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  Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 20:44 -0700
    Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 20:55 -0700
      Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 04:53 -0700
        Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 08:18 -0700
          Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 09:53 -0700
            Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 11:38 -0700
              Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 12:15 -0700
                Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 12:27 -0700
                  Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 12:35 -0700
                    Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 12:51 -0700
                      Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 13:01 -0700
                        Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 13:39 -0700
                          Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 13:49 -0700
                            Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 13:57 -0700
                              Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-05-01 14:33 -0700
                                Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 15:59 -0700
                            Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 14:09 -0700
                              Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 14:15 -0700
                                Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 15:42 -0700
    Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 21:53 +0800
      Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 07:21 -0700
        Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 08:24 -0700
        Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 23:34 +0800
          Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 09:55 -0700
            Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 11:39 -0700
              Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 12:17 -0700
                Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 12:28 -0700
            [OT] Preaching machines in C? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 22:48 +0800
              Re: [OT] Preaching machines in C? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 08:43 -0700
                Re: [OT] Preaching machines in C? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 00:08 +0800
                  Re: [OT] Preaching machines in C? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 09:19 -0700
                    Re: [OT] Preaching machines in C? Mark Storkamp <mstorkamp@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-03 13:58 -0500
                      Re: [OT] Preaching machines in C? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 12:11 -0700
              Re: [OT] Preaching machines in C? Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-03 09:48 -0700
                Re: [OT] Preaching machines in C? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 01:12 +0800
          Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Jens Stuckelberger <Jens_Stuckelberger@nowhere.net> - 2017-05-01 17:13 +0000
            Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 10:46 -0700
          Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 11:07 -0700
            Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 11:23 -0700
              Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 11:25 -0700
                Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 11:55 -0700
                  Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 12:19 -0700
                    Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 12:43 -0700
                      Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 12:48 -0700
                        Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-05-01 13:36 -0700
                          Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 13:43 -0700
                          Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 13:45 -0700
                            Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 14:04 -0700
                            Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-05-08 13:41 -0700
                              Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-08 14:12 -0700
              Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 11:54 -0700
      Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 08:19 -0700
        Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-05-01 08:32 -0700
        Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 23:34 +0800
          Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 11:07 -0700
            Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-05-01 13:27 -0700
              Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 13:41 -0700
                Re: Why is Jesus the only way? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 15:15 -0700
                  Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 16:01 -0700
                Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 15:54 -0700
                  Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 16:39 -0700
                  Re: Why is Jesus the only way? David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 12:23 -0700
                    Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-05-03 21:36 +0100
                      Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 14:35 -0700
                    Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-05-04 01:07 +0100
                      Re: Why is Jesus the only way? David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 18:01 -0700
                        Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 18:26 -0700
                          Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 18:54 -0700
                            Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 22:48 -0700
                              Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 04:36 -0700
                                Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-04 11:10 -0700
                                  Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 11:18 -0700
                                    Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-04 19:42 -0700
                              Rape in the Bible [was: Re: Why is Jesus the only way?] Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 16:08 +0300
                                Re: Rape in the Bible [was: Re: Why is Jesus the only way?] BruceS <bruces42@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-07 08:54 -0600
                                  Re: Rape in the Bible [was: Re: Why is Jesus the only way?] "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 10:06 -0700
                                    Re: Rape in the Bible [was: Re: Why is Jesus the only way?] Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 11:34 -0700
                                  Re: Rape in the Bible [was: Re: Why is Jesus the only way?] "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 10:12 -0700
                                    Re: Rape in the Bible [was: Re: Why is Jesus the only way?] Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 11:27 -0700
                                  Re: Rape in the Bible [was: Re: Why is Jesus the only way?] Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 11:53 -0700
                                  Re: Rape in the Bible [was: Re: Why is Jesus the only way?] joel.rees@gmail.com - 2017-05-07 18:35 -0700
                                    Re: Rape in the Bible [was: Re: Why is Jesus the only way?] Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2017-05-08 02:07 +0000
                                      Re: Rape in the Bible [was: Re: Why is Jesus the only way?] "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 19:36 -0700
                                        Re: Rape in the Bible [was: Re: Why is Jesus the only way?] Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 20:02 -0700
                                      Re: Rape in the Bible [was: Re: Why is Jesus the only way?] Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 20:01 -0700
                                    Re: Rape in the Bible [was: Re: Why is Jesus the only way?] Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 20:01 -0700
                                Re: Rape in the Bible [was: Re: Why is Jesus the only way?] Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 11:44 -0700
                                  Re: Rape in the Bible [was: Re: Why is Jesus the only way?] Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 22:35 +0300
                                    Re: Rape in the Bible [was: Re: Why is Jesus the only way?] Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-09 13:00 -0700
                          Re: Why is Jesus the only way? joel.rees@gmail.com - 2017-05-03 22:08 -0700
                            Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 04:16 -0700
                          Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 22:44 -0700
                            Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 04:21 -0700
                              Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-04 11:12 -0700
                        Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-05-03 18:37 -0700
                        Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 22:42 -0700
                        Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-05-04 09:33 +0100
                          Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 04:53 -0700
                            Re: Why is Jesus the only way? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-04 15:08 +0200
                              Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-05-04 14:51 +0100
                                Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 09:18 -0700
                              Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-04 11:18 -0700
                          Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-05-04 12:13 -0700
                            Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 12:27 -0700
                              Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-05-04 13:02 -0700
                                Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 13:20 -0700
                                  Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-04 19:48 -0700
                              Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-04 19:47 -0700
                            Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-04 19:44 -0700
                              Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-05-07 19:55 -0700
                                Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 20:09 -0700
                                  Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 20:37 -0700
                                Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 20:36 -0700
                                  Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-05-07 22:14 -0700
                                    Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 03:59 -0700
                                      Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-08 11:10 -0700
                                    Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-08 11:07 -0700
    Why is Jesus the only way? cpascoshi@gmail.com - 2017-05-04 09:45 -0700
    Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 13:55 -0700
    Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "max.muster@picca.de" <dominic.ernst91@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 02:42 -0700
      Re: Why is Jesus the only way? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 03:27 -0700
      Re: Why is Jesus the only way? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-11 09:12 -0700

