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Re: [OT] Bashing on autotools (Was: Building a sample application with libraries located in nonstandard directory)

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ec429 <ec429@cam.ac.uk> writes:

> On 07/01/12 21:24, Seebs wrote:
>> On 2012-01-07, Kaz Kylheku<kaz@kylheku.com>  wrote:
>>> Autoconf is a braindamaged pile of crap designed by imbeciles, but naive
>>> developers keep trusting that it will take care of their build problems
>>> somehow.
>>
>> This is unduly harsh.  Autoconf is not nearly as stupid as it looks; it's just
>> that 90% of the things it does which look stupid are only sensible if you
>> assume that it matters whether stuff builds on Ultrix or SVR2.  Which most of
>> the stuff using it wouldn't anyway.
>>
>> (Not really C-related directly, but many C programmers get stuck trying to
>> outsmart autoconf.)
>>
>> -s
> Or you can write POSIX-compliant code, refuse to support
> non-POSIX-compliant platforms, and chuck Autoconf in /dev/dustbin
> where it belongs.

Even then you need to do some of the things that Autoconf does - for
example when different versions of libraries have a different interface.

> Besides, even if you believe Autoconf's use case is valid, Autoconf is
> not a well-designed solution to that problem; simply put, it's hairy.

Agreed.  But it's something that is likely to be there and that can do
what you need doing (along with a lot of stuff you don't and never
will).
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Building a sample application with libraries located in nonstandard directory ArifulHossain tuhin <etothepowerpi@gmail.com> - 2012-01-07 03:26 -0800
  Re: Building a sample application with libraries located in nonstandard directory ec429 <ec429@cam.ac.uk> - 2012-01-07 14:15 +0000
    Re: Building a sample application with libraries located in nonstandard directory gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2012-01-07 16:26 +0000
    Re: Building a sample application with libraries located in nonstandard directory jt@toerring.de (Jens Thoms Toerring) - 2012-01-07 17:40 +0000
  Re: Building a sample application with libraries located in nonstandard directory Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2012-01-07 17:50 +0000
    Re: Building a sample application with libraries located in nonstandard directory Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> - 2012-01-07 21:24 +0000
      [OT] Bashing on autotools (Was: Building a sample application with libraries located in nonstandard directory) ec429 <ec429@cam.ac.uk> - 2012-01-08 05:19 +0000
        Re: [OT] Bashing on autotools (Was: Building a sample application with libraries located in nonstandard directory) Dr Nick <3-nospam@temporary-address.org.uk> - 2012-01-08 09:15 +0000
          Re: [OT] Bashing on autotools Markus Wichmann <nullplan@gmx.net> - 2012-01-08 23:09 +0100
            Re: [OT] Bashing on autotools Dr Nick <3-nospam@temporary-address.org.uk> - 2012-01-09 07:53 +0000
            Re: [OT] Bashing on autotools Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> - 2012-01-09 19:21 +0000
    Re: Building a sample application with libraries located in nonstandard directory falk@rahul.net (Edward A. Falk) - 2012-01-08 07:13 +0000
    Re: Building a sample application with libraries located in nonstandard directory ArifulHossain tuhin <etothepowerpi@gmail.com> - 2012-01-09 02:12 -0800
      Re: Building a sample application with libraries located in nonstandard directory Markus Wichmann <nullplan@gmx.net> - 2012-01-09 15:00 +0100

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