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| Started by | "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2016-11-14 18:57 +0800 |
| Last post | 2016-11-15 20:15 +0800 |
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Simplest compiler for C "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 18:57 +0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C Mark Storkamp <mstorkamp@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-14 08:44 -0600
Re: Simplest compiler for C "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 22:46 +0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 08:15 -0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 01:29 +0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C Dutch Ingraham <spikeheron@att.net> - 2016-11-14 11:43 -0600
Re: Simplest compiler for C "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 19:18 +0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-11-14 18:23 +0000
Re: Simplest compiler for C jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-11-14 20:09 +0100
Re: Simplest compiler for C Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 19:11 +0000
Re: Simplest compiler for C BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-11-14 19:42 +0000
Re: Simplest compiler for C fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 12:00 -0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 12:17 -0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 12:19 -0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-11-14 12:40 -0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 13:08 -0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 13:12 -0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 12:10 -0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-11-15 10:05 +0100
Re: Simplest compiler for C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-11-15 09:50 +0100
Re: Simplest compiler for C luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 09:39 -0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-11-14 09:53 -0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 10:31 -0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-11-14 18:57 +0000
Re: Simplest compiler for C "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 11:07 -0800
Re: optimization "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 19:20 +0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-11-15 12:56 +0000
Re: Simplest compiler for C "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 05:34 -0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-11-15 16:07 +0000
Re: Simplest compiler for C "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 08:59 -0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-11-15 21:35 +0000
Re: Simplest compiler for C "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 15:33 -0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-11-16 14:58 +0000
Re: Simplest compiler for C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-11-16 08:44 -0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 08:54 -0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-11-16 09:11 -0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 09:36 -0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-11-16 11:41 -0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 11:45 -0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 18:54 -0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-11-17 04:44 -0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-11-17 08:42 -0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-11-17 09:17 -0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-11-17 09:42 -0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-11-17 09:57 -0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-11-17 10:07 -0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-11-17 11:35 -0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-11-17 12:02 -0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-11-17 13:23 -0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-11-17 13:55 -0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-11-17 15:15 -0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-11-18 10:41 +0100
Re: Simplest compiler for C BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-11-18 12:12 +0000
Re: Simplest compiler for C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-11-18 13:24 +0100
Re: Simplest compiler for C Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-11-18 09:45 -0500
Re: Simplest compiler for C BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-11-17 20:08 +0000
Re: Simplest compiler for C "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-11-17 12:21 -0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-11-18 03:22 -0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-11-18 19:23 +0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-11-18 03:36 -0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-11-18 19:52 +0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-11-19 17:55 -0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-11-16 17:19 +0000
Re: Simplest compiler for C BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-11-16 19:09 +0000
Re: Simplest compiler for C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-11-16 23:12 +0100
Re: Simplest compiler for C "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-11-16 14:21 -0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2016-11-16 18:02 -0500
Re: Simplest compiler for C "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-11-17 17:01 -0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-11-18 01:05 -0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2016-11-18 10:38 -0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-11-20 15:38 -0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-11-17 09:57 +0100
Re: Simplest compiler for C BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-11-17 11:25 +0000
Re: Simplest compiler for C "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 08:56 -0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 09:10 -0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 09:34 -0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 06:32 -0800
[OT] Output of C compilers and CPU architectures "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 22:50 +0800
Re: [OT] Output of C compilers and CPU architectures "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 07:46 -0800
Re: [OT] Output of C compilers and CPU architectures "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 00:12 +0800
Re: [OT] Output of C compilers and CPU architectures "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 09:02 -0800
Re: [OT] Output of C compilers and CPU architectures "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 01:14 +0800
Re: [OT] Output of C compilers and CPU architectures "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 09:24 -0800
Re: [OT] Output of C compilers and CPU architectures "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 01:27 +0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 21:49 +0300
Re: Simplest compiler for C "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 11:02 -0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 21:37 +0300
Re: Simplest compiler for C "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 18:07 +0800
Re: Simplest compiler for C "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 20:15 +0800
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| From | "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-15 09:02 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Output of C compilers and CPU architectures |
| Message-ID | <e903224a-e1a9-4eaf-b650-d82ac868b2fd@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #96608 |
