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Re: Switching to C#

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From Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c, comp.lang.c++
Subject Re: Switching to C#
Date Sun, 16 Jun 2019 14:24:07 -0700
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nobody@example.org (Scott) writes:
> On Sun, 16 Jun 2019 02:24:25 -0700, Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org>
> wrote:
>>nobody@example.org (Scott) writes:
>>> On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 19:31:13 -0700, Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>>nobody@example.org (Scott) writes:
>>> Apparently not a fatal one. gcc 7.4 with -std=c99 warns, but builds it
>>> anyway.
>>
>>As I said, it's a constraint violation.  That means that a conforming
>>compiler must issue a diagnostic message.  It's not required to be
>>fatal.  In fact the only construct that required a fatal error is the
>>"#error" directive.  (I personally wish gcc were more strict, but that's
>>a whole 'nother kettle of fish.)
>>
>>The lesson is that warnings from C compilers should be taken *very*
>>seriously.
>>
>>"gcc -std=c99 -pedantic" results in a fatal error.
>
> Hmm. Which gcc are you using? Mine (7.4.0) still gives a warning with
> those flags. -pedantic-errors does give an error as I expected. I'm
> not saying you're wrong, I'm just curious why we're seeing different
> results with the same experiment.
>
> The source snippet I used is this:
>
> int main(void) { return 45 != foo("Hello", 2.5, 45); }
> int foo(char *x, double y, int z) { return z; }

Sorry, I messed that up.

"gcc -std=c99" should correctly compile all correct C99 programs.

"gcc -std=c99 -pedantic" should do the same and issue all required
diagnostics.  In this mode, it should be a conforming C99 compiler.

"gcc -std=c99 -pedantic-errors" turns all required diagnostics into
fatal errors.

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org  <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Will write code for food.
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */

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            Re: Switching to C# "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2019-06-14 14:24 -0400
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              Re: Switching to C# nobody@example.org (Scott) - 2019-06-16 08:20 +0000
                Re: Switching to C# Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-06-16 02:24 -0700
                Re: Switching to C# nobody@example.org (Scott) - 2019-06-16 17:03 +0000
                Re: Switching to C# Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-06-16 14:24 -0700
                Re: Switching to C# nobody@example.org (Scott) - 2019-06-17 03:02 +0000
            Re: Switching to C# Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-06-16 10:54 +0200
              Re: Switching to C# Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-06-16 02:26 -0700
                Re: Switching to C# Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-06-16 12:43 +0200
                Re: Switching to C# nobody@example.org (Scott) - 2019-06-16 17:05 +0000
                Re: Switching to C# Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2019-06-16 14:26 -0700
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