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Re: H(P,P) is pure software engineering that correctly refutes the halting theorem

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Subject Re: H(P,P) is pure software engineering that correctly refutes the halting theorem
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olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:

> Most everyone here can see: (from my updated simplified paper)
> It is a verified fact that the input that is correctly simulated by
> H(P,P) cannot possibly terminate normally.

"Most everyone" here who sees this, please raise your hand now?

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