our Salvation.  Our Guide.  Our Teacher.  And Je is also our Friend.
>
> Never let the enemy's lies convince you ahead of the truth.  Remain
> in Him, focused, and teaching and rebuking, being ready to also be
> rebuked should you open your mouth and teach something falsely in
> ignorance.  He gently guides all of us down the straight and narrow
> path.  Because He loves us.
>
> Love you,
> Rick C. Hodgin
>
> PS - For those who hear His call and know what I'm talking about,
> welcome.  The Kingdom of God awaits you.  May you serve Him
> always in honest integrity, with a right mind and focus on leading
> more people to His Son Jesus, so they can also be forgiven and
> be saved.  Always done in much peace and much love.

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#103838

On Monday, February 13, 2017 at 1:07:34 PM UTC-5, Real Troll wrote:
> I told a Muslim man to go to church and contact you but he didn't like 
> the idea.  Now how can I convince him that people like you are better 
> for Muslims in general because Christians give them refuge, food, drinks 
> and clothes when they arrive.
> 
> David Livingstone was pretty good at converting people!!!
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Livingstone>

I won't be able to convert anybody.  That's not my job.  I can only
teach people about Jesus, who He is, about sin, and about why we
need to be forgiven for sin.  It is God who draws those who will be
saved from the inside.  He draws them from within to come to Jesus,
repent of their sin, ask forgiveness, and be saved.

This message is only for those people who are being saved.  It is
not for everyone.  But, because I don't know who it is who will be
saved, the offer is extended to all.

> On 12/02/2017 01:01 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> > That still small voice you hear on the inside, the one drawing you from
> > within, reminding you of the things you should be doing, and pointing
> > out the things you shouldn't be doing ... listen to it.  That voice was
> > put there by God to guide you into all rightness, and away from
> > everything wrong, hurtful and harmful (to yourself and others).
> >
> > Even though you've done hurtful and harmful things to others, God
> > still wants to forgive you.  He still loves you.  He still wants to turn
> > your life around and give it to Him, to follow after the works of
> > truth and light, rather than pursuits of self-interest in darkness.
> >
> > We all need each other.  We need to help each other become the
> > full and rich people we can be.  And we need God to help us overcome
> > those things we cannot overcome on our own.
> >
> > Go to church each week.  Learn about Jesus Christ.  Learn what it
> > means to seek after and pursue that still, small voice on the inside,
> > rather than continuing to drown it out with other things, ignoring
> > it hoping it will go away.
> >
> > This is your time to step forward in faith, to take heed of His inner call,
> > to answer that call and pursue Him to that end He has for you, even
> > forgiveness of your sin, and eternal life in Heaven in a body like
> > the angels, beautiful, young, and strong.
> >
> > A life you never imagined awaits you in pursuit of Him.  He redeems
> > you and restores you to life (spiritual life), such that new things
> > abound within your new man existence.  It is absolutely beyond that
> > which you could imagine, because it's all completely new, through
> > the new man nature, and the new life after the spirit.
> >
> > God loves you, and will forgive you.  Just ask Him to forgive you
> > from where you are.  He does the rest.  And then make the real
> > conscious choice to listen to that inner voice, to go to church, to say
> > no to sin in your life, and yes to holiness and pursuits by which
> > you help others.
> >
> > We have weaknesses as individuals, but we are strong together.  Go
> > to church and be part of that community of strength, remembering
> > that the same enemy at work out here in the world, also tries with
> > extra effort to gain footholds in the church.  You must maintain your
> > integrity and focus on Him first, and other things second, and then
> > also teach and gently remind those in the church the same.
> > Lead them continually back to where they should be, as He leads
> > you from within.
> >
> > Don't be prideful in your new faith.  Remember from where you cane
> > and help others to come to forgiveness in Jesus in the like manner He
> > forgave you, by having heard this message by spreading it and by
> > teaching people about Him.
> >
> > We need Him in our lives.  First, and out front.  He is our Redeemer.
> > Our Salvation.  Our Guide.  Our Teacher.  And Je is also our Friend.
> >
> > Never let the enemy's lies convince you ahead of the truth.  Remain
> > in Him, focused, and teaching and rebuking, being ready to also be
> > rebuked should you open your mouth and teach something falsely in
> > ignorance.  He gently guides all of us down the straight and narrow
> > path.  Because He loves us.
> >
> > Love you,
> > Rick C. Hodgin
> >
> > PS - For those who hear His call and know what I'm talking about,
> > welcome.  The Kingdom of God awaits you.  May you serve Him
> > always in honest integrity, with a right mind and focus on leading
> > more people to His Son Jesus, so they can also be forgiven and
> > be saved.  Always done in much peace and much love.

Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#103842

W dniu poniedziałek, 13 lutego 2017 19:07:34 UTC+1 użytkownik Real Troll napisał:
> (something weird)

rick is proffessional bulk spamer - i mean he spams not only this group but spams quite profesionally in massive/bulk way (just like ramine) - just spams massively whole list of groups with copies  - if someone makes this 
way offtopics in bulk massive way it means he 
is just professional bulk spemmer, this means something

i previously thinked he offtops personally
but this is false he is full professional spammer - masive spam kind - it is sad and very bad -  realize that - as a massive
automatic spamer he should be probably 
treated same as ramine.. cut of totally and dont waste time on automatic trash that 
mimicks normal 'carefull' messages (the difference is as normal users wrote normal carefull/individual messages both ramine 
and hodgin idiot make this more like business
adversitments (in an area of mental trash)

czang is halfway he spams also many groups 
in halfinbdividual way, it means he dont much care for discussion also liek just to flod
much more and quickly forgets tresh he floded

it is sad, but as rick proves he is massive spamer treat him as a massive business spamer
(just like ramine - they are like advertisments break in tv - waste people time for attention of product you dont really want to see)

very very bad

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#103851

The flames and torment of Hell NEVER cease, fir.  That is why I post
about Jesus. He is THE ONLY way to salvation ... and He offers it all
completely free for just the asking.

It's important.  It's more important than other things.  All of them.

Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#103891

On 14/02/2017 2:15 AM, Real Troll wrote:
>
> I told a Muslim man to go to church and contact you but he didn't like
> the idea.  Now how can I convince him that people like you are better
> for Muslims in general because Christians give them refuge, food, drinks
> and clothes when they arrive.

I thought all religions on this planet and in this world originated from 
Middle-East. :)

-- 
   @~@   Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!!
  / v \  Simplicity is Beauty!
/( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you!
   ^ ^   (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10)  Linux 2.6.39.3
不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA):
http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_pubsvc/page_socsecu/sub_addressesa

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#103897

On Tuesday, February 14, 2017 at 12:01:40 PM UTC-5, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> I thought all religions on this planet and in this world originated from 
> Middle-East. :)

Investigate it.  Pursue the real and true answer until it yields.  Do not
let assumption or preconception enter in.  Seek out the full and whole
truth, because then you will know to the best of your ability.

Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#103902

On Tuesday, February 14, 2017 at 12:30:29 PM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 14, 2017 at 12:01:40 PM UTC-5, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> > I thought all religions on this planet and in this world originated from 
> > Middle-East. :)
> 
> Investigate it.  Pursue the real and true answer until it yields.  Do not
> let assumption or preconception enter in.  Seek out the full and whole
> truth, because then you will know to the best of your ability.

Here's a cue.  It shows the true Christian heart, and the attitude of God
even to sinners in this world:

    http://biblehub.com/kjv/1_timothy/2.htm

    1 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers,
      intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
    2 For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a
      quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
    3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
    4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge
      of the truth.
    5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man
      Christ Jesus;
    6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

Prayers for people.  Prayers for our leaders.  Prayers for peace.
Prayers that all people come to a knowledge of the truth, and are saved.

