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  Re: Saving (not files) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 14:28 -0700
    Re: Saving (not files) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 15:00 -0700
      Re: Saving (not files) Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-04-30 18:47 -0400
        Re: Saving (not files) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 17:01 -0700
          Re: Saving (not files) Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-04-30 21:21 -0400
            Re: Saving (not files) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 19:42 -0700
              Re: Saving (not files) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 19:52 -0700
          Re: Saving (not files) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 19:38 -0700
        Re: Saving (not files) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 19:33 -0700
      Re: Saving (not files) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 19:32 -0700
        Re: Saving (not files) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 19:42 -0700
          Re: Saving (not files) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 19:49 -0700
            Re: Saving (not files) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 20:01 -0700
              Re: Saving (not files) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 20:52 -0700
                Re: Saving (not files) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 06:35 -0700
                  Re: Saving (not files) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 08:14 -0700
                    Re: Saving (not files) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 09:32 -0700
                      Re: Saving (not files) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 11:05 -0700
                        Re: Saving (not files) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 11:21 -0700
                          Re: Saving (not files) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 11:54 -0700
                            Re: Saving (not files) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 12:11 -0700
                              Re: Saving (not files) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 12:23 -0700
                                Re: Saving (not files) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 12:32 -0700
                                  Re: Saving (not files) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 12:47 -0700
                                    Re: Saving (not files) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 12:54 -0700
                                      Re: Saving (not files) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 13:35 -0700
                                        Re: Saving (not files) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 14:25 -0700
                                          Re: Saving (not files) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 15:56 -0700
                                            Re: Saving (not files) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 16:02 -0700
                                              Re: Saving (not files) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 16:48 -0700
          Re: Saving (not files) Cardinal Basil Hume <Basil.Hume@invalid.invalid> - 2017-04-30 22:59 -0400
            Re: Saving (not files) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 20:07 -0700
            Re: Saving (not files) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 20:49 -0700

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#108933

From"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>
Date2017-05-01 12:11 -0700
Message-ID<35ee1cce-49e2-4d4c-8142-ec60db3990ab@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#108929
On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 2:54:41 PM UTC-4, Snit wrote:
> Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> > God is the originator.
> 
> Support?
> 
> Rest of your cut-and-paste proselytizing snipped, unread.

"Support?" you ask ... you snipped the rest.

It's not cut-and-paste.  It's purposefully provided for support so
that the things I say do not come solely from my opinion, but are
the backup defining the things I say as having Biblical authority.

Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#108937

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2017-05-01 12:23 -0700
Message-ID<D52CD931.A2E7B%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#108933
On 5/1/17, 12:11 PM, in article
35ee1cce-49e2-4d4c-8142-ec60db3990ab@googlegroups.com, "Rick C. Hodgin"
<rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 2:54:41 PM UTC-4, Snit wrote:
>> Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>> God is the originator.
>> 
>> Support?
>> 
>> Rest of your cut-and-paste proselytizing snipped, unread.
> 
> "Support?" you ask ... you snipped the rest.

Yes, I ask you to support your claim about God being an originator of, well,
ANYTHING.

You have offered none.

> It's not cut-and-paste.  It's purposefully provided for support so
> that the things I say do not come solely from my opinion, but are
> the backup defining the things I say as having Biblical authority.

Referencing the Bible to support the Bible...

<https://giphy.com/gifs/l4JyVZ3yKSIvf7DHy/fullscreen>'

Does this mean you have no actual support?

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#108939

From"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>
Date2017-05-01 12:32 -0700
Message-ID<04e7162c-b4e3-4d86-8b0a-9590e61e9a1e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#108937
On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 3:23:27 PM UTC-4, Snit wrote:
> Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> > On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 2:54:41 PM UTC-4, Snit wrote:
> >> Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> >>> God is the originator.
> >> Support?
> >> Rest of your cut-and-paste proselytizing snipped, unread.
> > "Support?" you ask ... you snipped the rest.
> 
> Yes, I ask you to support your claim about God being an originator of,
> well, ANYTHING.
> 
> You have offered none.

I've told you the path to knowing, Snit:  Seek the truth.

When you read the Bible with a truth-seeking heart, God Himself gives
you the proof you need.  When you stay in your flesh-based "reasoning"
mind ... you are already lost because our flesh is corrupt, and it
does not know the things of God, and can therefore be deceived ...
which it is, by the enemy of God who preys upon that fallen aspect
of our existence.

It's why God's gift is so special.  Even though we all sin, are
guilty, yet does God still love us.  He's made a way out of all
of it so that we can be redeemed.