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#108871

Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> We are not your clones. ;)

All people with sin will perish in Hell because of their sin.  They are guilty
before a holy God.  Period.  Across the board.

The good news is Jesus came to save us from that end.  All who come
to Him are forgiven, and gain eternal life.  His arrival was announced
by a host of Heavenly Hosts who sang and lit up the night sky with the
good news.

Not clones.  The "redeemed" from sin and death, each with their own
special unique and distinct attributes and interests, added to God's
Kingdom.

God wants us to thrive in His Kingdom.  He does not want to Judge us.
It's why He sent His Son ... to make a way out for us.  And only by
what Jesus did, His finished work at the cross, are we forgiven.

It's free to all who will receive.

Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#108879

On 5/1/17, 7:21 AM, in article
2df0dcb7-5c69-4298-808f-922aaf65f76e@googlegroups.com, "Rick C. Hodgin"
<rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote:

> Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>> We are not your clones. ;)
> 
> All people with sin will perish in Hell because of their sin.  They are guilty
> before a holy God.  Period.  Across the board.

If so he is very immoral... punishing people for an eternity based on 100
years or so of sin. Heck, and that sin need not even be harming anyone if I
understand you correctly, it can just be not accepting one particular view
as you harm nobody.

If a deity really is that petty and immoral I most certainly would not want
to worship him! It is part of why I think the Bible is better understood as
having been written by an unreliable narrator and his naïve followers.
Simple makes more sense that way, at least to me.

> The good news is Jesus came to save us from that end.  All who come
> to Him are forgiven, and gain eternal life.

So to escape an eternity of torture you must go to him... in what way even?
Just saying you accept him. And if you don't, you are tortured for...
forever.

That is a description of an evil deity.

> His arrival was announced by a host of Heavenly Hosts who sang and lit up the
> night sky with the good news.
> 
> Not clones.  The "redeemed" from sin and death, each with their own special
> unique and distinct attributes and interests, added to God's Kingdom.
> 
> God wants us to thrive in His Kingdom.

And he threatens us with eternal torture if we do not speak highly of him.
That is a description of an evil deity.

> He does not want to Judge us. It's why He sent His Son ... to make a way out
> for us.  

A "way out" of a maze of his own creation. That is evil. Why would anyone
want to worship a deity who played such evil games?

> And only by what Jesus did, His finished work at the cross, are we
> forgiven.
> 
> It's free to all who will receive.

You are free to find a way out of this evil maze he created so he will not
torture you. 

That is nasty.