On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 at 11:13:01 AM UTC-5, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: > On 15/11/2016 11:46 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > > > > What world do you want to live in, Mr. Man-wai Chang? The one where > > everything is wholly divided and isolated into finite and explicitly > > purposed forms? No structural building should ever be beautiful? No > > library should also include artwork on the walls? > > > > There are a plethora of people in this group who will speak to you > > about any issue of C you'd like to address. The C Standard language, > > quirks of a particular C compiler implementation, etc. > > > > I don't know about you, but to me those subjects are interesting, but > > they are also boring when that's all there is. We who are C developers > > likely share some common interests in things related to C. Each of us > > has a domain and range and our domains and ranges overlap in some > > common areas. Should we devote a dedicated group to addressing each > > and every one of those common overlaps? Or should be have the more > > aesthetic world view that we can come together and share in these > > related interests here in this group? > > > > That's the group I prefer. > > Please don't get emotional, Master. "And don't call me 'Master.' I'm not a Spanish person. I've never even been to Spain." Extra credit to anyone who can recognize the original quote I've adapted here. I left in a few clues. > > > > (1) Larger FPU/SIMD register set > >> > >> BTW, anyone of you using AMD PC? :) > > > > Mr. Man-wai Chang, are we still taking about C the programming language? > > I saw registers. I see skies of blue. And clouds of white. The bright blessed day. The dark sacred night. And I think to myself: What a wonderful world. > Aren't they related to CPU architecture? Yes. And in the same way ham is related to a ham sandwich. > Then could we extend the chat to AMD vs Intel CPUs? Well of course we could, but were we to do so your hypocrisy would start glowing. Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin
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| From | "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-16 01:14 +0800 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Output of C compilers and CPU architectures |
| Message-ID | <o0ffoh$a25$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #96611 |
On 16/11/2016 1:02 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > > "And don't call me 'Master.' I'm not a Spanish person. I've never even > been to Spain." No, I was referring to Star Wars, Master. :) > I see skies of blue. And clouds of white. The bright blessed day. > The dark sacred night. And I think to myself: What a wonderful > world. Were you impressed and cursed by this song? :) >> I saw registers. >> Aren't they related to CPU architecture? > > Yes. And in the same way ham is related to a ham sandwich. > >> Then could we extend the chat to AMD vs Intel CPUs? > > Well of course we could, but were we to do so your hypocrisy would > start glowing. I will start a new topic about this, so as not to *pollute* this thread. :)
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| From | "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-15 09:24 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Output of C compilers and CPU architectures |
| Message-ID | <a7206736-1a5f-4a96-a0d8-eef7dba74da5@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #96613 |
On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 at 12:14:33 PM UTC-5, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: > On 16/11/2016 1:02 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > > > > "And don't call me 'Master.' I'm not a Spanish person. I've never even > > been to Spain." > > No, I was referring to Star Wars, Master. :) Well ... you have no cause to call me "Master." For I am not a master, but am a consistent student. I shall remain so, I presume, until the day I depart this world. > > I see skies of blue. And clouds of white. The bright blessed day. > > The dark sacred night. And I think to myself: What a wonderful > > world. > > Were you impressed and cursed by this song? :) I laughed. I cried. It became a part of me. Actually, I look out across the world and even here in the midst of all the destruction from sin and death, the beautify of God's intended creation remains. In butterflies, flowers, birds, aquatic life, and even in each of us. Consider the design required to make a human's arm work as flawlessly as a human's arm works. We don't have the technology today to create prosthetic limbs, yet even the tiniest baby has this grand masterpiece of engineering. So yes, such things affect me in a multitude of ways when I step back and consider them richly. > >> I saw registers. > >> Aren't they related to CPU architecture? > > > > Yes. And in the same way ham is related to a ham sandwich. > > > >> Then could we extend the chat to AMD vs Intel CPUs? > > > > Well of course we could, but were we to do so your hypocrisy would > > start glowing. > > I will start a new topic about this, so as not to *pollute* this thread. :) You seem to do that a lot. I am reminded of Ramine. Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin
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| From | "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-16 01:27 +0800 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Output of C compilers and CPU architectures |
| Message-ID | <o0fggj$dr0$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #96615 |
On 16/11/2016 1:24 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > Well ... you have no cause to call me "Master." For I am not a master, > but am a consistent student. I shall remain so, I presume, until the > day I depart this world. Everyone can be an eternal student, Master. There is no end to learning, as time and space changes. :) >> >> I will start a new topic about this, so as not to *pollute* this thread. :) > > You seem to do that a lot. I am reminded of Ramine. That's why I called you "Master". I just don't understand the extended chat here, as it goes *PHILOSOPHICAL*! :)
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| From | Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-14 21:49 +0300 |
| Message-ID | <20161114214916.211d610fa3d7b3a0ad2e3abc@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #96539 |
Rick C. Hodgin: > Niklaus Wirth's "Algorithms + Data Structures = > Programs" and Jan van de Snepscheut "What Comput- > ing is All About" are also nice resources for > learning how to create compilers. Wirth has written a book titled "Compiler construc- tion": http://www.ethoberon.ethz.ch/WirthPubl/CBEAll.pdf -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ http://preview.tinyurl.com/qcy6mjc [archived]
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| From | "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-14 11:02 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <365fa733-ae4b-4b78-840d-e05f58b18631@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #96556 |
On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 1:49:23 PM UTC-5, Anton Shepelev wrote: > Rick C. Hodgin: > > > Niklaus Wirth's "Algorithms + Data Structures = > > Programs" and Jan van de Snepscheut "What Comput- > > ing is All About" are also nice resources for > > learning how to create compilers. > > Wirth has written a book titled "Compiler construc- > tion": > > http://www.ethoberon.ethz.ch/WirthPubl/CBEAll.pdf Thank you, sir! Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin
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| From | Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-14 21:37 +0300 |
| Message-ID | <20161114213756.688ca0970b71f5984afb42ac@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #96532 |
Mr. Man-wai Chang: > Is it called Tiny C Compiler? is it still alive, and well? :) There is also neatcc by a Muslim programmer: http://litcave.rudi.ir/ Its full source is about 178 Kb. This compiler implements "a large subset of ANSI C" and has optimisations. -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ http://preview.tinyurl.com/qcy6mjc [archived]
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| From | "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-15 18:07 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <o0emnl$em4$6@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #96554 |
On 15/11/2016 2:37 AM, Anton Shepelev wrote: > Mr. Man-wai Chang: > >> Is it called Tiny C Compiler? is it still alive, and well? :) > > There is also neatcc by a Muslim programmer: > http://litcave.rudi.ir/ I read that page. Too many extra functions to be consider "simplest". It's trying to do a lot of things.
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| From | "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-15 20:15 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <o0eu8r$8sa$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #96554 |
On 15/11/2016 2:37 AM, Anton Shepelev wrote: > > Its full source is about 178 Kb. This compiler implements > "a large subset of ANSI C" and has optimisations. Can a compiler rely on another compiler and then on even more compilers, like a stack of cards if not dead bodies, to claim as being the simplest and smallest? :)
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