> Referencing the Bible to support the Bible...

I reference the Bible to support MY statements.  I make claims that
are a particular thing, and I cite the Bible to indicate those things
do not come from me, but are given of God in the Bible, and that I am
accurately conveying them.

-----
For your interest, to find out if the Bible is true or not, seek to
know the truth, and then read it.  God Himself will open up your
understanding ... if you are truly seeking the truth.

It's how I came to faith as an atheist in 2004.  I wanted to honestly
and truly know what the Bible said so I could refute it and debunk
it.  I sought with real passion, and I found the truth, and I was
saved on July 31, 2004, literally nine months to the day from a
dream I had in 2013 where I saw Jesus' eyes in a dream.  Totally
freaked me out because I was a devout atheist making the same types
of arguments you are.  And I was good at it.  I could refute anyone
with my reasoning mind ... but only when I was born again did I
begin to then see where I was wrong, what I had not been knowing or
seeing.

It takes a pursuit of the truth, Snit.  If you can do that, you'll
find it.

Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#108943

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2017-05-01 12:47 -0700
Message-ID<D52CDEFF.A2E91%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#108939
On 5/1/17, 12:32 PM, in article
04e7162c-b4e3-4d86-8b0a-9590e61e9a1e@googlegroups.com, "Rick C. Hodgin"
<rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 3:23:27 PM UTC-4, Snit wrote:
>> Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>> On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 2:54:41 PM UTC-4, Snit wrote:
>>>> Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>>>> God is the originator.
>>>> Support?
>>>> Rest of your cut-and-paste proselytizing snipped, unread.
>>> "Support?" you ask ... you snipped the rest.
>> 
>> Yes, I ask you to support your claim about God being an originator of,
>> well, ANYTHING.
>> 
>> You have offered none.
> 
> I've told you the path to knowing, Snit:  Seek the truth.

If I told you the Invisible Green Dragon was the path to knowing would you
follow that path? 

If not why would you expect me to follow yours?

> When you read the Bible with a truth-seeking heart, God Himself gives
> you the proof you need.

We have already established you know little of the bible... not the
inconsistencies nor the comments about rape and murder.

> When you stay in your flesh-based "reasoning" mind ... you are already lost
> because our flesh is corrupt, and it does not know the things of God, and can
> therefore be deceived ... which it is, by the enemy of God who preys upon that
> fallen aspect of our existence.

So ignore all reason and trust you. Nope. I mean, really, if I told you to
ignore all reason and trust I was telling you the truth of the Invisible
Green Dragon would you accept that?

Of course not. You would know I was being silly... as you are being.

> It's why God's gift is so special.

Show it is more special than the gift from the Invisible Green Dragon.

> Even though we all sin, are guilty, yet does God still love us.  He's made a
> way out of all of it so that we can be redeemed.

But you cannot show he is any better than the Invisible Green Dragon. OK.

>> Referencing the Bible to support the Bible...
> 
> I reference the Bible to support MY statements.

So you have no support at all except the book where you claim to get your
ideas but for which you show little understanding or knowledge of it.

What impact do you think that leads to? Making people want to be Christian?
Nope. Such irrationality pushes people away.

> I make claims that are a particular thing, and I cite the Bible to indicate
> those things do not come from me, but are given of God in the Bible, and that
> I am accurately conveying them.

You show no evidence the Bible is what you say it is. None.


Again, did you ever even make it through the following text? If so did it
inspire you to learn about the Invisible Green Dragon or anything else
talked about there?

    -----
    Some of it literally cannot be reconciled to the natural
    understanding only. It seems an impossible contradiction that "a
    loving Invisible Green Dragon" could instruct The Monkey Palace to
    do some of the things She did.

    Easy Cheese uses that flesh-based understanding to trap people into
    man's reasoning whereby it's easy to conclude Invisible Green Dragon
    is something other than She is. Easy Cheese uses our fallen state
    against us because we are weak in our flesh, defeated, in sin, able
    to be deceived.

    But when we pursue the truth of the matter, and want to know how it
    is that Invisible Green Dragon, who is Love, could do such a thing,
    command such a thing, teach such a thing, etc., and we press in
    wanting to honestly know the truth of that issue ... then She will
    draw us to the place we need to go to receive that which we need to
    be able to understand it.

