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| From | James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> |
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| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c |
| Subject | Re: In how many ways should this fail? |
| Date | 2012-02-01 08:14 -0500 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
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On 02/01/2012 06:57 AM, BartC wrote: ... > I'm talking about C. But also about the fact that, for a supposedly simple > language, it's grammar is complex (13 or 14 levels to define an expression > for example). And far from making things unambiguous, sometimes has the > opposite effect! (See the posts about ?: followed by an assignment). There is no ambiguity in the C standard about how "a ? b : c = d" should be parseed. There was some confusion about what the standard actually says about this, (confusion to which I initially contributed), but no one has suggested that there's two or more different ways to interpret what it does say. > To put it another way, if I was writing a C-syntax parser, I wouldn't bother > trying to use the grammar. One of the strengths of C, IMO, is that there's a great many ways in which things you really shouldn't be doing are detected as such because they are syntax errors. There's plenty of room for improvement in that area, but your approach would be a move in the wrong direction. ... > BTW any C compilers with extensions, probably cannot use the grammar as > given anyway. Most certainly do, as a starting point and foundation upon which the extensions are built. -- James Kuyper
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Re: In how many ways should this fail? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-01-30 11:07 -0500
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Re: In how many ways should this fail? "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-01-30 16:43 +0000
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Re: In how many ways should this fail? "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-01-31 17:37 +0000
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Re: In how many ways should this fail? "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-01-31 17:39 +0000
Re: In how many ways should this fail? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-01-31 19:42 -0800
Re: In how many ways should this fail? "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-02-01 11:57 +0000
Re: In how many ways should this fail? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-02-01 08:14 -0500
Re: In how many ways should this fail? Philip Lantz <prl@canterey.us> - 2012-02-01 00:04 -0800
Re: In how many ways should this fail? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-01-31 09:05 -0500
Re: In how many ways should this fail? Devil with the China Blue Dress <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2012-01-31 06:45 -0800
Re: In how many ways should this fail? "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-01-31 17:34 +0000
Re: In how many ways should this fail? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-01-31 19:26 -0800
Re: In how many ways should this fail? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-01-31 19:29 -0800
Re: In how many ways should this fail? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-01-30 21:28 +0000
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Re: In how many ways should this fail? Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2012-01-30 17:21 +0000
Re: In how many ways should this fail? Anders Wegge Keller <wegge@wegge.dk> - 2012-01-30 19:22 +0100
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Re: In how many ways should this fail? jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-01-30 19:04 +0100
Re: In how many ways should this fail? "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-01-30 18:21 +0000
Re: In how many ways should this fail? Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-01-30 20:15 +0100
Re: In how many ways should this fail? "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-01-30 19:32 +0000
Re: In how many ways should this fail? Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-01-30 21:01 +0100
Re: In how many ways should this fail? "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-01-30 20:22 +0000
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