Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h

From	Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.c
Subject	Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h
Date	2012-01-31 00:05 +0000
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID	<20120130155828.945@kylheku.com> (permalink)
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On 2012-01-30, Azazel <azazel@remove.azazel.net> wrote:
> On 2012-01-28, Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On 01/28/12 02:09 PM, Kaz Kylheku wrote:
>> > On 2012-01-28, Keith Thompson<kst-u@mib.org>  wrote:
>> >> Note that just not having "#include<stdbool.h>" is not a complete
>> >> solution; it might be included indirectly.
>> >
>> > <inttypes.h>  could be included indirectly too. So let's make all
>> > types like uint32_t into macros.
>>
>> On a Unix system, it undoubtedly will as the fixed with types are part
>> of the standard interface.
>>
>> I don't think <stdbool.h> is required anywhere. I guess one reason is
>> the "_t" suffix is considered (but not explicitly stated?) as part of
>> the operating environment's namespace.
>
> IIRC, it's POSIX that reserves some "_t" identifiers:
>
>   http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/007904975/functions/xsh_chap02_02.html

I'm well aware of this and have always believe that it is completely moronic.

Firstly, POSIX already has feature test macros so that old code does not see
new identifiers. If some foo_t did not exist in 1995 POSIX, and I want to use
1995 POSIX, there is  feature test macro for that so that even if 2012 there is
a foo_t, it will not be seen in my program.

Secondly, POSIX could add new identifiers at any time into headers, in ANY name
space. What's the point of saying _t is reserved, when tomorrow you could
introduce an identifier blorch, without previously having declared that
bl*ch is a reserved space? See point one: a properly versioned feature test
macro will eliminate blorch.

Thirdly, why reserve a commmon fucking space like _t that's part of a
widespread C programming convention?

Feature test macros eliminate the need for reserved spaces like this. All you
need are the generic ones like _[A-Z]* for the internal bits.
You don't need _t for header file internals.

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About -lm switch used for linking math.h Avinash Sonawane <avinash.sonawane1990@gmail.com> - 2012-01-26 13:59 -0800
  Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-01-26 14:15 -0800
  Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-01-26 17:17 -0500
    Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2012-01-26 20:54 -0500
    Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2012-01-27 02:12 +0000
  Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-01-26 23:29 +0100
  Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2012-01-26 23:09 -0700
    Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-01-27 08:37 +0100
    Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2012-01-27 09:48 +0000
      OT:Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Kleuske <kleuske@nowhere.net> - 2012-01-27 10:15 +0000
        Re: OT:Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2012-01-27 14:43 +0000
          Re: OT:Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h tom st denis <tom@iahu.ca> - 2012-01-27 07:49 -0800
            Re: OT:Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2012-01-27 15:55 +0000
              Re: OT:Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h tom st denis <tom@iahu.ca> - 2012-01-27 10:14 -0800
            Re: OT:Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-01-27 11:23 -0800
          Re: OT:Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2012-01-27 09:42 -0700
            Re: OT:Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2012-01-28 14:08 -0800
        Re: OT:Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-02-14 13:14 +0200
      Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-01-27 16:56 +0000
        Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2012-01-27 17:34 +0000
          Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-01-27 17:50 +0000
          Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2012-01-27 17:58 +0000
            Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h tom st denis <tom@iahu.ca> - 2012-01-27 10:15 -0800
            Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2012-01-27 19:25 +0000
              Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Kleuske <kleuske@nowhere.net> - 2012-01-28 18:09 +0000
            Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h jt@toerring.de (Jens Thoms Toerring) - 2012-01-27 21:32 +0000
    Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h "Wolfgang.Draxinger" <Wolfgang.Draxinger@physik.uni-muenchen.de> - 2012-01-27 12:40 +0100
      Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-01-27 12:48 +0000
        Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-01-27 14:28 +0000
      Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2012-01-27 17:14 +0000
        Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2012-01-27 17:34 +0000
      Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2012-01-27 10:43 -0700
    Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-01-27 12:25 -0600
      Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-01-27 18:41 +0000
        Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-01-27 13:45 -0500
          Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-01-27 11:29 -0800
        Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-01-27 22:35 +0100
        Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-01-27 17:19 -0600
          Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-01-27 19:22 -0500
            Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2012-01-31 23:32 -0800
          Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-01-27 16:26 -0800
            Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-01-28 13:30 +1300
              Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-01-27 17:04 -0800
                Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-01-28 14:10 +1300
                Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2012-01-27 21:06 -0500
                Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-01-27 20:09 -0800
                Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-01-27 20:15 -0800
              Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-01-27 23:03 -0600
                Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-01-28 19:10 +1300
                Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-01-28 04:28 -0800
                Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-01-28 15:25 -0600
                Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-01-29 11:39 +1300
                Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2012-01-29 09:53 -0800
                Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2012-02-03 10:39 +0000
                Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2012-02-01 16:42 -0800
                Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) - 2012-02-02 01:29 +0000
                Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-01-28 15:22 -0800
                Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-01-29 16:52 -0600
                Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-01-30 02:04 -0800
                Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2012-01-30 10:22 +0000
                Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-01-30 02:36 -0800
                Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-02-14 13:33 +0200
                Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2012-02-14 23:48 +0000
                Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-02-14 16:35 -0800
                Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-02-22 02:44 +0200
                Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-01-30 04:30 -0800
                Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-01-30 14:36 +0000
                Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2012-01-31 23:50 -0800
                Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-01-28 15:29 -0800
                Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-01-29 09:11 -0800
                Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-01-29 17:49 +0000
                Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-01-29 10:07 -0800
                Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-01-29 14:24 -0800
                Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2012-01-29 09:43 -0800
            Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-01-27 16:54 -0800
              Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2012-01-28 01:09 +0000
                Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-01-28 14:20 +1300
                Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Azazel <azazel@remove.azazel.net> - 2012-01-30 17:40 -0600
                Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2012-01-31 00:05 +0000
    Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) - 2012-01-27 20:03 +0000
      Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-01-27 12:26 -0800
        Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-01-28 10:24 +1300
          Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-01-27 21:32 +0000
            Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-01-27 16:39 -0500
            Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2012-01-27 23:24 -0600
              Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-01-28 20:38 +1300
                Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2012-01-28 02:17 -0600
              Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Richard Damon <news.x.richarddamon@xoxy.net> - 2012-01-28 14:07 -0500
                Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2012-01-28 15:07 -0600
        Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) - 2012-01-28 21:09 +0000
      Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2012-01-27 21:39 -0700
        Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-01-28 11:21 +0000
          Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2012-01-28 17:51 -0700
            Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-01-29 02:03 +0000
      Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2012-01-28 18:58 +0000
        Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-01-28 20:48 +0100
          Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2012-01-28 22:54 -0600
      Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) - 2012-01-29 21:42 +0000
        Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2012-01-30 00:14 -0600
  Re: About -lm switch used for linking math.h Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-01-27 11:12 -0600

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