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Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!)

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Ben Bacarisse wrote:
> 
> mike3 <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> writes:
> 
> > On May 31, 5:39 pm, mike3 <mike4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On May 29, 11:44 pm, mike3 <mike4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > <snip>
> >
> > I've been wondering about this. _Why_ was a GOTO used in this
> > program? How could one be used in _such a high-profile program
> > like that_? And it's not just a lone GOTO or a few here and there,
> > as I said, this program is infected with a serious case of GOTOitis...
> 
> You'd have to ask the people who wrote it.
> 
> Some of the code looks extraordinary to me.  Whilst the vast majority of
> goto's are clearly of the "error cleanup" sort, they are not all like
> that.  For example there is this pattern:
> 
>         cmsgp = CMSG_FIRSTHDR(msg);
>         while (cmsgp != NULL) {
>                 socket_log(...);
> 
> #ifdef ISC_PLATFORM_HAVEIN6PKTINFO
>                 if (...) {
>                         /* stuff */
>                         goto next;
>                 }
> #endif
> 
> #ifdef SO_TIMESTAMP
>                 if (...) {
>                         /* stuff */
>                         goto next;
>                 }
> #endif
>         next:
>                 cmsgp = CMSG_NXTHDR(msg, cmsgp);
>         }
> 
> Why is this not just a for loop?
> Failing that, why not just remove the
> label and the goto's?  Maybe this is a fossilised relic of some much
> more complex code.
> 
> Although there may well be a reason
> the code ended up like this, I hope
> everyone agrees that it would be odd (to say the least)
> to write it like this from scratch.

It may be the case 
that it is, or was, somewhat common 
for expert proffesional programmers
to have accomplished a lot of proffesional programming work
before they became experts.

I recall many many years ago, 
showing some crappy looking code to my new boss,
and him telling me that because of time constraints
I would soon be writing crappy looking code too.
And he was right.
They hired me when they needed a programmer right away,
and I didn't know C or good writing style
nearly as well as I do now,
and because of time constraints, I had to program quickly.

