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Re: OT: on places such as the USENET

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> From: noname@add.invalid
 
> On 1/30/2022 1:21 PM, Meredith Montgomery wrote:
>> It's amazing how much I can't see when I'm analysing the smallest
>> problems.  I only know this because of places such as the USENET.  I
>> post my big problems here and you guys show how small they are.
>>
>> This leads to me wonder about the future of the USENET.
>>
>> These days there are privately-owned places on the web where 
> technical
>> people share questions and answers.  They're not nearly 
> well-populated
>> as the USENET.  This seems very clear to me.
 
> I think this depends on the usenet group. This is fairly well 
> behaving,
> others are simply dead.
 
I have rejoined USENET recently since when I started in the 80s and one 
of my goals is to cleanp dead feeds together with my NC and HUB.
 
Lots of work ahead but it will be worth it. First thing is an API which 
I am developing (se API button at theoraclebbs.com).
 
If you are an AI/Neuralnet developer and want to help, feel free to 
rechout to me at 1:129/330.
 
  >> >> As an optimistic note, I always conclude that smart people 
  > will always
>> build a good place for them.  But pessimistically I wonder if this 
> is
>> happening right now.  I do not consider these privately-owned places 
> on
>> the web to be a good place.  (Their format of question-and-answers, 
> for
>> instance, is a lose.  Smart people don't want to be framed like 
> that.
>> Not to mention the medium under the control of someone else.)  (I 
> know
>> there are very smart people in these places.  I'm not failing to
>> recognize that.)
 
> This is a very interesting observation. In other words, the quality 
> of a
> group is only as good as the quality of the participants.
> And, on the other hand, a framework for the group may help keep 
> order,
> but inevitably ends up limiting its contents.
 
>>
>> When I talk to very young people, I notice how they never heard of
>> things like the USENET or IRC.
 
> This is what I find most concerning: oblivion is probably the first
> threat to usenet, and that's sad, because, as others have said, 
> usenet
> is a bastion of free speech.
> I first heard about it during my university days, quite a few decades
> ago. It was pretty popular at that time. Now, not even close.
 
> About your reference to "young" people, I think that with the advent 
> of
> global connection they have become a huge "market" (not only 
> commercial,
> think of the value of the count of "followers")
> Thus the proliferation of frameworks to count them in. The problem
> raises when they get used to acting within one.
 
> This reminds me of a related point: a number of years ago I saw on an
> analysis on BBC about the effect of web search engines, particularly
> google.
> The analysis focused on how this was (is) affecting journalism: 
> writers
> are forced to write pieces that are easily indexable by search 
> engines,
> and this invariably affects their prose. The price for ignoring that,
> and writing your own way, is the risk of being missed by such
> algorithms, and thus get penalized in your work.
> But, in journalism (and not only) the form, shape is effectively
> essence, substance, so search algorithms are in fact affecting how 
> ideas
> and opinions get spread.
 
 
>>
>> I'm sure you guys have discussed all of this before.  If not 
> anything
>> else, at least this post should serve as a thank-you-note.  Thank 
> you!
 
> Really off topic, but interesting. Thank you.
 
> --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
> * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)

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OT: on places such as the USENET Meredith Montgomery <mmontgomery@levado.to> - 2022-01-30 09:21 -0300
  Re: OT: on places such as the USENET doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) - 2022-01-30 13:51 +0000
    Re: OT: on places such as the USENET Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2022-02-05 15:00 +0300
  Re: OT: on places such as the USENET Manfred <noname@add.invalid> - 2022-01-30 16:26 +0100
    Re: OT: on places such as the USENET NOSPAM.Alex.Sardo@darkrealms.ca (Alex Sardo) - 2022-01-30 13:16 +0000
  Re: OT: on places such as the USENET Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com> - 2022-02-05 14:22 +0800

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