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| From | Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c |
| Subject | Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) |
| Date | 2017-06-19 20:51 +0100 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <87h8zbdadp.fsf@bsb.me.uk> (permalink) |
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Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> writes: > On 19/06/17 17:35, Ben Bacarisse wrote: >> Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> writes: >> >>> On 19/06/17 00:16, Ben Bacarisse wrote: >>>> Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> writes: >>>> >>>>> On 18/06/17 14:49, Ben Bacarisse wrote: >>>>>> Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> writes: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 18/06/17 02:50, Christopher wrote: >>>>>> <snip> >>>>>>>> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bwx0lG_v1tcONExSejZWMGJaMUU/view?usp=sharing> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The "Hot Tip" is wrong. The stdio.h header contains no functions at >>>>>>> all. >>>>>> >>>>>> How do you know that stdio.h contains no functions at all? >>>>> >>>> <snip> >>>>> If we're talking about the standard stdio.h it has to work in the >>>>> following situation: >> <snip example> >>>> What about static inline functions? >>> >>> Here is the text I was complaining about: "All the standard functions >>> for file input/output are contained in the stdio.h header file." Note >>> the word "all". >> >> And here is the text I was complaining about: "The stdio.h header >> contains no functions at all". Note the phrase "no functions at all". > > I stand by that. I accept that the Standard does not require it, but I > still think it's a true statement. OK (though I think it's not always true, of course). Maybe I misunderstood your reply to my asking how you knew that. It seemed technical rather than pragmatic. <snip> >> but, >> no, I am not suggesting that. I am only suggesting that it's a stretch >> to say that it contains no functions at all. > > I don't think so. But if you have a counter-example from a real > implementation, I'll gladly retract and apologise. The stdio.h on my Ubuntu system appears to define a number of inline functions (but not static inline ones, presumably for the reason Tim pointed out). No doubt there is more fun to be had with the meaning of "contains" because they are defined by including another header. >>> Maybe King, or Deitel & Deitel. And maybe K&R 2. It would have been >>> good to be able to extend the list to include this Beck chap, but on >>> current showing I can't see any way that I would recommend his work. >> >> Hmm... that's more than 140 pounds worth of books. I suspect there's a >> opening for an inexpensive C programming book. > > Alas, this seems to be one of those cases where, from GOOD and CHEAP, > you can pick only one (at most). So it seems. Odd though, because the cost of making a book is not obviously linked to it's quality. I suppose publishers just charge more when they know it's a good 'un. -- Ben.
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What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Christopher <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-06-17 23:59 -0100
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-06-17 17:51 -0700
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Christopher <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-06-18 00:00 -0100
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-06-17 21:32 -0400
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Christopher <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-06-18 00:50 -0100
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-06-18 03:40 +0100
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2017-06-18 11:48 +0200
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-06-18 13:13 +0100
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2017-06-18 16:20 +0100
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-06-18 14:49 +0100
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-06-18 15:46 +0100
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-06-19 00:16 +0100
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-06-19 05:37 +0100
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-06-19 09:25 -0700
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-06-19 17:35 +0100
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-06-19 18:19 +0100
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-06-19 20:51 +0100
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-06-19 21:16 +0100
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-06-19 04:58 -0700
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-06-19 17:43 +0100
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-06-19 22:16 -0700
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-06-20 11:53 +0100
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-06-20 22:45 -0700
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Good Guy <hello.world@example.com> - 2017-06-18 18:17 +0100
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-06-18 18:20 +0100
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-06-18 18:27 +0100
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2017-06-20 11:11 +0200
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-06-20 10:27 +0100
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-06-20 10:54 +0100
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2017-06-20 12:25 +0200
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-06-20 12:34 +0100
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2017-06-20 05:37 -0700
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-06-20 14:11 +0100
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-06-20 14:35 +0100
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-06-18 17:30 +0000
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-06-18 21:21 +0100
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-06-18 21:23 +0100
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-06-18 21:47 +0100
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2017-06-18 17:01 -0400
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-06-19 10:41 -0400
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-06-18 21:50 +0100
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-06-18 13:52 -0700
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2017-06-20 11:16 +0200
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-06-26 15:54 +0000
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2017-06-18 17:13 -0400
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2017-06-18 17:17 -0400
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-06-18 15:14 -0700
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2017-06-18 18:24 -0400
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-06-19 04:11 -0700
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-06-18 23:01 +0100
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-06-17 19:55 -0700
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Christopher <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-06-18 02:10 -0100
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-06-18 04:15 +0100
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-06-18 08:31 +0000
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Good Guy <hello.world@example.com> - 2017-06-18 18:28 +0100
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-06-18 11:25 -0700
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-06-18 19:13 +0000
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-06-18 14:30 -0700
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-06-18 23:04 +0100
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-06-18 10:43 +0200
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-06-18 10:33 -0400
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-06-19 01:27 +0200
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-06-18 21:16 -0400
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-18 13:45 +1200
Re: What is the difference between (r+ and w+) Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-06-17 19:05 -0700
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