Re: Fread problem

From	Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.c
Subject	Re: Fread problem
Date	2011-07-18 09:09 +1200
Message-ID	<98h1eoFft1U3@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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On 07/18/11 09:06 AM, James Kuyper wrote:
> On 07/17/2011 04:45 PM, Jack wrote:
>> On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 14:57:13 -0600, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
> ....
>>> That's not a fix.  Your underlying bug is still present; your code is
>>> still broken.  Anything from adding a new line of code to a new compiler
>>> version to a new version of libc to slightly different input than what
>>> you've tested on so far could make it manifest again at any time.
>>
>> I sure do understand the point everyone's making, and in an ideal world
>> I'd get right to the heart of this bug. BUT... the customer pays for
>> their support contract annually in advance, any time we have to spend on
>> maintenance from that contract is just a cost to our company, so we get
>> strong pressure from management to get quick 'n' easy fixes out the door.
>
> You do understand, I hope, that your "quick 'n' easy fix" may have
> indeed been quick and easy, but is not a fix? That this customer, or
> perhaps other customers, will come back in the future asking for a fix
> to the problem that you failed to fix?

It's probably worse than that.  The bug still exists, but the symptoms 
will have moved.  So rather than an obvious failure, they'll probably 
end up with either random crashes or silent data corruption.  Nice.

-- 
Ian Collins

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Fread problem Jack <spamtrap@trashcan.invalid> - 2011-07-15 20:56 +0000
  Re: Fread problem Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-07-16 09:05 +1200
    Re: Fread problem Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2011-07-19 13:41 +0200
  Re: Fread problem John Gordon <gordon@panix.com> - 2011-07-15 21:43 +0000
    Re: Fread problem Jack <spamtrap@trashcan.invalid> - 2011-07-16 09:22 +0000
      Re: Fread problem Dr Nick <3-nospam@temporary-address.org.uk> - 2011-07-16 10:25 +0100
        Re: Fread problem Jack <spamtrap@trashcan.invalid> - 2011-07-16 20:23 +0000
          Re: Fread problem Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-07-17 08:37 +1200
          Re: Fread problem John Gordon <gordon@panix.com> - 2011-07-16 20:46 +0000
            Re: Fread problem James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2011-07-16 18:29 -0400
              Re: Fread problem John Gordon <gordon@panix.com> - 2011-07-16 23:14 +0000
          Re: Fread problem Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2011-07-16 16:55 -0400
            Re: Fread problem blmblm@myrealbox.com <blmblm.myrealbox@gmail.com> - 2011-07-19 17:17 +0000
              [OT] Re: Fread problem Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2011-07-19 20:11 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: Fread problem Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> - 2011-07-20 02:27 +0000
          Re: Fread problem Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2011-07-16 14:57 -0600
            Re: Fread problem Jack <spamtrap@trashcan.invalid> - 2011-07-17 20:45 +0000
              Re: Fread problem Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-07-18 08:50 +1200
              Re: Fread problem James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2011-07-17 17:06 -0400
                Re: Fread problem Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-07-18 09:09 +1200
                Re: Fread problem Hans Vlems <hvlems@freenet.de> - 2011-07-18 13:01 -0700
              Re: Fread problem Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2011-07-17 16:06 -0600
              Re: Fread problem Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> - 2011-07-17 17:56 -0700
                Re: Fread problem Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> - 2011-07-18 04:08 +0000
                Re: Fread problem Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> - 2011-07-17 22:08 -0700
                Re: Fread problem Jack <spamtrap@trashcan.invalid> - 2011-07-18 20:20 +0000
                Re: Fread problem Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-07-19 08:50 +1200
                Re: Fread problem Cat 22 <cat22@invalid.org> - 2011-07-18 18:34 -0700
                Re: Fread problem James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2011-07-19 07:19 -0400
                Re: Fread problem Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2011-07-19 09:31 -0500
              Re: Fread problem Todd Carnes <toddcarnes@gmail.com> - 2011-07-18 04:23 +0000
              Re: Fread problem Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2011-07-18 01:15 -0700
              Re: Fread problem Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2011-07-18 07:22 -0400
                Re: Fread problem Kenneth Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2011-07-18 13:56 -0400
              Re: Fread problem Kenneth Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2011-07-18 13:49 -0400
                Re: Fread problem Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2011-07-18 20:31 -0400
                Re: Fread problem Squeamizh <squeamz@hotmail.com> - 2011-07-18 21:11 -0700
              Re: Fread problem blmblm@myrealbox.com <blmblm.myrealbox@gmail.com> - 2011-07-19 17:19 +0000
                Re: Fread problem Kenneth Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2011-07-19 14:18 -0400
                Re: Fread problem pete <pfiland@mindspring.com> - 2011-07-19 15:19 -0400
                Re: Fread problem blmblm@myrealbox.com <blmblm.myrealbox@gmail.com> - 2011-07-19 21:33 +0000
          Re: Fread problem Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> - 2011-07-16 14:27 -0700
            Re: Fread problem John Gordon <gordon@panix.com> - 2011-07-16 22:22 +0000
          Re: Fread problem "Kleuskes & Moos" <kleuske@xs4all.nl> - 2011-07-16 23:28 -0700
          Re: Fread problem "J. J. Farrell" <jjf@bcs.org.uk> - 2011-07-18 04:58 +0100
          Re: Fread problem Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-07-18 08:53 -0700
            Re: Fread problem Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2011-07-18 18:07 +0100
              Re: Fread problem Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-07-18 12:50 -0700
            Re: Fread problem Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2011-07-18 12:18 -0600
            Re: Fread problem John Gordon <gordon@panix.com> - 2011-07-18 20:18 +0000
              Re: Fread problem Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-07-18 13:28 -0700
                Re: Fread problem Lew Pitcher <lpitcher@teksavvy.com> - 2011-07-18 16:55 -0400
              Re: Fread problem Anders Wegge Keller <wegge@wegge.dk> - 2011-07-18 22:51 +0200
            Re: Fread problem blmblm@myrealbox.com <blmblm.myrealbox@gmail.com> - 2011-07-19 17:21 +0000
          Re: Fread problem Kenneth Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2011-07-18 13:44 -0400
      Re: Fread problem Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-07-16 21:39 +1200
      Re: Fread problem Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2011-07-16 12:18 -0600
      Re: Fread problem John Gordon <gordon@panix.com> - 2011-07-16 19:36 +0000

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