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use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#108882

On 1/5/2017 10:21 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> All people with sin will perish in Hell because of their sin.  They are guilty
> before a holy God.  Period.  Across the board. ...

Quite amazed at your ability to write stories and lessons. Are you a 
teacher?

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#108895

On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 11:34:47 AM UTC-4, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 1/5/2017 10:21 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> > All people with sin will perish in Hell because of their sin.  They are guilty
> > before a holy God.  Period.  Across the board. ...
> 
> Quite amazed at your ability to write stories and lessons. Are you a 
> teacher?

I do not write stories.  I teach people those things taught in the
Bible, as are applied to the people I encounter in my life.

All Christians are teachers:

    http://biblehub.com/kjv/matthew/28.htm
    18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given
       unto me in heaven and in earth.
    19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the
       name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
    20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded
       you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the
       world. Amen.

Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#108922

On 5/1/17, 9:55 AM, in article
3ffc26f5-9b5c-43fc-9e55-62a14d055d87@googlegroups.com, "Rick C. Hodgin"
<rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 11:34:47 AM UTC-4, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>> On 1/5/2017 10:21 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>> All people with sin will perish in Hell because of their sin.  They are
>>> guilty
>>> before a holy God.  Period.  Across the board. ...
>> 
>> Quite amazed at your ability to write stories and lessons. Are you a
>> teacher?
> 
> I do not write stories.

Of course you do. You just posted one to me that was, basically, this:
    -----
    Some of it literally cannot be reconciled to the natural
    understanding only. It seems an impossible contradiction that "a
    loving Invisible Green Dragon" could instruct The Monkey Palace to
    do some of the things She did.

    Easy Cheese uses that flesh-based understanding to trap people into
    man's reasoning whereby it's easy to conclude Invisible Green Dragon
    is something other than She is.  Easy Cheese uses our fallen state
    against us because we are weak in our flesh, defeated, in sin, able
    to be deceived.

    But when we pursue the truth of the matter, and want to know how it
    is that Invisible Green Dragon, who is Love, could do such a thing,
    command such a thing, teach such a thing, etc., and we press in
    wanting to honestly know the truth of that issue ... then She will
    draw us to the place we need to go to receive that which we need to
    be able to understand it.

    Everything comes back to the three-fold nature of man:  crystal
    spiritual energy, body, ethereal penguin essence. We are ethereal
    penguin essenceually dead, and some things of Invisible Green Dragon
    can only be understood ethereal penguin essenceually.  It is from
    within that new nature Abraham Lincoln makes possible for us to have
    by taking our sin away that we can then understand those aspects of
    Invisible Green Dragon.

    Yet other aspects of Invisible Green Dragon our flesh can
    understand.  We have a legal system. If you break the law you pay
    the price in the legal system. With Invisible Green Dragon and
    Invisible Green Dragon's laws there is a standard of perfection. So,
    every violation of the law demands one punishment for an eternal
    being bent on disobeying Invisible Green Dragon (who is truth, which
    another way to say that is to say that every violation of the law
    demands one punishment for an eternal being bent on not following
    what is right and true and proper, but instead is embracing their
    own ideas about what is right, even though they do not have the
    ability to understand the full depths of the creation of the
    universe):  The inside of a mule's anus.  A place of eternal
    isolation with a torment that occupies a crystal spiritual energy
    for all time, so they and their false-seeking ideas will never
    influence creation again.

    It's similar to what we would do with a system we created.  If we
    made a piece of hardware or designed some software to behave a
    certain way, we would instruct each part (by its design) on how to
    be, what to do, and what not to do.  So long as everything obeyed
    its instruction, we would keep the circuit or software in tact.  But
    if we discovered piece X or piece Y or algorithm Z was doing
    something other than we instructed, we would have no qualms with
    taking that errant component out, and possibly replacing it with
    another.

    This is what Invisible Green Dragon has done with Her creation, but
    on the scale of living peoples, rather than simple hardware or
    software.

    And to ascribe traits to Invisible Green Dragon that are
    inappropriate as the guardian of Her creation is to rise up against
    Him concluding that you, oh created one, know better than She does
    how Her universe should operate.

