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Re: Latest draft of C++ 11 Organization: Roundhouse Consulting, Ltd.

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* Keith H. Duggar:

> On Jun 11, 5:51 pm, Florian Weimer <f...@deneb.enyo.de> wrote:
>> * Keith H. Duggar:
>>
>> > Yes, it's a rising sense of entitlement. The self-centered ignorant
>> > masses expect others to work for them for free.
>>
>> Doesn't the C++ standardization committee work for free for the
>> relevant national standardization bodies and ISO?
>
> No. ISO provides infrastructure, maintenance, servicing, etc (in
> other words they perform work) in exchange for membership fees,
> publishing rights, technical contribution, etc from the members.
> ISO currently receives roughly 35% of it's revenue from sales
> and service. So clearly 1) sales are an important revenue stream
> for them 2) they are providing economically valuable work.

This wasn't my question.  Clearly, ISO spends membership fees on
something.

> In any case, what does volunteer work and/or mutual agreement have
> to do with Alexander demanding the work of /others/ for free? ISO
> has something Alexander wants. ISO asks for compensation in return
> for giving him what he wants. If they mutually agree to the terms
> then a transaction can happen. If they don't it doesn't. Economics
> (and life for that matter) does not get any simpler than that.

ISO didn't compensate the authors and editors, either.  A bit like the
major record label who makes quite a few bucks by selling an album by
some minor band, and curiously, none of it actually ends up at the
band.  Perhaps this analogy explains why the situation is a bit
puzzling.  On the other hand, it is structurally similar to
complaining about the overpriced nature of Apple hardware---without
the brand and the price tag, there would be no Apple product at all.

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Re: Latest draft of C++ 11 Organization: Roundhouse Consulting, Ltd. Alexander Terekhov <terekhov@web.de> - 2011-06-10 12:05 +0200
  Re: Latest draft of C++ 11 Organization: Roundhouse Consulting, Ltd. Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2011-06-10 03:35 -0700
    Re: Latest draft of C++ 11 Organization: Roundhouse Consulting, Ltd. Alexander Terekhov <terekhov@web.de> - 2011-06-10 13:28 +0200
      Re: Latest draft of C++ 11 Organization: Roundhouse Consulting, Ltd. Michael Doubez <michael.doubez@free.fr> - 2011-06-10 05:07 -0700
        Re: Latest draft of C++ 11 Organization: Roundhouse Consulting, Ltd. Alexander Terekhov <terekhov@web.de> - 2011-06-10 14:32 +0200
          Re: Latest draft of C++ 11 Organization: Roundhouse Consulting, Ltd. Michael Doubez <michael.doubez@free.fr> - 2011-06-10 07:24 -0700
            Re: Latest draft of C++ 11 Organization: Roundhouse Consulting, Ltd. Alexander Terekhov <terekhov@web.de> - 2011-06-10 16:50 +0200
      Re: Latest draft of C++ 11 Organization: Roundhouse Consulting, Ltd. "Balog Pal" <pasa@lib.hu> - 2011-06-10 14:21 +0200
        Re: Latest draft of C++ 11 Organization: Roundhouse Consulting, Ltd. Alexander Terekhov <terekhov@web.de> - 2011-06-10 14:34 +0200
        Re: Latest draft of C++ 11 Organization: Roundhouse Consulting, Ltd. Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de> - 2011-06-11 23:56 +0200
      Re: Latest draft of C++ 11 Organization: Roundhouse Consulting, Ltd. Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-11 08:20 +1200
        Re: Latest draft of C++ 11 Organization: Roundhouse Consulting, Ltd. Keith H Duggar <duggar@alum.mit.edu> - 2011-06-10 20:33 -0700
          Re: Latest draft of C++ 11 Organization: Roundhouse Consulting, Ltd. Alexander Terekhov <terekhov@web.de> - 2011-06-11 12:59 +0200
          Re: Latest draft of C++ 11 Organization: Roundhouse Consulting, Ltd. Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de> - 2011-06-11 23:51 +0200
            Re: Latest draft of C++ 11 Organization: Roundhouse Consulting, Ltd. Keith H Duggar <duggar@alum.mit.edu> - 2011-06-11 15:32 -0700
              Re: Latest draft of C++ 11 Organization: Roundhouse Consulting, Ltd. Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de> - 2011-06-12 10:28 +0200
                Re: Latest draft of C++ 11 Organization: Roundhouse Consulting, Ltd. Keith H Duggar <duggar@alum.mit.edu> - 2011-06-12 08:02 -0700
        Re: Latest draft of C++ 11 Organization: Roundhouse Consulting, Ltd. Alexander Terekhov <terekhov@web.de> - 2011-06-11 12:53 +0200
          Re: Latest draft of C++ 11 Organization: Roundhouse Consulting, Ltd. Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-11 23:30 +1200
            Re: Latest draft of C++ 11 Organization: Roundhouse Consulting, Ltd. Alexander Terekhov <terekhov@web.de> - 2011-06-11 13:55 +0200
        Re: Latest draft of C++ 11 Organization: Roundhouse Consulting, Ltd. Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de> - 2011-06-11 23:44 +0200

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