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  Switching to C# "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2019-06-12 11:01 -0400
    Re: Switching to C# fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2019-06-12 08:21 -0700
    Re: Switching to C# Szyk Cech <szykcech@spoko.pl> - 2019-06-12 17:32 +0200
      Re: Switching to C# "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2019-06-12 12:04 -0400
        Re: Switching to C# Szyk Cech <szykcech@spoko.pl> - 2019-06-13 05:50 +0200
      Re: Switching to C# fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2019-06-13 15:43 -0700
    Re: Switching to C# gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2019-06-12 16:30 +0000
      Re: Switching to C# My nuts hurt <cdalten@gmail.com> - 2019-06-13 09:54 -0700
      Re: Switching to C# Jens Stuckelberger <Jens_Stuckelberger@nowhere.net> - 2019-06-14 15:28 +0000
        Re: Switching to C# gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2019-06-14 15:55 +0000
          Re: Switching to C# rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com - 2019-06-14 10:25 -0700
            Re: Switching to C# scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2019-06-14 17:56 +0000
              Whatever will we do without Rick??? (Was: Switching to C#) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2019-06-14 18:02 +0000
                Re: Whatever will we do without Rick??? (Was: Switching to C#) rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com - 2019-06-14 12:24 -0700
              Re: Switching to C# "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2019-06-14 14:24 -0400
        Re: Switching to C# "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2019-06-14 12:57 -0400
          Re: Switching to C# Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> - 2019-06-15 01:29 +0100
    Re: Switching to C# "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson_invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-06-12 17:17 -0700
      Re: Switching to C# "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson_invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-06-12 23:41 -0700
    Re: Switching to C# Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> - 2019-06-13 03:30 +0100
      Re: Switching to C# "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2019-06-14 08:43 -0400
        Re: Switching to C# nobody@example.org (Scott) - 2019-06-14 15:21 +0000
          Re: Switching to C# "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2019-06-14 12:55 -0400
            Re: Switching to C# Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> - 2019-06-15 01:28 +0100
          Re: Switching to C# Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-06-14 18:07 +0100
            Re: Switching to C# David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-06-15 09:44 +0200
            Re: Switching to C# fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2019-06-15 01:24 -0700
              Re: Switching to C# fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2019-06-15 02:04 -0700
                Re: Switching to C# fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2019-06-15 03:24 -0700
                  Re: Switching to C# fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2019-06-15 03:41 -0700
                Re: Switching to C# Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2019-06-16 15:16 +0300
          Re: Switching to C# Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-06-15 18:49 +0200
            Re: Switching to C# Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-06-15 17:58 +0100
              Re: Switching to C# Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-06-16 07:28 +0200
            Re: Switching to C# nobody@example.org (Scott) - 2019-06-16 01:58 +0000
              Re: Switching to C# Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-06-15 19:31 -0700
                Re: Switching to C# nobody@example.org (Scott) - 2019-06-16 08:20 +0000
                  Re: Switching to C# Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-06-16 02:24 -0700
                    Re: Switching to C# nobody@example.org (Scott) - 2019-06-16 17:03 +0000
                      Re: Switching to C# Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-06-16 14:24 -0700
                        Re: Switching to C# nobody@example.org (Scott) - 2019-06-17 03:02 +0000
              Re: Switching to C# Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-06-16 10:54 +0200
                Re: Switching to C# Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-06-16 02:26 -0700
                  Re: Switching to C# Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-06-16 12:43 +0200
                    Re: Switching to C# nobody@example.org (Scott) - 2019-06-16 17:05 +0000
                    Re: Switching to C# Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-06-16 14:26 -0700
                      Re: Switching to C# Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-06-17 06:31 +0200
              Re: Switching to C# David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-06-16 12:23 +0200
                Re: Switching to C# Manfred <noname@invalid.add> - 2019-06-16 23:06 +0200
                Re: Switching to C# Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-06-16 14:27 -0700
                  Re: Switching to C# David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-06-16 23:33 +0200
              Re: Switching to C# James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2019-06-17 08:30 -0400
    Re: Switching to C# "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson_invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-06-13 00:06 -0700
      Re: Switching to C# "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2019-06-14 08:49 -0400
        Re: Switching to C# "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson_invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-06-17 23:30 -0700
          Re: Switching to C# rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com - 2019-06-18 02:58 -0700
          Re: Switching to C# Mel <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2019-06-18 22:46 +0200
            Re: Switching to C# "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson_invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-06-18 14:00 -0700
              Re: Switching to C# Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-06-18 21:11 +0000
                Re: Switching to C# "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson_invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-06-18 15:36 -0700
                  Re: Switching to C# rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com - 2019-06-18 15:42 -0700
                  Re: Switching to C# Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-06-19 04:26 +0000
    Switching to C# Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2019-06-13 03:05 -0700
      Re: Switching to C# Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> - 2019-06-13 12:30 -0400
    Re: Switching to C# My nuts hurt <cdalten@gmail.com> - 2019-06-13 09:51 -0700
      Re: Switching to C# luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2019-06-13 09:56 -0700
        Re: Switching to C# Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2019-06-13 22:24 +0000
          Re: Switching to C# Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2019-06-18 06:33 -0700