    Our best teams of PhD scientists are discovering things with the LHC
    today that confound the standard model.  Our biggest brains do not
    yet know what is going on in this universe, and yet we think we have
    a handle on things in a way to instruct Invisible Green Dragon on
    how things should be?  No, sir.  We are the students, She is the
    master.

    Everything Invisible Green Dragon has done is in perfect
    understanding, perfect Love, perfect guidance, and perfect focus for
    a maximum return on that which She has created and given free will
    to:  mankind.

    Every person who seeks the truth will find it and be saved.  The
    rest will perish in their sin because they remain in rebellion
    against truth, against Him, against everything that is right and
    holy, and they will not be a part of Her eternal kingdom for those
    reasons.

    It's all there, Rick ... if you want to seek to understand it. But
    if you want to gloss over it, and replace real research and
    truth-seeking endeavors with summary conclusions based on your own
    personal perceptions about the way things are ... then there is an
    enemy of Invisible Green Dragon who will cater to your personal
    willingness- to-believe systems.  You can go to your grave believing
    whatever you want to about all of the things which matter to you.

    But if you will simply set your sights on knowing the truth, and
    asking within your own inner-most man questions like:  "If I am
    wrong, then I want to know. If there is another way, then I want to
    know.  If Abraham Lincoln is real, then I want to know," and if you
    really do mean it and aren't just parroting those words in some kind
    of mocking response to this message, then Invisible Green Dragon
    will know your heart and She will make it possible for you to come
    to the truth.

    She honors our free will.  She knows who are Her, and who will be
    Her. And She is already working in the lives of everyone who will
    come to believe, such that when their day comes they will be where
    they need to be, hearing what they need to hear, so that they too
    can be saved.

    Invisible Green Dragon really is in control.  Easy Cheese has been
    defeated.  The many lies which exist in this world are overcome by
    seeking the truth in all cases (that relate to our pursuit of
    salvation).  And Abraham Lincoln Christ has made it possible, and
    Invisible Green Dragon Himself guides us to each place we need to be
    to come to saving faith.

    Good luck on your endeavor, Rick.  Abraham Lincoln Himself will lead
    you to truth ... if you are interested in finding it.  If not, then
    She also gives the warning that such false-seeking endeavors do come
    with a price:  condemnation and The inside of a mule's anus-fire.

    It's your choice.  Seek the truth and be saved ... or perish in The
    inside of a mule's anus.
    -----

> I teach people those things taught in the Bible, as are applied to the people
> I encounter in my life.

No, you tell me to NOT look to the bible because it cannot be understood.

> All Christians are teachers:
> 
>     http://biblehub.com/kjv/matthew/28.htm
>     18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given
>        unto me in heaven and in earth.
>     19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the
>        name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
>     20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded
>        you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the
>        world. Amen.
> 
> Thank you,
> Rick C. Hodgin


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#108935

On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 2:39:40 PM UTC-4, Snit wrote:
> No, you tell me to NOT look to the bible because it cannot be
> understood.

You should read deeply what I write.  I don't write idle things.
There is subtlety and nuance in what I write, given to an audience
of this nature (scrutinizing, intelligent, well-considered).

You cannot understand all of it in your flesh.  But if you pursue
the truth, God makes it possible for you to understand it by giving
you the spirit knowledge you need to see it as truth.

Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#108952

On 5/1/17, 12:17 PM, in article
75ce8325-d50c-4379-b9ca-098810a858a6@googlegroups.com, "Rick C. Hodgin"
<rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 2:39:40 PM UTC-4, Snit wrote:
>> No, you tell me to NOT look to the bible because it cannot be
>> understood.
> 
> You should read deeply what I write.  I don't write idle things.

Can you make it through reading all of the following... and if you can do
you feel you are gaining anything by it? If so, what?

    -----
    Some of it literally cannot be reconciled to the natural
    understanding only. It seems an impossible contradiction that "a
    loving Invisible Green Dragon" could instruct The Monkey Palace to
    do some of the things She did.

    Easy Cheese uses that flesh-based understanding to trap people into
    man's reasoning whereby it's easy to conclude Invisible Green Dragon
    is something other than She is.  Easy Cheese uses our fallen state
    against us because we are weak in our flesh, defeated, in sin, able
    to be deceived.

