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In article <ja2tl5$bgu$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
jacob navia  <jacob@jspamsink.org> wrote:
> In the thread
> 
> "Deleting first N lines from a text file"
> 
> I published an answer to that problem using the C containers library.
> 
> I received (as is very often the case) an answer from an anonymous
> coward telling me
> 
> <quote>
> You self-celebrating fucko. There only exist your things to you:
> that silly lcc-win and your funny containers.
> <end quote>
> 
> I did not bother to answer.
> 
> The same anonymous coward sent an answer (with the same insults)
> to another thread where I asked for feedback on the gcc implementation
> for printf customization.
> 
> In that thread Seebs answered obviously NOT to condemn the insults
> but to add to them. Talking with the anonymous coward he wrote:
> 
> <quote from seebs>
> I have Mr. Navia plonked because of his habit of random and unjustified
> flames, so I thank you for calling that post to my attention
> <end quote>

Um.  But then he goes on to say ....  Well, here's the whole paragraph:

>I have Mr. Navia plonked because of his habit of random and unjustified
>flames, so I thank you for calling that post to my attention, since it has
>some cool ideas in a field I have previously thought about.  I even got
>as far as a test implementation of a printf which let you pass formatting
>functions as arguments, although I never got around to a "register new
>characters" feature.

I understood Seebs to be thanking *someone* (perhaps the one insulting
you, perhaps someone upthread) for calling his attention to your post
because it (your post) contained something he found interesting.  So,
not a pile-on insult at all.  

> So, in the logic of this person (seebs), insulting me as "self-
> celebrating fucko" is a motive to answer him a "THANK YOU".
> 
> And in the same sentence he writes about "unjustified flames" I would
> start. Unjustified of course.

You do realize that you're just providing more evidence here that you
are quick to take offense, sometimes where perhaps none was intended?

> This tactic (The victim is responsible, if you get insulted and you do
> not accept those insults in silence it is YOUR fault) is the same in
> the other "regulars" that infest this group, Kicki, Seebs, and all others.
> 
> To avoid being too obvious, Seebs quoted the anonymous troll but
> *snipped the insults away*.
> 
> This anonymous posts are obviously done by Kicki, seebs, and others
> to avoid consequences and having the "pleasure" of insulting without
> having to face any consequences.
> 
> This "character assassination" campaigns is similar to the one
> he started against a book author some years ago.
> 
> What can you do to stop this?
> 
> This people thrive on the silence of the other members of
> this discussion group, and live only in this discussion
> group. They are unable to do anything productive (Seebs
> has never published anything, 

A quick Google search on "Peter Seebach" suggests otherwise --
unless you have in mind some definition of "publish" that doesn't
include books?

> neither Kicki, 

Contrast this with Seebs's "Mr. Navia".  Which one sounds more
civil?

> or any other
> of those people) but they are able to insult the ones that
> propose technical solutions like my container library or
> my compiler system.

(I wasn't going to respond, since I notice that at least one
other person has made pretty much the same points I'm making,
but I also notice that apparently at least one other person
agrees with your assessment, so rather than being a lurker
who supports, and not even in e-mail ....  Two cents' worth.)

-- 
B. L. Massingill
ObDisclaimer:  I don't speak for my employers; they return the favor.

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Hypocrites jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2011-11-17 13:11 +0100
  Re: Hypocrites jgharston <jgh@arcade.demon.co.uk> - 2011-11-17 05:13 -0800
  Re: Hypocrites Vincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it> - 2011-11-17 14:17 +0100
    Re: Hypocrites Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> - 2011-11-17 18:48 +0000
  Re: Hypocrites Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2011-11-17 06:14 -0800
    Re: Hypocrites gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2011-11-17 14:33 +0000
  Re: Hypocrites Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-17 05:47 -0800
    Re: Hypocrites Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-17 07:51 -0800
    Re: Hypocrites Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> - 2011-11-17 18:48 +0000
  Re: Hypocrites blmblm@myrealbox.com <blmblm.myrealbox@gmail.com> - 2011-11-17 15:58 +0000
    Re: Hypocrites BruceS <bruces42@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-17 11:49 -0800
      Re: Hypocrites gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2011-11-17 21:40 +0000
        Re: Hypocrites BruceS <bruces42@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-17 14:14 -0800
  Re: Hypocrites Oliver Jackson <chexmofo@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-17 09:37 -0800
  Re: Hypocrites Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-18 09:26 +1300
    Re: Hypocrites Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-18 16:43 +0200
      Re: Hypocrites Acid Washed China Blue Jeans <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2011-11-18 11:12 -0800
  Re: Hypocrites Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> - 2011-11-17 16:51 -0800
  Re: Hypocrites nroberts <roberts.noah@gmail.com> - 2011-11-18 08:41 -0800

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