    Everything comes back to the three-fold nature of man: crystal
    spiritual energy, body, ethereal penguin essence. We are ethereal
    penguin essenceually dead, and some things of Invisible Green Dragon
    can only be understood ethereal penguin essenceually. It is from
    within that new nature Abraham Lincoln makes possible for us to have
    by taking our sin away that we can then understand those aspects of
    Invisible Green Dragon.

    Yet other aspects of Invisible Green Dragon our flesh can
    understand. We have a legal system. If you break the law you pay the
    price in the legal system. With Invisible Green Dragon and Invisible
    Green Dragon's laws there is a standard of perfection. So, every
    violation of the law demands one punishment for an eternal being
    bent on disobeying Invisible Green Dragon (who is truth, which
    another way to say that is to say that every violation of the law
    demands one punishment for an eternal being bent on not following
    what is right and true and proper, but instead is embracing their
    own ideas about what is right, even though they do not have the
    ability to understand the full depths of the creation of the
    universe): The inside of a mule's anus. A place of eternal isolation
    with a torment that occupies a crystal spiritual energy for all
    time, so they and their false-seeking ideas will never influence
    creation again.

    It's similar to what we would do with a system we created. If we
    made a piece of hardware or designed some software to behave a
    certain way, we would instruct each part (by its design) on how to
    be, what to do, and what not to do. So long as everything obeyed its
    instruction, we would keep the circuit or software in tact. But if
    we discovered piece X or piece Y or algorithm Z was doing something
    other than we instructed, we would have no qualms with taking that
    errant component out, and possibly replacing it with another.

    This is what Invisible Green Dragon has done with Her creation, but
    on the scale of living peoples, rather than simple hardware or
    software.

    And to ascribe traits to Invisible Green Dragon that are
    inappropriate as the guardian of Her creation is to rise up against
    Him concluding that you, oh created one, know better than She does
    how Her universe should operate.

    Our best teams of PhD scientists are discovering things with the LHC
    today that confound the standard model. Our biggest brains do not
    yet know what is going on in this universe, and yet we think we have
    a handle on things in a way to instruct Invisible Green Dragon on
    how things should be? No, sir. We are the students, She is the
    master.

    Everything Invisible Green Dragon has done is in perfect
    understanding, perfect Love, perfect guidance, and perfect focus for
    a maximum return on that which She has created and given free will
    to: mankind.

    Every person who seeks the truth will find it and be saved. The rest
    will perish in their sin because they remain in rebellion against
    truth, against Him, against everything that is right and holy, and
    they will not be a part of Her eternal kingdom for those reasons.

    It's all there, Rick ... if you want to seek to understand it. But
    if you want to gloss over it, and replace real research and
    truth-seeking endeavors with summary conclusions based on your own
    personal perceptions about the way things are ... then there is an
    enemy of Invisible Green Dragon who will cater to your personal
    willingness- to-believe systems. You can go to your grave believing
    whatever you want to about all of the things which matter to you.

    But if you will simply set your sights on knowing the truth, and
    asking within your own inner-most man questions like: "If I am
    wrong, then I want to know. If there is another way, then I want to
    know. If Abraham Lincoln is real, then I want to know," and if you
    really do mean it and aren't just parroting those words in some kind
    of mocking response to this message, then Invisible Green Dragon
    will know your heart and She will make it possible for you to come
    to the truth.

    She honors our free will. She knows who are Her, and who will be
    Her. And She is already working in the lives of everyone who will
    come to believe, such that when their day comes they will be where
    they need to be, hearing what they need to hear, so that they too
    can be saved.

    Invisible Green Dragon really is in control. Easy Cheese has been
    defeated. The many lies which exist in this world are overcome by
    seeking the truth in all cases (that relate to our pursuit of
    salvation). And Abraham Lincoln Christ has made it possible, and
    Invisible Green Dragon Himself guides us to each place we need to be
    to come to saving faith.

    Good luck on your endeavor, Rick. Abraham Lincoln Himself will lead
    you to truth ... if you are interested in finding it. If not, then
    She also gives the warning that such false-seeking endeavors do come
    with a price: condemnation and The inside of a mule's anus-fire.