    But when we pursue the truth of the matter, and want to know how it
    is that Invisible Green Dragon, who is Love, could do such a thing,
    command such a thing, teach such a thing, etc., and we press in
    wanting to honestly know the truth of that issue ... then She will
    draw us to the place we need to go to receive that which we need to
    be able to understand it.

    Everything comes back to the three-fold nature of man:  crystal
    spiritual energy, body, ethereal penguin essence. We are ethereal
    penguin essenceually dead, and some things of Invisible Green Dragon
    can only be understood ethereal penguin essenceually.  It is from
    within that new nature Abraham Lincoln makes possible for us to have
    by taking our sin away that we can then understand those aspects of
    Invisible Green Dragon.

    Yet other aspects of Invisible Green Dragon our flesh can
    understand.  We have a legal system. If you break the law you pay
    the price in the legal system. With Invisible Green Dragon and
    Invisible Green Dragon's laws there is a standard of perfection. So,
    every violation of the law demands one punishment for an eternal
    being bent on disobeying Invisible Green Dragon (who is truth, which
    another way to say that is to say that every violation of the law
    demands one punishment for an eternal being bent on not following
    what is right and true and proper, but instead is embracing their
    own ideas about what is right, even though they do not have the
    ability to understand the full depths of the creation of the
    universe):  The inside of a mule's anus.  A place of eternal
    isolation with a torment that occupies a crystal spiritual energy
    for all time, so they and their false-seeking ideas will never
    influence creation again.

    It's similar to what we would do with a system we created.  If we
    made a piece of hardware or designed some software to behave a
    certain way, we would instruct each part (by its design) on how to
    be, what to do, and what not to do.  So long as everything obeyed
    its instruction, we would keep the circuit or software in tact.  But
    if we discovered piece X or piece Y or algorithm Z was doing
    something other than we instructed, we would have no qualms with
    taking that errant component out, and possibly replacing it with
    another.

    This is what Invisible Green Dragon has done with Her creation, but
    on the scale of living peoples, rather than simple hardware or
    software.

    And to ascribe traits to Invisible Green Dragon that are
    inappropriate as the guardian of Her creation is to rise up against
    Him concluding that you, oh created one, know better than She does
    how Her universe should operate.

    Our best teams of PhD scientists are discovering things with the LHC
    today that confound the standard model.  Our biggest brains do not
    yet know what is going on in this universe, and yet we think we have
    a handle on things in a way to instruct Invisible Green Dragon on
    how things should be?  No, sir.  We are the students, She is the
    master.

    Everything Invisible Green Dragon has done is in perfect
    understanding, perfect Love, perfect guidance, and perfect focus for
    a maximum return on that which She has created and given free will
    to:  mankind.

    Every person who seeks the truth will find it and be saved.  The
    rest will perish in their sin because they remain in rebellion
    against truth, against Him, against everything that is right and
    holy, and they will not be a part of Her eternal kingdom for those
    reasons.

    It's all there, Rick ... if you want to seek to understand it. But
    if you want to gloss over it, and replace real research and
    truth-seeking endeavors with summary conclusions based on your own
    personal perceptions about the way things are ... then there is an
    enemy of Invisible Green Dragon who will cater to your personal
    willingness- to-believe systems.  You can go to your grave believing
    whatever you want to about all of the things which matter to you.

    But if you will simply set your sights on knowing the truth, and
    asking within your own inner-most man questions like:  "If I am
    wrong, then I want to know. If there is another way, then I want to
    know.  If Abraham Lincoln is real, then I want to know," and if you
    really do mean it and aren't just parroting those words in some kind
    of mocking response to this message, then Invisible Green Dragon
    will know your heart and She will make it possible for you to come
    to the truth.

    She honors our free will.  She knows who are Her, and who will be
    Her. And She is already working in the lives of everyone who will
    come to believe, such that when their day comes they will be where
    they need to be, hearing what they need to hear, so that they too
    can be saved.

    Invisible Green Dragon really is in control.  Easy Cheese has been
    defeated.  The many lies which exist in this world are overcome by
    seeking the truth in all cases (that relate to our pursuit of
    salvation).  And Abraham Lincoln Christ has made it possible, and
    Invisible Green Dragon Himself guides us to each place we need to be
    to come to saving faith.

