Re: Switching to C#

From	Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.c
Subject	Re: Switching to C#
Date	2019-06-18 06:33 -0700
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Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> writes:

> On Thu, 2019-06-13, luser droog wrote:
> ...
>
>>> Isn't it C# that uses Dr. Kay's definition of OOP?  Ie, it's a
>>> message passing system and NOT representing things as
>>> objects.  Maybe that's objective C. Dunno, I'm too lazy too google
>>> it right now.  All I know is that one of them was based the late
>>> Steve Jobs interpretation of Dr. Kay's definition of OOP.
>>
>> I think you're thinking of Erlang which uses explicit message passing.
>
> The idea -- seeing function calls as passing messages to objects --
> exists in Smalltalk, which is a much older language.  [...]

I think this is a common mistake among people who have read about
Smalltalk but never used it.  Message _passing_ in Erlang has
little or nothing to do with message _sending_ in Smalltalk.
"Sending a message" in Smalltalk is essentially the same as
calling a member function in C++, the main difference being that
the function lookup is always dynamically bound, much like
'virtual' in C++.  (Calls to 'super' in Smalltalk have a different
rule for how the lookup is done, but they are still dynamically
bound, even if in a different way.)

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Switching to C# "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2019-06-12 11:01 -0400
  Re: Switching to C# fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2019-06-12 08:21 -0700
  Re: Switching to C# Szyk Cech <szykcech@spoko.pl> - 2019-06-12 17:32 +0200
    Re: Switching to C# "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2019-06-12 12:04 -0400
      Re: Switching to C# Szyk Cech <szykcech@spoko.pl> - 2019-06-13 05:50 +0200
    Re: Switching to C# fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2019-06-13 15:43 -0700
  Re: Switching to C# gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2019-06-12 16:30 +0000
    Re: Switching to C# My nuts hurt <cdalten@gmail.com> - 2019-06-13 09:54 -0700
    Re: Switching to C# Jens Stuckelberger <Jens_Stuckelberger@nowhere.net> - 2019-06-14 15:28 +0000
      Re: Switching to C# gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2019-06-14 15:55 +0000
        Re: Switching to C# rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com - 2019-06-14 10:25 -0700
          Re: Switching to C# scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2019-06-14 17:56 +0000
            Whatever will we do without Rick??? (Was: Switching to C#) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2019-06-14 18:02 +0000
              Re: Whatever will we do without Rick??? (Was: Switching to C#) rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com - 2019-06-14 12:24 -0700
            Re: Switching to C# "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2019-06-14 14:24 -0400
      Re: Switching to C# "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2019-06-14 12:57 -0400
        Re: Switching to C# Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> - 2019-06-15 01:29 +0100
  Re: Switching to C# "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson_invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-06-12 17:17 -0700
    Re: Switching to C# "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson_invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-06-12 23:41 -0700
  Re: Switching to C# Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> - 2019-06-13 03:30 +0100
    Re: Switching to C# "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2019-06-14 08:43 -0400
      Re: Switching to C# nobody@example.org (Scott) - 2019-06-14 15:21 +0000
        Re: Switching to C# "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2019-06-14 12:55 -0400
          Re: Switching to C# Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> - 2019-06-15 01:28 +0100
        Re: Switching to C# Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-06-14 18:07 +0100
          Re: Switching to C# David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-06-15 09:44 +0200
          Re: Switching to C# fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2019-06-15 01:24 -0700
            Re: Switching to C# fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2019-06-15 02:04 -0700
              Re: Switching to C# fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2019-06-15 03:24 -0700
                Re: Switching to C# fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2019-06-15 03:41 -0700
              Re: Switching to C# Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2019-06-16 15:16 +0300
        Re: Switching to C# Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-06-15 18:49 +0200
          Re: Switching to C# Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2019-06-15 17:58 +0100
            Re: Switching to C# Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-06-16 07:28 +0200
          Re: Switching to C# nobody@example.org (Scott) - 2019-06-16 01:58 +0000
            Re: Switching to C# Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-06-15 19:31 -0700
              Re: Switching to C# nobody@example.org (Scott) - 2019-06-16 08:20 +0000
                Re: Switching to C# Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-06-16 02:24 -0700
                Re: Switching to C# nobody@example.org (Scott) - 2019-06-16 17:03 +0000
                Re: Switching to C# Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-06-16 14:24 -0700
                Re: Switching to C# nobody@example.org (Scott) - 2019-06-17 03:02 +0000
            Re: Switching to C# Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-06-16 10:54 +0200
              Re: Switching to C# Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-06-16 02:26 -0700
                Re: Switching to C# Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-06-16 12:43 +0200
                Re: Switching to C# nobody@example.org (Scott) - 2019-06-16 17:05 +0000
                Re: Switching to C# Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-06-16 14:26 -0700
                Re: Switching to C# Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-06-17 06:31 +0200
            Re: Switching to C# David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-06-16 12:23 +0200
              Re: Switching to C# Manfred <noname@invalid.add> - 2019-06-16 23:06 +0200
              Re: Switching to C# Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-06-16 14:27 -0700
                Re: Switching to C# David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-06-16 23:33 +0200
            Re: Switching to C# James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2019-06-17 08:30 -0400
  Re: Switching to C# "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson_invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-06-13 00:06 -0700
    Re: Switching to C# "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2019-06-14 08:49 -0400
      Re: Switching to C# "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson_invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-06-17 23:30 -0700
        Re: Switching to C# rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com - 2019-06-18 02:58 -0700
        Re: Switching to C# Mel <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2019-06-18 22:46 +0200
          Re: Switching to C# "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson_invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-06-18 14:00 -0700
            Re: Switching to C# Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-06-18 21:11 +0000
              Re: Switching to C# "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson_invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-06-18 15:36 -0700
                Re: Switching to C# rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com - 2019-06-18 15:42 -0700
                Re: Switching to C# Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-06-19 04:26 +0000
  Switching to C# Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2019-06-13 03:05 -0700
    Re: Switching to C# Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> - 2019-06-13 12:30 -0400
  Re: Switching to C# My nuts hurt <cdalten@gmail.com> - 2019-06-13 09:51 -0700
    Re: Switching to C# luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2019-06-13 09:56 -0700
      Re: Switching to C# Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2019-06-13 22:24 +0000
        Re: Switching to C# Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2019-06-18 06:33 -0700

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