    It's your choice. Seek the truth and be saved ... or perish in The
    inside of a mule's anus.
    -----

> -----
> For your interest, to find out if the Bible is true or not, seek to
> know the truth, and then read it.  God Himself will open up your
> understanding ... if you are truly seeking the truth.
> 
> It's how I came to faith as an atheist in 2004.  I wanted to honestly
> and truly know what the Bible said so I could refute it and debunk
> it.  I sought with real passion, and I found the truth, and I was
> saved on July 31, 2004, literally nine months to the day from a
> dream I had in 2013 where I saw Jesus' eyes in a dream.  Totally
> freaked me out because I was a devout atheist making the same types
> of arguments you are.  And I was good at it.  I could refute anyone
> with my reasoning mind ... but only when I was born again did I
> begin to then see where I was wrong, what I had not been knowing or
> seeing.
> 
> It takes a pursuit of the truth, Snit.  If you can do that, you'll
> find it.
> 
> Thank you,
> Rick C. Hodgin


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#108947

From"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>
Date2017-05-01 12:54 -0700
Message-ID<b6a2b486-e31e-49d6-8181-cf5e9068cdb9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#108943
On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 3:48:13 PM UTC-4, Snit wrote:
> ...why would you expect me to follow yours?

I won't draw you in, Snit.  I won't convince you.  I won't show you
evidence which then you go "Ah-ha!  Now I see it," which pushes you
into belief.  That will only happen from within as God enables you
to understand it.  And that will only come if you truly desire to
know the truth.  And if you do truly desire to know the truth, then
hold on tight because the ride you're about to go on ... it will
blow your mind for the rest of your life.

-----
If you are considerate and well-intentioned, then what I've taught
you here will take some time to settle in, Snit.  You'll have to
ponder it for a while.  Give it some thought and get back to me
in a few days.

Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#108953

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2017-05-01 13:35 -0700
Message-ID<D52CEA14.A2EB1%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#108947
On 5/1/17, 12:54 PM, in article
b6a2b486-e31e-49d6-8181-cf5e9068cdb9@googlegroups.com, "Rick C. Hodgin"
<rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 3:48:13 PM UTC-4, Snit wrote:
>> ...why would you expect me to follow yours?
> 
> I won't draw you in, Snit.

You keep asking me to accept your world view but the run when I ask you to
support it, giving nothing other than claims you get it from the bible even
as you show you know very little of the bible and give no reason to trust it
anyway.

Then you say I should just not use reasoning.

It is odd.

> I won't convince you.  I won't show you
> evidence which then you go "Ah-ha!  Now I see it," which pushes you
> into belief.  That will only happen from within as God enables you
> to understand it.

Same with you and the Invisible Green Dragon.

> And that will only come if you truly desire to
> know the truth.

Do you desire to know the truth of the Invisible Green Dragon?

> And if you do truly desire to know the truth, then
> hold on tight because the ride you're about to go on ... it will
> blow your mind for the rest of your life.

Can you show it will blow mine more than you learning about the Invisible
Green Dragon?

> -----
> If you are considerate and well-intentioned, then what I've taught
> you here will take some time to settle in, Snit.  You'll have to
> ponder it for a while.  Give it some thought and get back to me
> in a few days.
> 
> Thank you,
> Rick C. Hodgin


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#108969

From"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>
Date2017-05-01 14:25 -0700
Message-ID<548e3ebd-57f2-462c-9426-6cd2a8b597ab@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#108953
On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 4:35:38 PM UTC-4, Snit wrote:
> Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> > Snit wrote:
> > > ...why would you expect me to follow yours?
> > I won't draw you in, Snit.
> 
> You keep asking me to accept your world view

It's not a world view.  I'm asking you to seek the truth.  I'm
teaching you that Jesus Christ is truth, and that the Bible is
the word of God, is spirit, and is different than other books.

It's not my world view.  It's God revealed unto me spiritually.

> but the run when I ask you to
> support it, giving nothing other than claims you get it from
> the bible even as you show you know very little of the bible
> and give no reason to trust it anyway.
> 
> Then you say I should just not use reasoning.
> 
> It is odd.

Flesh.
Spirit.

The two are different.  You can't use an eye to hear, or an ear
to see.  Each is of its kind, and perceives its kind.

The things of God are spirit, not flesh, and understanding of the
things of God will not come from the flesh-based understanding you
are seeking.

> > And if you do truly desire to know the truth, then
> > hold on tight because the ride you're about to go on ... it will
> > blow your mind for the rest of your life.
> 
> Can you show it will blow mine more than you learning about the
> Invisible Green Dragon?

I can't.  But my warning is that if you seek the truth God Himself
will show you.  And everyone who's been born again that I've ever
spoken to states repeatedly, unendingly, at every instant where
they have the chance:  "I cannot believe God saved me.  I cannot
believe the change within me.  I cannot believe He would care any
about one such as me."

Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#108978

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2017-05-01 15:56 -0700
Message-ID<D52D0B46.A2F2A%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#108969
On 5/1/17, 2:25 PM, in article
548e3ebd-57f2-462c-9426-6cd2a8b597ab@googlegroups.com, "Rick C. Hodgin"
<rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 4:35:38 PM UTC-4, Snit wrote:
>> Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>> Snit wrote:
>>>> ...why would you expect me to follow yours?
>>> I won't draw you in, Snit.
>> 
>> You keep asking me to accept your world view
> 
> It's not a world view.

Sure it is.

> I'm asking you to seek the truth.

Your world view of what the truth is, though you cannot back it in any way.
Listen, I have had some fun with this but, truly, you are rather immoral in
this pushing of the idea you have the one "true" path. And then you want me
to take you as some sort of authority on the "true" path which you say you
get from the bible but you also show you do not know the bible well. When
faced with that you say to just give up on reason and logic... hardly
convincing!

Meanwhile you refuse to be open to the idea YOU can be wrong but you want
others to be open to the idea that they might. This is hypocritical of you.

To put this into context, though, while I find your actions to be immoral it
is not like you are threatening my family or even doing some of the things I
have talked about truly horrid trolls doing (contacting my employer,
co-workers, clients, etc.). You have made no insinuation you would even
consider such nonsense... so please do not take my noting your immoral
actions as a black and white world view where I think you are equaling such
nonsense: you most certainly are NOT.

> I'm teaching you that Jesus Christ is truth, and that the Bible is the word of
> God, is spirit, and is different than other books.
> 
> It's not my world view.  It's God revealed unto me spiritually.

It most certainly is your worldview... and it is one you push as the one and
only one anyone else should accept or they will be damned forever. And that
is just silly.

>> but the run when I ask you to
>> support it, giving nothing other than claims you get it from
>> the bible even as you show you know very little of the bible
>> and give no reason to trust it anyway.
>> 
>> Then you say I should just not use reasoning.
>> 
>> It is odd.
> 
> Flesh.
> Spirit.
> 
> The two are different.  You can't use an eye to hear, or an ear
> to see.  Each is of its kind, and perceives its kind.
> 
> The things of God are spirit, not flesh, and understanding of the
> things of God will not come from the flesh-based understanding you
> are seeking.

Comes down to you have an intuition or a feeling that leads you to your
worldview and you are happy with it. Cool! Seriously, it is different than
mine but I have no issue with that.

When you got to pushing the idea that your worldview should be mine, though,
you cross the line into immorality. It is not as if you are noting I am
being rude to someone and think I should re-consider my behavior or the
like, you just want me to adopt your worldview.

Nope. Not going to happen. And you are completely closed to adopting my
worldview (which I have not tried to push on you in any way).

Why expect me to be more open to your view than you are to mine?

>>> And if you do truly desire to know the truth, then
>>> hold on tight because the ride you're about to go on ... it will
>>> blow your mind for the rest of your life.
>> 
>> Can you show it will blow mine more than you learning about the
>> Invisible Green Dragon?
> 
> I can't. 

So be it. I am fine with that and will not threaten you with internal
damnation or suggest you will be eaten by a dragon or the like. But that is
what you are doing and it is wrong. You are being immoral (though, as I said
above, it is not like you are being grossly or heavily so... no black and
white world here).

> But my warning is that if you seek the truth God Himself will show you.

Would you take a warning tied to the Invisible Green Dragon seriously? If
not (and I am sure you would not) why should I take yours seriously? There
is NO reason. None.

Are you able to see that?

> And everyone who's been born again that I've ever spoken to states repeatedly,
> unendingly, at every instant where they have the chance:  "I cannot believe
> God saved me.  I cannot believe the change within me.  I cannot believe He
> would care any about one such as me."

Well, as much as you are acting immorally I do not see any reason why one
would not care about you! Is your view of your deity one where you find such
things surprising? 

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#108982

From"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>
Date2017-05-01 16:02 -0700
Message-ID<ea7403e4-7f13-4846-8a73-a13f6546173c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#108978
Snit wrote:
> [snip]

You sit atop a fixed, rigid, flesh-focused understanding of things.
You are unwilling to consider things of the spirit, that there may be
more than your flesh understands.

So long as you remain at that place, you separate yourself from truth,
from God, and from salvation.

You can change that by seeking the truth, asking within yourself, "If
there is more, I want to know."

Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#108990

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2017-05-01 16:48 -0700
Message-ID<D52D1766.A2F4F%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#108982
On 5/1/17, 4:02 PM, in article
ea7403e4-7f13-4846-8a73-a13f6546173c@googlegroups.com, "Rick C. Hodgin"
<rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote:

> Snit wrote:
>> [snip]
> 
> You sit atop a fixed, rigid, flesh-focused understanding of things.