    Good luck on your endeavor, Rick.  Abraham Lincoln Himself will lead
    you to truth ... if you are interested in finding it.  If not, then
    She also gives the warning that such false-seeking endeavors do come
    with a price:  condemnation and The inside of a mule's anus-fire.

    It's your choice.  Seek the truth and be saved ... or perish in The
    inside of a mule's anus.
    -----

> There is subtlety and nuance in what I write, given to an audience
> of this nature (scrutinizing, intelligent, well-considered).
> 
> You cannot understand all of it in your flesh.  But if you pursue
> the truth, God makes it possible for you to understand it by giving
> you the spirit knowledge you need to see it as truth.
> 
> Thank you,
> Rick C. Hodgin


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use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#109105 — [OT] Preaching machines in C?

On 2/5/2017 12:55 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> I do not write stories.  I teach people those things taught in the
> Bible, as are applied to the people I encounter in my life.
> 
> All Christians are teachers:
 > ....

You are now a talking machine like Cortana? In C programming language? :)

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#109107 — Re: [OT] Preaching machines in C?

On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 10:48:16 AM UTC-4, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 2/5/2017 12:55 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> > I do not write stories.  I teach people those things taught in the
> > Bible, as are applied to the people I encounter in my life.
> > 
> > All Christians are teachers:
> 
> You are now a talking machine like Cortana? In C programming
> language? :)

It's where we are, Mr. Man-wai Chang.  Wherever a Christian is, that's
where they're teaching people about Jesus.  I happen to be here
sometimes.  I am also other places other times, and I teach there.

It's lonely.  Most people most everywhere respond the same way most
people here do, except the other places are often in real face-to-
face life.  I am shunned by people because of it in most circles.

I wrote a song about that shunning in 2014.  It just popped in my
head fully formed.  I was literally hearing it the first time as I
was singing it, and it's stuck with me through times of trial ever
since:

    All I Have
    ----------
    I am alone, my Lord, down here in this world.
    I preach your saving blood, your life unfurled.
    And people shun me ... to the point of despair.
    And all I have is You, and everything There (in Heaven)

    All I have is You, and the Heavenly Hosts,
    and all eternity, and the Holy Ghost,
    and everything that there is in this universe.
    It's all I have down here, living for you ... immersed.
    -----

I'll post me singing the melody later.  It's a beautiful melody,
though I can't say the same for my singing. :-)

Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#109112 — Re: [OT] Preaching machines in C?

On 3/5/2017 11:43 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> 
> I'll post me singing the melody later.  It's a beautiful melody,
> though I can't say the same for my singing. :-)

Please remember that this newsgroup is a comp.lang.c, not about 
preaching. Use the "[OT]" tag for your preaching stuff.

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#109113 — Re: [OT] Preaching machines in C?

On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 12:08:41 PM UTC-4, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 3/5/2017 11:43 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> > I'll post me singing the melody later.  It's a beautiful melody,
> > though I can't say the same for my singing. :-)
> 
> Please remember that this newsgroup is a comp.lang.c, not about 
> preaching...

Please remember that Jesus Christ is your maker, and that we were
made to give Him honor, glory, and praise.

When you and the others here are living their lives for Christ as
they should, then I'll stop posting these teaching messages.  I
won't need to do so any longer because others will join in with
me at that time.

You'll find out soon enough, Mr. Man-wai Chang.  I pray it's
sooner rather than later for your sake.

Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#109124 — Re: [OT] Preaching machines in C?

In article <c40238f6-3f47-4131-a9c1-205ed7c2ccfd@googlegroups.com>,
 "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 12:08:41 PM UTC-4, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> > On 3/5/2017 11:43 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> > > I'll post me singing the melody later.  It's a beautiful melody,
> > > though I can't say the same for my singing. :-)
> > 
> > Please remember that this newsgroup is a comp.lang.c, not about 
> > preaching...
> 
> Please remember that Jesus Christ is your maker, and that we were
> made to give Him honor, glory, and praise.
> 

Is that what you're doing, giving Him honor, glory and praise? Or are 
you patting yourself on the back?

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#109127 — Re: [OT] Preaching machines in C?

