Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world, C++ code?

From	Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.c++
Subject	Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world, C++ code?
Date	2012-04-19 11:41 +0900
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Pavel <pauldontspamtolk@removeyourself.dontspam.yahoo> writes:
>> Glued-on adhoc "namespaces" do not give you that choice, and so in the
>> end can result in less readable code.
>
> Not quite true. Nobody prevents you from using small names locally if
> you overuse your "big names". E.g. implementing delegating long public
> names to shorter static, anonymous-namespace-scoped or protected
> names.

Er, how?  The only ways I can think of are very annoying, requiring one
to explicitly add a definition for _every name_.

> For other classes/modules -- yes, I prefer to force using longer
> names. And this is because "you" is not really "you" but someone else
> whose choice of names is outside your control -- and this is true for
> any sizable project.
>
> Many people forget that the programming is not talking to oneself or
> one's compiler or computer but collaboration with other people who can
> be expected to sometimes act unwisely (from one's point of view).

Yes, we know that.  Please don't be condescending.

Excessive use of names with long redundant prefixes can be obfuscating,
making code _less_ readable.  You can disagree with that, of course,
but that's more or less the point:  there is no consensus among on this
issue among reasonable people.

-miles

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Methods for understanding complex, real world,  C++ code? mathog <dmathog@gmail.com> - 2012-04-10 08:54 -0700
  Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world, C++ code? "K. Frank" <kfrank29.c@gmail.com> - 2012-04-10 12:55 -0700
    Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world, C++ code? Noah Roberts <roberts.noah@gmail.com> - 2012-04-11 09:23 -0700
      Writing extensions, like VBA "macros", Perl or JavaScript.  @Jeff-Relf.Me - 2012-04-11 11:22 -0700
      Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world, C++ code? Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> - 2012-04-11 14:35 -0500
      Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world, C++ code? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2012-04-11 21:53 +0000
        Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world, C++ code? mathog <dmathog@gmail.com> - 2012-04-12 12:01 -0700
      Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world, C++ code? "K. Frank" <kfrank29.c@gmail.com> - 2012-04-11 16:06 -0700
      Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world, C++ code? Christopher Pisz <someone@somewhere.net> - 2012-04-12 11:46 -0500
      Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world, C++ code? Pavel <pauldontspamtolk@removeyourself.dontspam.yahoo> - 2012-04-12 22:32 -0400
        Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world, C++ code? nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-04-13 02:16 -0700
          Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world, C++ code? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2012-04-15 10:21 +0000
            Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world, C++ code? Pavel <pauldontspamtolk@removeyourself.dontspam.yahoo> - 2012-04-15 19:33 -0400
              Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world, C++ code? Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> - 2012-04-16 09:59 +0900
                Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world, C++ code? Pavel <pauldontspamtolk@removeyourself.dontspam.yahoo> - 2012-04-15 21:32 -0400
                Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world, C++ code? Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> - 2012-04-17 09:32 +0900
                Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world, C++ code? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2012-04-17 02:06 +0000
                Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world, C++ code? Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> - 2012-04-17 11:35 +0900
                Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world, C++ code? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-04-17 16:06 +1200
                Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world, C++ code? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2012-04-17 15:24 +0000
                Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world, C++ code? Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> - 2012-04-18 04:50 +0900
                Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world, C++ code? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2012-04-17 20:18 +0000
                Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world, C++ code? Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> - 2012-04-18 10:31 +0900
                Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world, C++ code? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2012-04-18 01:36 +0000
                Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world, C++ code? Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> - 2012-04-18 11:00 +0900
                Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world, C++ code? Pavel <pauldontspamtolk@removeyourself.dontspam.yahoo> - 2012-04-18 22:09 -0400
                Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world, C++ code? Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> - 2012-04-19 11:41 +0900
                Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world, C++ code? Pavel <pauldontspamtolk@removeyourself.dontspam.yahoo> - 2012-04-18 23:04 -0400
                Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world, C++ code? Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> - 2012-04-19 13:33 +0900
                Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world, C++ code? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-04-19 15:56 +1200
                Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world, C++ code? Pavel <pauldontspamtolk@removeyourself.dontspam.yahoo> - 2012-04-19 22:54 -0400
                Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world, C++ code? Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> - 2012-04-20 14:31 +0900
              Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world, C++ code? Tobias Müller <troplin@bluewin.ch> - 2012-04-16 06:39 +0000
                Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world, C++ code? Pavel <pauldontspamtolk@removeyourself.dontspam.yahoo> - 2012-04-18 22:25 -0400
                Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world, C++ code? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2012-04-19 13:58 +0000
                Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world, C++ code? Pavel <pauldontspamtolk@removeyourself.dontspam.yahoo> - 2012-04-19 23:39 -0400
                Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world, C++ code? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2012-04-22 16:37 +0000
                Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world, C++ code? Dombo <dombo@disposable.invalid> - 2012-04-19 23:20 +0200
                Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world, C++ code? Pavel <pauldontspamtolk@removeyourself.dontspam.yahoo> - 2012-04-19 23:54 -0400
              Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world, C++ code? nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-04-17 03:50 -0700
                Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world, C++ code? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2012-04-17 12:01 +0000
  Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world,  C++ code? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-04-11 08:04 +1200
  Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world,  C++ code? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2012-04-10 22:26 +0000
    Rewrite it.  @Jeff-Relf.Me - 2012-04-10 16:31 -0700
      Re: Rewrite it.  nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-04-11 01:20 -0700
        Re: Rewrite it. ï»¿ï»¿ Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-04-11 10:06 +0100
          Re: Rewrite it.  nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-04-11 03:45 -0700
            Building a "house" that you can live in for decades to come.  @Jeff-Relf.Me - 2012-04-11 08:52 -0700
              Re: Building a "house" that you can live in for decades to come.  Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> - 2012-04-12 13:19 +0900
    Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world, C++ code? "K. Frank" <kfrank29.c@gmail.com> - 2012-04-10 17:37 -0700
      Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world, C++ code? Pavel <pauldontspamtolk@removeyourself.dontspam.yahoo> - 2012-04-12 21:40 -0400
  Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world,  C++ code? michael.boehnisch@gmail.com - 2012-04-10 17:29 -0700
    Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world,  C++ code? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-04-11 10:02 +0100
  Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world,  C++ code? jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) - 2012-04-11 22:36 +0000
    Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world, C++ code? Noah Roberts <roberts.noah@gmail.com> - 2012-04-11 16:05 -0700
      Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world, C++ code? Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2012-04-11 19:37 -0500
  Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world,  C++ code? Pavel <pauldontspamtolk@removeyourself.dontspam.yahoo> - 2012-04-12 21:48 -0400
    Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world,  C++ code? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2012-04-15 09:56 +0000
      Re: Methods for understanding complex, real world,  C++ code? Pavel <pauldontspamtolk@removeyourself.dontspam.yahoo> - 2012-04-15 19:43 -0400

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