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Re: Even more problems with lcc-win

From Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: Even more problems with lcc-win
Date 2017-04-09 13:54 +1200
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On 04/ 9/17 09:28 AM, bartc wrote:
> On 08/04/2017 15:27, David Brown wrote:
>> On 08/04/17 14:33, bartc wrote:
>
>> You think that, because first you don't understand the sort of
>> optimisations that can be done at link-time (without considering
>> link-time code generation), and secondly, you don't understand about
>> scaling.
>
> May I remind you of that 1Mloc test a month or two back?

One big file isn't scaling, many smaller files being worked on by many 
developers is.

For a team size > 1 the single big file approach is totally impractical.

> It seems to me actually that small, fast tools are of much more benefit
> for big applications than big cumbersome ones.

The terms "small, fast" and "big cumbersome" are relative.  For most of 
us the compilers we use are small and fast enough for what we do.  Sure 
they could be faster, but I for one value the quality and scope of 
diagnostics from a compiler over speed (which is why I prefer clang 
these days, especially for C++).  A simple, fast compiler that lacks 
decent diagnostics would, in the context of a development project, be 
slower than a slower compiler with better diagnostics.

> After all, if you need to test an app thousands of times, how many of
> those tests needs to be at the maximum possible speed with the best
> possible code?

Hardly any, but you still have to link which is often the bottleneck on 
a large project.

>> People compile and
>> then link.
>
> I've also used compile and link. But whenever I've had to create my own
> tools, they're always much faster and effortless than any of those
> professional ones. Funny that.

So how long do they take to cross-compile and link a kernel?  A sort 
while back that is what I was doing many times a day...

>    For larger projects, especially with link-time code
>> generation, they will also do partial links - combining bits of files
>> and doing some cross-module optimisation, so that less work needs to be
>> repeated when changing the source for parts of the project.
>
> Is optimisation of this kind really essential for every single build?

No, but with decent incremental linker you may as well do it.

> I remember writing graphics code - if an element didn't look quite
> right, I would edit-compile-run until it looked better. For that purpose
> you want a near-instant edit-compile-run cycle, and you aren't
> interested in optimisation.

For a project where that is viable, just about any modern tool set would 
be plenty fast enough.