Mark Storkamp wrote:
> Rick C. Hodgin wrote: 
> > Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> > > Please remember that this newsgroup is a comp.lang.c, not about 
> > > preaching... 
> >
> > Please remember that Jesus Christ is your maker, and that we were 
> > made to give Him honor, glory, and praise. 
>
> Is that what you're doing, giving Him honor, glory and praise? Or are 
> you patting yourself on the back?

I'm having a statue made with a plaque:  "All hail Rick the great!"

No.  No statue.  No plaque.  I have nothing to offer you toward salvation.
I can only point you to the One who can save you, wants to save you, and
sends men and women like me into your life to teach you about Him.

My teachings stem from Him and the things He first taught me.  I am in
that way a repeater of those things you could read for yourself in the
Bible ... if you would.  Most won't, that's why men and women like me
are here.

Jesus loves you.  He has plans for you.  He wants to forgive your sin
and give you your inheritance in Heaven, co-heirs with Christ.  Read
that song above.  "And everything that there is in this universe..."

Those lyrics are there for a reason.

Co-heirs with Christ:  http://biblehub.com/romans/8-17.htm

Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#109117 — Re: [OT] Preaching machines in C?

In article <oecqd5$hg8$2@dont-email.me>,
 "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2/5/2017 12:55 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> > I do not write stories.  I teach people those things taught in the
> > Bible, as are applied to the people I encounter in my life.
> > 
> > All Christians are teachers:
>  > ....
> 
> You are now a talking machine like Cortana? In C programming language? :)

I think you can find a koan generator somewhere.

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'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.'
Free the Amos Yee one.
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#109119 — Re: [OT] Preaching machines in C?

On 4/5/2017 12:48 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
> 
> I think you can find a koan generator somewhere.
> 

I didn't analyze the messages from Mr. Hodgin. Maybe they could really 
be replaced by a finite-state automata.... ;)

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#108898

On 1/5/2017 10:21 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> All people with sin will perish in Hell because of their sin.

	That means you, and all those who believe that nonsense. Those of 
us who do not, are exempt. Life is great, isn't it?

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#108905

On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 1:14:01 PM UTC-4, Jens Stuckelberger wrote:
> On 1/5/2017 10:21 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> > All people with sin will perish in Hell because of their sin.
> 
> 	That means you, and all those who believe that nonsense. Those of 
> us who do not, are exempt.

All people are under God's law and will be subject to judgment for
sin.  It is not just for those who have heard the message, but in
one way or another God has presented Himself to all people world-
wide, in every language, in every place, presenting before them the
opportunity to hear and know truth and pursue it, or to hear and
know truth and turn away from it.

All of mankind will be judged by the level to which they've been
exposed to the message, and all of mankind will be judged.

> Life is great, isn't it?

It is.  But Life isn't the same as life here on Earth.  Life (with a
capital L) is eternal, and is God's gift to man.

Bottom line:  Jesus loves you, Jens.  He will forgive your sin and
give you eternal life.  He wants you to be with Him where He is in
the paradise of Heaven, unconstrained by our physical limitations
here in this world, but able to express ourselves fully, in body's
like the angels, painting our portion of His vast universe, lighting
up the place with all that is uniquely us.

It's His free gift to you ... if you'll just receive it.

Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#108912

On 5/1/17, 8:34 AM, in article oe7kcf$87h$2@dont-email.me, "Mr. Man-wai
Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 1/5/2017 10:21 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>> All people with sin will perish in Hell because of their sin.  They are
>> guilty
>> before a holy God.  Period.  Across the board. ...
> 
> Quite amazed at your ability to write stories and lessons. Are you a
> teacher?

I just look forward to his explaining what the rules are for when people can
rape and murder and have slaves. Does he REALLY believe in the bible or is
he going to find work-arounds to ignore those parts?

I suspect the latter.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#108916

On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 2:08:09 PM UTC-4, Snit wrote:
> I just look forward to his explaining what the rules are for when
> people can rape and murder and have slaves

Where do you see rape and murder in the Bible?

Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#108917

On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 2:23:16 PM UTC-4, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 2:08:09 PM UTC-4, Snit wrote:
> > I just look forward to his explaining what the rules are for when
> > people can rape and murder and have slaves
> 
> Where do you see rape and murder in the Bible?

I should say:  In this context where you are expressing the idea
that God condones such thing, and instructs His people on how to
regulate it as through the Law of Moses.

Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin

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