The Christians heart points people to the One who can save them, who
desires to save them, and who sends them messages continually to guide
them to that salvation.

What is it that prevents people from coming to Jesus Christ?  It is
their love of sin, their desire to walk in darkness rather than light.

Sin is the enemy.  Jesus is the cure.  If you'd like to be saved and
live on in eternity, ask Jesus to save you.  He will, if you are truly
and completely sincere in your asking (if you know you are a sinner,
and you want to repent, and you want to be forgiven for those things
you've done, He will know this, and all who come to Him sincerely
repenting and asking forgiveness are saved ... He turns none away who
truly come to Him with a sincere heart).

Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#103921

Yes "Sin is the enemy" what is "sin"
is written in the 10 Commandments
and Bible prescriptions
laws good, for people.
There 2 strategy enemy follow
1) make people blind in some
   way, time spent 
   see and think what is false 
   and not see and think what is true
   and really important.
2) Build one pyramidal society
   where in the top there are people
   more blind than others
   

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#103927

On Wednesday, February 15, 2017 at 3:42:56 AM UTC-5, asetof...@gmail.com wrote:
> Yes "Sin is the enemy" what is "sin"
> is written in the 10 Commandments
> and Bible prescriptions
> laws good, for people.
> There 2 strategy enemy follow
> 1) make people blind in some
>    way, time spent 
>    see and think what is false 
>    and not see and think what is true
>    and really important.

There are two aspects of sin.  The first is the law, which points out
where we fall short of God's commands to us (not just the Ten
Commandments, but there are about 1600 laws in the law of Moses).

But moreso for people living post-Pentecost (after Jesus' death,
burial, and resurrection, and the giving of His Holy Spirit to men),
it is a higher standard:

    http://biblehub.com/kjv/james/4-17.htm
    17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to
       him it is sin.

In context, this refers to conviction by the Holy Spirit, about
reaching out to people to help them as you are prompted from within.

> 2) Build one pyramidal society
>    where in the top there are people
>    more blind than others

This is a very bad aspect of Satan's teaching.  It places something
like the unlawful control of a society under the color of "religion"
so that the people's general fear of religion "keeps them in line."

It's not mean to be like that, and that type of government system has
no basis in Christianity or Judaism.

For each person, it is about their relationship with Jesus.  Either
a person has none, or they have one they presume which is not proper,
or they have one they presume which is proper.

We will know which one each person has by their overall behavior,
their observable fruit of their thoughts, decisions, actions, etc.
The person serving the Lord in this world will not be interested in
power, prestige, ruling over people, but considers himself/herself
a servant among the other believers, each put there by God to help
one another in all areas of life (coming to faith as by initial
teaching, reaffirming that faith as by mutually guiding each other
away from Satan's misleadings and back to the true path of God, and
in real, physical, worldly needs such as meeting the basic needs of
our bodies, our families, etc.).

-----
Christianity is about Jesus Christ.  It's about coming to the end
of yourself, of recognizing you are a sinner and you have no ability
to redeem yourself.  Of recognizing sin is wrong, repenting of sin,
and coming to Jesus and asking forgiveness of sin.

When a person does this their sins are literally transferred away
from them in God's eternal sight, so that we have no sin any
longer in His sight.  We are then alive again spiritually (born
again), which gives us a new understanding of things.

Jesus is our King.  He is the one we seek after.  We are not at all
interested in ruling over other people.  We lock arms with them,
shoulder to shoulder, heart to heart, and move forward to teach
others about Jesus Christ.

The one you refer to who tries to dominate others, or put them under
some type of religious constraint so that unless they do this, that,
or the other thing (as by religious rote) they are not doing as they
should, that teachings comes from Satan.  Satan seeks to keep us
bound up in all manner of falseness, but it is God Himself who leads
us out of that falseness and into all truth, even to His Son Jesus,
who is Christ (Messiah, Savior).

Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin

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