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#144977

On Tuesday, June 18, 2019 at 6:36:25 PM UTC-4, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 6/18/2019 2:11 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:
> > On 2019-06-18, Chris M. Thomasson <invalid_chris_thomasson_invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
> >> On 6/18/2019 1:46 PM, Mel wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 23:30:44 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
> >>> <invalid_chris_thomasson_invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
> >>>> I hope I can go to the Ultimate Good side after I finally die. I
> >>> just do
> >>>> not know for sure what actually happens. Yikes!
> >>>
> >>> You are not already there?
> >>>
> >>
> >> Not dead yet. Knocking on wood... :^)
> > You are not on Ultimate Good side already?
> > 
> 
> I always try to be a nice person: Is that good enough?

God doesn't grade on a curve.  The standard to enter into Heaven
is literal perfection.

None of us are or can be perfect in and of ourselves.  We require
a savior, someone to take our imperfections (our sin) away from
us, thereby purging us of all inquity in God's sight.

That's what Jesus did at the cross.  Innocent before God, guilty
by men, able to have all of our sin transferred to Him so He
would die with it, and we would be released from it.

Without Jesus, everybody is literally going to Hell because of
their sin.  Literally billions of people alive today will enter
into Hell thinking all the while they were okay, or they weren't
as bad as so-and-so they know, so they must be in good standing
with God.

It's going to be a shocker for so many.  The Bible records that
on the day of judgment there will be weeping and gnashing of
teeth.  People will be so angry at themselves for not seeking
out the truth they knew in their heart.  They're going to realize
they've forfeited their entire future for some temporary sin here
on Earth that, in a short period of time after death, will seem
so insignificant compared to the weight of eternity.

-- 
Rick C. Hodgin

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#144978

On 2019-06-18, Chris M. Thomasson <invalid_chris_thomasson_invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
> On 6/18/2019 2:11 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:
>> On 2019-06-18, Chris M. Thomasson <invalid_chris_thomasson_invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>>> On 6/18/2019 1:46 PM, Mel wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 23:30:44 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>> <invalid_chris_thomasson_invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>> I hope I can go to the Ultimate Good side after I finally die. I
>>>> just do
>>>>> not know for sure what actually happens. Yikes!
>>>>
>>>> You are not already there?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Not dead yet. Knocking on wood... :^)
>> You are not on Ultimate Good side already?
>> 
>
> I always try to be a nice person: Is that good enough?

Seems so ;)


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#144798

God heard our pray and you are leaving this group !

:)

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#144807

On 13/06/2019 11:05, Thiago Adams wrote:
> God heard our pray and you are leaving this group !
>
> :)
We should have a leaving party here with champaign of all kinds.

