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Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! (was Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc.)

From jgk@panix.com (Joe keane)
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! (was Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc.)
Date 2012-06-04 20:40 +0000
Organization Public Access Networks Corp.
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In article <goto-20120603170542@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de>,
Stefan Ram <ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
>  The code alteration of the first paragraph seems to be
>  easier with structured blocks. It also might be easier to
>  read and to argue about properties of that code segment or
>  to prove them; the mere wording »precondition«,
>  »postcondition«, and »invariant« of a block seem to imply
>  that it is a structured block.

What i see here is that the postcondition typically comprises two
conditions, one for normal exit, one for error exit, and they are
usually pretty dissimilar.  So i'm not sure that insisting on one
postcondition really buys you any simplicity.

In terms of code, it's always nice to see the normal exit first, then
the error handling.  Someone who just wants to get some idea how a
function works does not need to plow through the latter.  Of course we
want to be sure that it's right, but it's often just distracting.

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Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. mike3 <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-29 22:44 -0700
  Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Ike Naar <ike@sverige.freeshell.org> - 2012-05-30 06:38 +0000
  Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Nils M Holm <news2009@t3x.org> - 2012-05-30 06:57 +0000
  Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-05-30 00:52 -0700
    Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. mike3 <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-30 01:50 -0700
  Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. MarkBluemel <mark_bluemel@pobox.com> - 2012-05-30 09:55 +0100
    Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Willem <willem@toad.stack.nl> - 2012-05-30 09:18 +0000
      Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. tom st denis <tom@iahu.ca> - 2012-05-30 05:16 -0700
        Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Willem <willem@toad.stack.nl> - 2012-05-30 16:26 +0000
          Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. tom st denis <tom@iahu.ca> - 2012-06-01 08:05 -0700
            Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Willem <willem@toad.stack.nl> - 2012-06-03 11:24 +0000
          Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) - 2012-06-02 13:54 +0000
            Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Jean-Christophe <5.d@free.fr> - 2012-06-02 07:24 -0700
              Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) - 2012-06-02 16:37 +0000
                Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Jean-Christophe <5.d@free.fr> - 2012-06-02 12:46 -0700
            Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-06-02 15:42 +0100
              Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) - 2012-06-02 19:35 +0000
                Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-06-03 03:53 +0100
                Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-06-11 18:10 +0300
                Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-06-11 16:19 +0100
            Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Martin Shobe <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2012-06-02 19:27 +0000
              Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) - 2012-06-03 23:48 +0000
                Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-06-04 11:53 +1200
                Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Martin Shobe <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2012-06-04 03:32 +0000
    Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-05-30 07:25 -0700
    Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. falk@rahul.net (Edward A. Falk) - 2012-06-05 07:20 +0000
  Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-05-30 21:50 +1200
    Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-05-30 03:34 -0700
      Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-05-30 22:57 +1200
      Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Willem <willem@toad.stack.nl> - 2012-05-30 11:04 +0000
      Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-05-30 04:53 -0700
  Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-05-30 13:28 +0100
    Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. mike3 <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-30 13:57 -0700
  Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2012-05-30 15:19 +0200
    Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Mark Bluemel <mark.bluemel@googlemail.com> - 2012-05-31 01:10 -0700
    Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2012-06-02 17:34 +0200
      Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2012-06-03 10:33 +0200
  Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2012-05-30 13:56 +0000
    Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Kulin <remailer@reece.net.au> - 2012-05-30 17:29 +0000
  Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. ImpalerCore <jadill33@gmail.com> - 2012-05-30 07:13 -0700
    Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Thad Smith <ThadSmith@acm.org> - 2012-06-02 07:20 -0600
  Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-05-30 16:37 +0100
  Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Johann Klammer <klammerj@NOSPAM.a1.net> - 2012-05-30 19:05 +0200
  Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2012-05-31 13:19 -0700
    Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. mike3 <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-31 13:49 -0700
      Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-05-31 22:08 +0100
        Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. mike3 <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-31 16:08 -0700
      Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2012-05-31 17:34 -0700
      Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. Willem <willem@toad.stack.nl> - 2012-06-01 07:40 +0000
  GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! (was Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc.) mike3 <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-31 16:39 -0700
    Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-06-01 03:21 +0100
      Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! mike3 <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> - 2012-06-01 03:49 -0700
        Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-06-02 02:15 +0100
          Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! mike3 <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> - 2012-06-01 19:45 -0700
            Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-06-02 15:00 +0100
              Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! mike3 <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> - 2012-06-02 16:44 -0700
                Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-06-03 03:51 +0100
      Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! "Aaron W.  Hsu" <arcfide@sacrideo.us> - 2012-06-01 12:06 -0400
        Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-06-02 02:01 +0100
          Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! mike3 <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> - 2012-06-01 19:46 -0700
            Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! mike3 <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> - 2012-06-01 21:19 -0700
              Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! blmblm@myrealbox.com <blmblm.myrealbox@gmail.com> - 2012-06-02 16:35 +0000
            Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-06-02 14:50 +0100
            Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-06-02 07:04 -0700
          Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! "Aaron W. Hsu" <arcfide@sacrideo.us> - 2012-06-02 04:37 -0500
            Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! mike3 <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> - 2012-06-02 03:40 -0700
              Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-06-02 14:46 +0100
                Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-06-02 17:10 +0100
                Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2012-06-02 11:35 -0500
    Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! (was Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc.) "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-06-02 09:46 +0100
      Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! (was Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc.) "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2012-06-03 10:43 +0200
        Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! (was Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc.) "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-06-03 10:58 +0100
          Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! (was Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc.) "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2012-06-03 17:18 +0200
          Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! (was Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc.) jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) - 2012-06-04 20:40 +0000
            Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! (was Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc.) jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) - 2012-06-05 01:03 +0000
              Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2012-06-04 21:36 -0600
                Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) - 2012-06-05 15:13 +0000
              Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! (was Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc.) Ike Naar <ike@sverige.freeshell.org> - 2012-06-05 08:12 +0000
                Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! (was Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc.) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-06-05 06:00 -0400
            Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! (was Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc.) jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) - 2012-06-05 02:05 +0000
              Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! (was Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc.) Martin Shobe <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2012-06-05 03:16 +0000
        Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! (was Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc.) "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2012-06-03 17:30 +0200
          Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! (was Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc.) Jean-Christophe <5.d@free.fr> - 2012-06-03 09:02 -0700
            Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! (was Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc.) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-06-03 22:37 +0100
              Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! (was Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc.) Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2012-06-04 07:28 +0000
              Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program! (was Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc.) Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2012-06-08 01:28 -0700
    Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) mike3 <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> - 2012-06-06 02:54 -0700
      Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-06-06 13:14 +0100
        Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) pete <pfiland@mindspring.com> - 2012-06-06 09:22 -0400
          Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) Willem <willem@toad.stack.nl> - 2012-06-06 13:49 +0000
            Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-06-06 14:56 +0100
            Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-06-06 10:17 -0400
      Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) Angel <angel+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-06-06 13:06 +0000
        Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) mike3 <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> - 2012-06-07 16:26 -0700
          Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) Angel <angel+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-06-08 14:26 +0000
            Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) mike3 <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> - 2012-06-08 15:19 -0700
              Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) Angel <angel+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-06-08 23:32 +0000
              Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-06-09 01:14 +0100
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) Jean-Christophe <5.d@free.fr> - 2012-06-09 04:36 -0700
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-06-09 05:54 -0700
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-06-09 16:12 +0100
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-06-09 08:44 -0700
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2012-06-10 18:23 +0200
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2012-06-10 19:42 +0200
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2012-06-14 18:00 +0200
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-06-11 01:14 -0700
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2012-06-12 08:01 +0200
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-06-12 05:27 -0700
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2012-06-12 08:44 +0200
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) - 2012-06-11 17:24 +0000
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-06-11 19:02 +0100
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) - 2012-06-12 20:03 +0000
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-06-13 00:58 -0700
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-06-13 06:37 -0400
                Evil in Programming   Was: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-06-13 04:50 -0700
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) gwowen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2012-06-13 07:02 -0700
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2012-06-13 12:47 -0500
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-06-13 14:17 -0400
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) Willem <willem@toad.stack.nl> - 2012-06-13 19:44 +0000
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-06-13 15:52 -0400
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2012-06-13 17:45 -0500
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-06-13 19:07 -0400
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) - 2012-06-14 23:03 +0000
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2012-06-14 23:25 +0000
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2012-06-14 19:25 -0500
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2012-06-17 20:32 -0700
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-06-18 01:30 -0700
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2012-06-18 07:06 -0500
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2012-06-13 19:57 +0100
                Re: Why was there a GOTO? (was Re: GOTOs discovered in "real world" program!) jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) - 2012-06-10 16:56 +0000
  Another problem (was Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc.) mike3 <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-31 16:46 -0700
    Re: Another problem (was Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc.) Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-06-01 15:55 +1200
  Re: Error returns and repeated code, GOTOs, etc. gwowen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2012-06-06 08:12 -0700

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