-- 
Ian

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                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-03-29 13:23 +0000
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-03-28 21:29 +0200
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-03-28 20:47 +0100
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                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2017-03-29 00:53 +0200
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-03-29 02:00 +0100
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                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-03-29 22:36 +0200
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                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-04-03 17:45 +0000
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                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-03-30 13:38 +0200
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2017-03-30 14:21 +0200
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                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win me <crisdunbar@gmail.com> - 2017-03-30 17:53 -0700
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 11:34 +0200
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-03-30 12:35 +0200
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win mertesthomas@gmail.com - 2017-03-30 04:38 -0700
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-03-30 13:14 +0100
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-03-30 14:38 +0200
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-03-31 08:52 +1300
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-04-02 13:58 +0000
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-04-02 17:02 +0200
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-04-03 17:50 +0000
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-04-03 23:10 +0200
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-03 07:20 +1200
                Optimized? (Was: Even more problems with lcc-win) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2017-04-02 19:39 +0000
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-04-02 15:59 -0400
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-04-02 14:11 -0700
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-03 17:08 +1200
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-04-03 13:42 +0000
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-03-30 13:06 +0100
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-03-30 14:58 +0200
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-03-30 14:50 +0100
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-03-30 16:27 +0200
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-03-30 16:57 +0100
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win mertesthomas@gmail.com - 2017-03-30 14:31 -0700
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-03-28 15:54 -0500
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-03-28 08:07 -0700
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win gordonb.uls6t@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt) - 2017-03-29 18:17 -0500
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-03-30 19:20 +0100
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-03-30 18:49 +0000
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-03-30 20:07 +0100
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win gordonb.b709o@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt) - 2017-04-16 03:45 -0500
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-04-16 16:34 +0100
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2017-04-16 20:27 +0200
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-04-16 12:16 -0700
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-17 02:29 -0500
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-03-27 19:01 -0400
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-03-25 21:45 +0000
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2017-03-25 23:19 +0100
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-03-25 19:10 -0400
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2017-03-26 00:54 +0100
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2017-03-25 19:48 -0700
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win mertesthomas@gmail.com - 2017-03-26 05:12 -0700
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-03-26 14:00 -0700
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win gordonb.zdxct@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt) - 2017-03-27 02:03 -0500
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-03-24 22:39 -0500
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2017-03-25 09:13 +0100
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-03-25 11:24 +0000
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-03-26 08:42 +1300
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-03-25 19:51 +0000
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-03-26 09:10 +1300
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-03-25 20:24 +0000
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-03-25 13:43 -0700
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-03-26 10:30 +1300
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win Jean-Marc Bourguet <jm@bourguet.org> - 2017-03-26 10:23 +0200
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-03-24 15:08 -0700
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-03-24 22:43 +0000
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-03-24 15:55 -0700
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-03-24 16:27 -0700
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2017-03-25 01:17 +0100
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2017-03-25 01:18 +0100
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-03-27 15:06 +0000
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-03-27 16:37 +0100
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-03-27 16:25 +0000
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-03-27 17:57 +0000
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-03-27 19:12 +0100
                Re: Even more problems with lcc-win Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-03-27 14:19 -0500
              Re: Even more problems with lcc-win David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-03-24 19:25 +0100
          Re: Even more problems with lcc-win supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-03-24 08:10 -0700
    Re: Even more problems with lcc-win scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-03-24 13:01 +0000
      Re: Even more problems with lcc-win David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-03-24 15:50 +0100
  Re: Even more problems with lcc-win David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-03-24 13:07 +0100
    Re: Even more problems with lcc-win jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2017-03-24 15:48 +0100
      Re: Even more problems with lcc-win David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-03-24 16:26 +0100
        Re: Even more problems with lcc-win Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2017-03-24 16:32 +0000
          Re: Even more problems with lcc-win James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-03-24 12:53 -0400
            Re: Even more problems with lcc-win jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2017-03-24 18:24 +0100
              Re: Even more problems with lcc-win scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-03-24 17:29 +0000
              Re: Even more problems with lcc-win jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2017-03-24 10:55 -0700
        Re: Even more problems with lcc-win supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-03-24 10:47 -0700
  Re: Even more problems with lcc-win Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-03-24 09:37 -0700
  Re: Even more problems with lcc-win Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2017-03-25 15:07 -0500
  Re: Even more problems with lcc-win mertesthomas@gmail.com - 2017-03-29 09:56 -0700
    Re: Even more problems with lcc-win supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-03-29 10:39 -0700
    Re: Even more problems with lcc-win Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-03-29 12:22 -0700
      Re: Even more problems with lcc-win mertesthomas@gmail.com - 2017-03-29 15:10 -0700
        Re: Even more problems with lcc-win Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-03-29 16:58 -0700
    Re: Even more problems with Seed7 jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2017-03-30 01:02 +0200
      Re: Even more problems with Seed7 Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-03-30 01:05 -0500
        Re: Even more problems with Seed7 Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-03-30 01:19 -0500
          Re: Even more problems with Seed7 mertesthomas@gmail.com - 2017-04-02 04:19 -0700
    Re: Even more problems with lcc-win mertesthomas@gmail.com - 2017-03-30 00:34 -0700
      Re: Even more problems with lcc-win David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-03-30 13:05 +0200
      Re: Even more problems with lcc-win jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2017-03-31 00:00 +0200
        Re: Even more problems with lcc-win mertesthomas@gmail.com - 2017-04-02 00:28 -0700
    Re: Even more problems with lcc-win mertesthomas@gmail.com - 2017-03-30 00:50 -0700

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