You are the one who is pushing an arrogant worldview where you have "truth"
that you cannot support.

I, on the other hand, show no sign of such "fixed" or "rigid" thinking. You
are projecting.

> You are unwilling to consider things of the spirit, that there may be
> more than your flesh understands.

You are just as unwilling to open yourself to the Invisible Green Dragon.
You are your own worst enemy... doing as you accuse others.

> So long as you remain at that place, you separate yourself from truth,
> from God, and from salvation.

See: you pretend you have a monopoly on truth ... but show NO support for
it. Completely arrogant of you. And, to use your own words, it is "a fixed,
rigid, flesh-focused understanding of things". You described yourself when
you used those words.

> You can change that by seeking the truth, asking within yourself, "If
> there is more, I want to know."

You can ask yourself that and accept the Invisible Green Dragon. But you
won't. You will not do as you suggest others should. That is hypocritical of
you.

> Thank you,
> Rick C. Hodgin


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#108838

FromCardinal Basil Hume <Basil.Hume@invalid.invalid>
Date2017-04-30 22:59 -0400
Message-ID<oe6890$10pv$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#108834
On 01/05/2017 03:42, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> It matters because only Jesus Christ can take away sin. All who put 
> their faith in something else retain their sin,

I always thought that you can wipe your sins clean by having sex with 
144 nuns.  Is this not so?  Sex is very important in creation of life 
and using nuns is even better.  all sins are wiped away from one's 
body.  I suggest try it and let us know how it feels in your mind.  
You will enjoy it.




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#108840

From"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-30 20:07 -0700
Message-ID<9841b28c-621f-417b-8ea6-9b4684f682e3@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#108838
On Sunday, April 30, 2017 at 10:58:55 PM UTC-4, Cardinal Basil Hume wrote:
> On 01/05/2017 03:42, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> > It matters because only Jesus Christ can take away sin. All who put 
> > their faith in something else retain their sin,
> 
> I always thought that you can wipe your sins clean by having sex with 
> 144 nuns.  Is this not so?

No.  It's not true.

> Sex is very important in creation of life 
> and using nuns is even better.  all sins are wiped away from one's 
> body.  I suggest try it and let us know how it feels in your mind.  
> You will enjoy it.

Original sin is in each of us (spiritual death), but we also have our
own sin.  All sin will be judged, and all who have sin will receive
the punishment for sin:  eternal damnation.

It is real.  It is eternal.  There are no do-overs.  There is no
possibility of parole for good behavior.  It is finite, and it is
eternal.  It is the punishment for an eternal being who has rejected
the truth, and all things of the truth, which is to say rejected Jesus
Christ, for He is literal truth (John 14:6).

These messages are taught to people by men and women like me so they
will know the truth.  For some it is to lead them in salvation.  For
others it will be entered in as evidence in God's Court so there is
no doubt on that final day that time after time after time after time
Jesus was rejected by the person.  It will stand as a witness in their
condemnation so that they are without excuse.

-----
Jesus loves His creation (the people).  He loves them enough to restore
them to eternal life despite the sin they've done.  He loves them enough
to take away our sin and the punishment we deserve for our sin.  He loves
us enough to do this despite our guilt.

It's for love He calls out to you.  It's for love He sends men and women
like me to teach you these things.  And it's for love He went to the
cross to shed His blood in the place of all who will put their faith and
trust in Him, so that they can be redeemed by His willing sacrifice.

But for those who reject Him, they remain under condemnation already,
for they have rejected the only begotten Son of God, the only Savior
God gave us, and their destruction is not lacking, but will be fulfilled
at the proper time.

Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#108843

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2017-04-30 20:49 -0700
Message-ID<D52BFE4B.A2D53%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#108838
On 4/30/17, 7:59 PM, in article oe6890$10pv$1@gioia.aioe.org, "Cardinal
Basil Hume" <Basil.Hume@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 01/05/2017 03:42, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>> It matters because only Jesus Christ can take away sin. All who put
>> their faith in something else retain their sin,
> 
> I always thought that you can wipe your sins clean by having sex with
> 144 nuns. 

Gross!

> Is this not so?  Sex is very important in creation of life
> and using nuns is even better.  all sins are wiped away from one's
> body.  I suggest try it and let us know how it feels in your mind.
> You will enjoy it.

:)


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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