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| From | Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c |
| Subject | Re: Why C has Pointers. |
| Date | 2011-12-27 23:00 -0800 |
| Organization | None to speak of |
| Message-ID | <lnr4zpyyda.fsf@nuthaus.mib.org> (permalink) |
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ralph <nt_consulting64@yahoo.net> writes:
> On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 15:08:05 -0800, Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org>
> wrote:
>>I get the impression that you're yielding on this point because of the
>>number of people who disagree with you. I'd prefer to think that you
>>understand the argument we're making. (If you change your mind, we'll
>>*all* be right!)
>>
>>Or maybe I'm just beating a dead horse.
>
> For the moment yes, that is exactly what I'm (we're) doing. ha
>
> I think I understand what you are trying to say, at least recognize
> the "C-Legalese", but unable to distinguish the subtleties in
> difference between what I'm saying and what you guys are saying.
In the particular case we're talking about, the difference is that
you're using a kind of pointer arithmetic that quite simply is not the
way pointer arithmetic works in C. Do you not understand that?
> [I mean, (among other things), as long as anyone refers to the "arr"
> in an array declaration as a "pointer" when it is obviously a literal
> constant - I'm likely to stay confused.]
Can you show a concrete example of C code that illustrates what you're
referring to here? There are a number of things that
the "arr" in an array declaration
could mean, and I honestly have no idea which one you're talking about.
> I've always had trouble understanding code lawyers. C for me has been
> mostly pragmatic, visual (yeah, I like to draw little memory boxes,
> data sections, registers, and arrows <g>), and intuitive over the last
> 30 years. I know that we aren't that fundamentally different - since
> we both likely write the same code. We just use different words to
> describe what we wrote.
>
> Well, I done just about everything else in C , have some time on my
> hands, so perhaps it is time to really read the standard. That will
> likely take a few days. (ok a few weeks, ... months? <g>) Then maybe
> that "arr" will turn into a pointer.
I suggest reading section 6 of the comp.lang.c FAQ, <http://c-faq.com>.
It has the best explanation I've seen of the relationship between arrays
and pointers in C.
--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Will write code for food.
"We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this."
-- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"
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