Hopefully Ramine will do the same and we can have Muslim leaving do!!!.

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#144809

On Wednesday, June 12, 2019 at 7:59:16 AM UTC-7, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> All,
> 
> I'll never leave C/C++, but having had occasion recently to use C#
> recently I will be leaving these groups for daily monitoring, for
> major new development and related activity.  I'll only be back here
> periodically.
> 
> I've enjoyed and appreciated the help you've given me over the
> years.  My skills have improved by your input and tutelage, and
> I owe specific knowledge to certain people (Ben for understanding
> the term "discriminating union," for example).
> 
> There are several people here I will miss, and I wish all of you
> well.
> 
> Take care.
> 
> -- 

Isn't it C# that uses Dr. Kay's definition of OOP? Ie, it's a message passing system and NOT representing things as objects. Maybe that's objective C. Dunno, I'm too lazy too google it right now. All I know is that one of them was based the late Steve Jobs interpretation of Dr. Kay's definition of OOP.

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#144811

On Thursday, June 13, 2019 at 11:52:03 AM UTC-5, My nuts hurt wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 12, 2019 at 7:59:16 AM UTC-7, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> > All,
> > 
> > I'll never leave C/C++, but having had occasion recently to use C#
> > recently I will be leaving these groups for daily monitoring, for
> > major new development and related activity.  I'll only be back here
> > periodically.
> > 
> > I've enjoyed and appreciated the help you've given me over the
> > years.  My skills have improved by your input and tutelage, and
> > I owe specific knowledge to certain people (Ben for understanding
> > the term "discriminating union," for example).
> > 
> > There are several people here I will miss, and I wish all of you
> > well.
> > 
> > Take care.
> > 
> > -- 
> 
> Isn't it C# that uses Dr. Kay's definition of OOP? Ie, it's a message passing system and NOT representing things as objects. Maybe that's objective C. Dunno, I'm too lazy too google it right now. All I know is that one of them was based the late Steve Jobs interpretation of Dr. Kay's definition of OOP.

I think you're thinking of Erlang which uses explicit message passing.

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#144826

On Thu, 2019-06-13, luser droog wrote:
...
>> Isn't it C# that uses Dr. Kay's definition of OOP? Ie, it's a
>> message passing system and NOT representing things as
>> objects. Maybe that's objective C. Dunno, I'm too lazy too google
>> it right now. All I know is that one of them was based the late
>> Steve Jobs interpretation of Dr. Kay's definition of OOP.
>
> I think you're thinking of Erlang which uses explicit message passing.

The idea -- seeing function calls as passing messages to objects --
exists in Smalltalk, which is a much older language.  But I'm also too
lazy to google it, and 1980s OOP doesn't interest me.

/Jorgen

-- 
  // Jorgen Grahn <grahn@  Oo  o.   .     .
\X/     snipabacken.se>   O  o   .

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#144960

Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> writes:

> On Thu, 2019-06-13, luser droog wrote:
> ...
>
>>> Isn't it C# that uses Dr. Kay's definition of OOP?  Ie, it's a
>>> message passing system and NOT representing things as
>>> objects.  Maybe that's objective C. Dunno, I'm too lazy too google
>>> it right now.  All I know is that one of them was based the late
>>> Steve Jobs interpretation of Dr. Kay's definition of OOP.
>>
>> I think you're thinking of Erlang which uses explicit message passing.
>
> The idea -- seeing function calls as passing messages to objects --
> exists in Smalltalk, which is a much older language.  [...]

I think this is a common mistake among people who have read about
Smalltalk but never used it.  Message _passing_ in Erlang has
little or nothing to do with message _sending_ in Smalltalk.
"Sending a message" in Smalltalk is essentially the same as
calling a member function in C++, the main difference being that
the function lookup is always dynamically bound, much like
'virtual' in C++.  (Calls to 'super' in Smalltalk have a different
rule for how the lookup is done, but they are still dynamically
bound, even if in a different way.)

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