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Re: casting constant value from float to unsigned short - compiler bugs?

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jacob navia wrote:
> 
> Le 02/12/11 23:36, Quentin Pope a écrit :
> > On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 10:34:22 +0100, jacob navia wrote:
> >> Yes. The first one is that the range for unsigned short is zero to
> >> USHORT_MAX. Your program has undefined behavior
> >> since a negative value
> >> will not go into an unsigned short, it is OUTSIDE its domain.
> >
> > Sorry, but this is nonsense.
> > Negative numbers stored in unsigned integer
> > types "wrap around" - there is NO overflow for unsigned types,
> > but all arithmetic is done modulo USHORT_MAX+1.
> > It is amazing that you are not
> > aware of this as a compiler writer!
> 
> The C standard specifies that when the
> 
> <quote> (C Standard 6.3.1.4)
>   If the value being converted is outside the range of values that can
> be represented, the behavior is undefined.
> <end quote>
> 
> A negative value can't be represented in an UNsigned integer.
> 
> By definition.

You got that all wrong.

Section 6.3.1.4 is
    6.3.1.4 Real floating and integer

and the quote that you quoted applies to this case:
    "When a value of integer type 
     is converted to a real floating type, ..."


The relevant section is

6.3.1.3 Signed and unsigned integers
    1 When a value with integer type is converted
      to another integer type other than _Bool, 
      if the value can be represented by the new type,
      it is unchanged.
    2 Otherwise, if the new type is unsigned, 
      the value is converted by repeatedly adding or
      subtracting one more than the maximum value
      that can be represented in the new type
      until the value is in the range of the new type.

... which amounts to exactly what Quentin Pope said.

-- 
pete

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casting constant value from float to unsigned short - compiler bugs? "news.aon.at" <mario_semo@hotmail.com> - 2011-12-02 10:06 +0100
  Re: casting constant value from float to unsigned short - compiler bugs? jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2011-12-02 10:34 +0100
    Re: casting constant value from float to unsigned short - compiler bugs? Vincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@hotmail.it> - 2011-12-02 18:10 +0100
    Re: casting constant value from float to unsigned short - compiler bugs? Quentin Pope <qp19433@hotmail.NOSPAM.com> - 2011-12-02 22:36 +0000
      Re: casting constant value from float to unsigned short - compiler bugs? jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2011-12-03 00:45 +0100
        Re: casting constant value from float to unsigned short - compiler  bugs? pete <pfiland@mindspring.com> - 2011-12-02 19:43 -0500
          Re: casting constant value from float to unsigned short - compiler   bugs? pete <pfiland@mindspring.com> - 2011-12-02 19:49 -0500
        Re: casting constant value from float to unsigned short - compiler bugs? Vincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it> - 2011-12-03 01:51 +0100
          Re: casting constant value from float to unsigned short - compiler bugs? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2011-12-03 11:51 -0500
            Re: casting constant value from float to unsigned short - compiler bugs? Vincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@hotmail.it> - 2011-12-03 19:08 +0100
              Re: casting constant value from float to unsigned short - compiler bugs? Quentin Pope <qp19433@hotmail.NOSPAM.com> - 2011-12-03 19:06 +0000
                Re: casting constant value from float to unsigned short - compiler bugs? Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2011-12-03 19:14 +0000
                Re: casting constant value from float to unsigned short - compiler bugs? Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-04 17:19 +0200
                Re: casting constant value from float to unsigned short - compiler bugs? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2011-12-04 10:39 -0500
      Re: casting constant value from float to unsigned short - compiler bugs? Vincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it> - 2011-12-03 01:41 +0100
        Re: casting constant value from float to unsigned short - compiler bugs? Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net> - 2012-01-03 12:31 -0800
          Re: casting constant value from float to unsigned short - compiler bugs? blp@cs.stanford.edu (Ben Pfaff) - 2012-01-03 12:38 -0800
            Re: casting constant value from float to unsigned short - compiler bugs? Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net> - 2012-01-06 11:38 -0800
              Re: casting constant value from float to unsigned short - compiler bugs? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-01-06 15:10 -0500
          Re: casting constant value from float to unsigned short - compiler bugs? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-01-03 12:49 -0800
            Re: casting constant value from float to unsigned short - compiler bugs? Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net> - 2012-01-04 15:14 -0800
              Re: casting constant value from float to unsigned short - compiler bugs? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-01-04 19:12 -0500
                Re: casting constant value from float to unsigned short - compiler bugs? Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net> - 2012-01-04 23:04 -0800
                Re: casting constant value from float to unsigned short - compiler bugs? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-01-05 02:43 -0800
                Re: casting constant value from float to unsigned short - compiler bugs? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-01-05 07:14 -0500
                Re: casting constant value from float to unsigned short - compiler bugs? Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net> - 2012-01-06 11:39 -0800
                Re: casting constant value from float to unsigned short - compiler bugs? Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net> - 2012-01-05 16:14 -0800
                Re: casting constant value from float to unsigned short - compiler bugs? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-01-05 16:44 -0800
                Re: casting constant value from float to unsigned short - compiler bugs? Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net> - 2012-01-06 11:30 -0800
                Re: casting constant value from float to unsigned short - compiler bugs? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-01-06 15:24 -0500
                Re: casting constant value from float to unsigned short - compiler bugs? Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2012-01-26 09:14 -0800
              Re: casting constant value from float to unsigned short - compiler bugs? gwowen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2012-01-05 04:09 -0800
              Re: casting constant value from float to unsigned short - compiler bugs? "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2012-01-05 16:32 +0100
          Re: casting constant value from float to unsigned short - compiler bugs? Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2012-01-04 09:11 +0000
            Re: casting constant value from float to unsigned short - compiler bugs? Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net> - 2012-01-04 23:08 -0800
              Re: casting constant value from float to unsigned short - compiler bugs? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-01-05 11:15 +0000
                Re: casting constant value from float to unsigned short - compiler bugs? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-01-05 07:27 -0500
                Re: casting constant value from float to unsigned short - compiler bugs? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-01-05 13:03 +0000
                Re: casting constant value from float to unsigned short - compiler bugs? Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net> - 2012-01-05 16:28 -0800
                Re: casting constant value from float to unsigned short - compiler bugs? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-01-06 07:17 -0500
                Re: casting constant value from float to unsigned short - compiler bugs? lawrence.jones@siemens.com - 2012-01-06 12:04 -0500
                Re: casting constant value from float to unsigned short - compiler bugs? Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2012-01-26 09:08 -0800
                Re: casting constant value from float to unsigned short - compiler bugs? Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net> - 2012-01-05 16:17 -0800
      Re: casting constant value from float to unsigned short - compiler bugs? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2011-12-03 01:50 +0000
  Re: casting constant value from float to unsigned short - compiler bugs? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2011-12-02 06:41 -0500
    Re: casting constant value from float to unsigned short - compiler bugs? Vincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@hotmail.it> - 2011-12-02 16:26 +0100

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