-- 
pete

Thread

Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. mike3 <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-29 22:44 -0700
  Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Ike Naar <ike@sverige.freeshell.org> - 2012-05-30 06:38 +0000
  Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Nils M Holm <news2009@t3x.org> - 2012-05-30 06:57 +0000
  Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-05-30 00:52 -0700
    Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. mike3 <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-30 01:50 -0700
  Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. MarkBluemel <mark_bluemel@pobox.com> - 2012-05-30 09:55 +0100
    Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Willem <willem@toad.stack.nl> - 2012-05-30 09:18 +0000
      Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. tom st denis <tom@iahu.ca> - 2012-05-30 05:16 -0700
        Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Willem <willem@toad.stack.nl> - 2012-05-30 16:26 +0000
          Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. tom st denis <tom@iahu.ca> - 2012-06-01 08:05 -0700
            Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Willem <willem@toad.stack.nl> - 2012-06-03 11:24 +0000
          Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) - 2012-06-02 13:54 +0000
            Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Jean-Christophe <5.d@free.fr> - 2012-06-02 07:24 -0700
              Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) - 2012-06-02 16:37 +0000
                Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Jean-Christophe <5.d@free.fr> - 2012-06-02 12:46 -0700
            Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-06-02 15:42 +0100
              Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) - 2012-06-02 19:35 +0000
                Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-06-03 03:53 +0100
                Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-06-11 18:10 +0300
                Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-06-11 16:19 +0100
            Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Martin Shobe <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2012-06-02 19:27 +0000
              Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) - 2012-06-03 23:48 +0000
                Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-06-04 11:53 +1200
                Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Martin Shobe <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2012-06-04 03:32 +0000
    Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-05-30 07:25 -0700
    Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. falk@rahul.net (Edward A. Falk) - 2012-06-05 07:20 +0000
  Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-05-30 21:50 +1200
    Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-05-30 03:34 -0700
      Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-05-30 22:57 +1200
      Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Willem <willem@toad.stack.nl> - 2012-05-30 11:04 +0000
      Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-05-30 04:53 -0700
  Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-05-30 13:28 +0100
    Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. mike3 <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-30 13:57 -0700
  Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2012-05-30 15:19 +0200
    Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Mark Bluemel <mark.bluemel@googlemail.com> - 2012-05-31 01:10 -0700
    Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2012-06-02 17:34 +0200
      Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2012-06-03 10:33 +0200
  Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2012-05-30 13:56 +0000
    Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Kulin <remailer@reece.net.au> - 2012-05-30 17:29 +0000
  Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. ImpalerCore <jadill33@gmail.com> - 2012-05-30 07:13 -0700
    Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Thad Smith <ThadSmith@acm.org> - 2012-06-02 07:20 -0600
  Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-05-30 16:37 +0100
  Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Johann Klammer <klammerj@NOSPAM.a1.net> - 2012-05-30 19:05 +0200
  Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2012-05-31 13:19 -0700
    Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. mike3 <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-31 13:49 -0700
      Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-05-31 22:08 +0100
        Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. mike3 <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-31 16:08 -0700
      Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2012-05-31 17:34 -0700
      Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Willem <willem@toad.stack.nl> - 2012-06-01 07:40 +0000
  GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! (was Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc.) mike3 <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-31 16:39 -0700
    Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-06-01 03:21 +0100
      Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! mike3 <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> - 2012-06-01 03:49 -0700
        Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-06-02 02:15 +0100
          Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! mike3 <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> - 2012-06-01 19:45 -0700
            Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-06-02 15:00 +0100
              Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! mike3 <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> - 2012-06-02 16:44 -0700
                Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-06-03 03:51 +0100
      Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! "Aaron W.  Hsu" <arcfide@sacrideo.us> - 2012-06-01 12:06 -0400
        Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-06-02 02:01 +0100
          Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! mike3 <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> - 2012-06-01 19:46 -0700
            Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! mike3 <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> - 2012-06-01 21:19 -0700
              Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! blmblm@myrealbox.com <blmblm.myrealbox@gmail.com> - 2012-06-02 16:35 +0000
            Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-06-02 14:50 +0100
            Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-06-02 07:04 -0700
          Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! "Aaron W. Hsu" <arcfide@sacrideo.us> - 2012-06-02 04:37 -0500
            Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! mike3 <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> - 2012-06-02 03:40 -0700
              Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-06-02 14:46 +0100
                Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-06-02 17:10 +0100
                Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2012-06-02 11:35 -0500
    Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! (was Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc.) "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-06-02 09:46 +0100
      Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! (was Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc.) "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2012-06-03 10:43 +0200
        Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! (was Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc.) "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-06-03 10:58 +0100
          Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! (was Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc.) "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2012-06-03 17:18 +0200
          Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! (was Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc.) jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) - 2012-06-04 20:40 +0000
            Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! (was Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc.) jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) - 2012-06-05 01:03 +0000
              Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2012-06-04 21:36 -0600
                Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) - 2012-06-05 15:13 +0000
              Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! (was Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc.) Ike Naar <ike@sverige.freeshell.org> - 2012-06-05 08:12 +0000
                Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! (was Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc.) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-06-05 06:00 -0400
            Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! (was Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc.) jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) - 2012-06-05 02:05 +0000
              Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! (was Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc.) Martin Shobe <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2012-06-05 03:16 +0000
        Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! (was Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc.) "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2012-06-03 17:30 +0200
          Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! (was Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc.) Jean-Christophe <5.d@free.fr> - 2012-06-03 09:02 -0700
            Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! (was Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc.) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-06-03 22:37 +0100
              Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! (was Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc.) Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2012-06-04 07:28 +0000
              Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! (was Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc.) Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2012-06-08 01:28 -0700
    Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) mike3 <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> - 2012-06-06 02:54 -0700
      Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-06-06 13:14 +0100
        Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) pete <pfiland@mindspring.com> - 2012-06-06 09:22 -0400
          Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) Willem <willem@toad.stack.nl> - 2012-06-06 13:49 +0000
            Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-06-06 14:56 +0100
            Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-06-06 10:17 -0400
      Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) Angel <angel+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-06-06 13:06 +0000
        Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) mike3 <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> - 2012-06-07 16:26 -0700
          Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) Angel <angel+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-06-08 14:26 +0000
            Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) mike3 <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> - 2012-06-08 15:19 -0700
              Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) Angel <angel+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-06-08 23:32 +0000
              Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-06-09 01:14 +0100
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) Jean-Christophe <5.d@free.fr> - 2012-06-09 04:36 -0700
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-06-09 05:54 -0700
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-06-09 16:12 +0100
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-06-09 08:44 -0700
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2012-06-10 18:23 +0200
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2012-06-10 19:42 +0200
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2012-06-14 18:00 +0200
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-06-11 01:14 -0700
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2012-06-12 08:01 +0200
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-06-12 05:27 -0700
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2012-06-12 08:44 +0200
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) - 2012-06-11 17:24 +0000
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-06-11 19:02 +0100
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) - 2012-06-12 20:03 +0000
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-06-13 00:58 -0700
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-06-13 06:37 -0400
                Evil in Programming   Was: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-06-13 04:50 -0700
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) gwowen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2012-06-13 07:02 -0700
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2012-06-13 12:47 -0500
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-06-13 14:17 -0400
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) Willem <willem@toad.stack.nl> - 2012-06-13 19:44 +0000
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-06-13 15:52 -0400
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2012-06-13 17:45 -0500
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-06-13 19:07 -0400
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) - 2012-06-14 23:03 +0000
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2012-06-14 23:25 +0000
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2012-06-14 19:25 -0500
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2012-06-17 20:32 -0700
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-06-18 01:30 -0700
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2012-06-18 07:06 -0500
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2012-06-13 19:57 +0100
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) - 2012-06-10 16:56 +0000
  Another problem (was Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc.) mike3 <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-31 16:46 -0700
    Re: Another problem (was Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc.) Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-06-01 15:55 +1200
  Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. gwowen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2012-06-06 08:12 -0700

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