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Re: A love of languages

From Muttley@dastardlyhq.com
Newsgroups comp.lang.c, comp.lang.c++
Subject Re: A love of languages
Date 2022-04-07 09:42 +0000
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On Thu, 7 Apr 2022 11:24:36 +0200
David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:
>On 07/04/2022 00:18, Richard wrote:
>> [Please do not mail me a copy of your followup]
>> 
>> Muttley@dastardlyhq.com spake the secret code
>> <t23oq5$1jau$1@gioia.aioe.org> thusly:
>> 
>>> If you think you might need it to get a job then do it, otherwise there's
>>> little point. Its just another procedural scripting language with an OO
>>> kludge nailed on top and doesn't bring anything new to the table.
>> 
>> The point about python isn't the language, it's the ecosystem of
>> packages.
>> 
>> Same for nodejs, perl, TeX, ruby, etc.  All those languages continue to
>> thrive and be useful for their niche because the ecosystem of packages
>> and the ease by which you can consume them makes it easy to get stuff
>> done.
>> 
>> vcpkg is making a difference for C++ though.
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpBDHh47w-I>
>> 
>> ...and speaking of package managers and python, I really dislike these
>> package managers for C++ that are written in python.  Adding a
>> dependency on another language is a fail from step 1.
>
>Why would you say that?  Pick the right language for the task in hand. 
>Python is a better language for a package manager than C++ - it has far 
>more of the useful components already in its library (internet 
>protocols, zip/tar/bzip2, that kind of thing), and lets you make a 
>package manager in a small fraction of the number of lines of code you'd 
>need in C++.  There are no advantages in using C++ here - you don't need 
>the speed (code speed is not the bottleneck), you don't care about 
>memory efficiency or disk space.

Using bash would be even better. Its installed by default on every version
of *nix that matters.

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A love of languages Jack Lemmon <invalid@invalid.net> - 2022-03-27 17:00 +0100
  Re: A love of languages Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-03-27 18:24 +0200
  Re: A love of languages Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-03-28 23:08 +0000
    Re: A love of languages Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2022-03-30 21:53 +0100
      Re: A love of languages David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-03-31 10:29 +0200
      Re: A love of languages Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-03-31 08:29 +0000
        Re: A love of languages Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-04-04 06:00 +0000
          Re: A love of languages Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-04-04 08:28 +0000
            Re: A love of languages Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2022-04-05 21:10 +0100
              Re: A love of languages red floyd <no.spam.here@its.invalid> - 2022-04-05 13:28 -0700
              Re: A love of languages om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) - 2022-04-11 13:24 -0400
              Re: A love of languages om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) - 2022-04-11 19:13 -0400
        Re: A love of languages legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2022-04-06 22:18 +0000
          Re: A love of languages Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2022-04-06 16:16 -0700
          Re: A love of languages Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-04-07 09:02 +0000
          Re: A love of languages David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-04-07 11:24 +0200
            Re: A love of languages Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-04-07 09:42 +0000
              Re: A love of languages David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-04-07 12:02 +0200
              Re: A love of languages Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de> - 2022-04-07 21:54 +0200
                Re: A love of languages Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-04-08 10:49 +0000
                Re: A love of languages Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-04-08 12:16 +0000
                Re: A love of languages David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-04-08 15:08 +0200
                Re: A love of languages Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2022-04-08 15:31 +0100
                Re: A love of languages David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-04-08 18:15 +0200
                Re: A love of languages Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2022-04-08 19:14 +0100
                Re: A love of languages scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-04-08 14:53 +0000
                Re: A love of languages David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-04-08 18:18 +0200
                Re: A love of languages scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-04-08 17:47 +0000
                Re: A love of languages Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-04-09 09:13 +0000
                Re: A love of languages scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-04-08 14:51 +0000
                Re: A love of languages Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2022-04-11 08:28 +0000
              Re: A love of languages legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2022-04-07 20:54 +0000

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