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Tiib writes: > On Friday, 29 November 2019 01:39:26 UTC+2, Tim Rentsch wrote: > >> <<D6 F6 [05b6]>> Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> writes: >> >>> On Sunday, 17 November 2019 16:49:59 UTC+2, Bonita Montero wrote: >>> >>>> The standard says that all objects of complete types have a poper >>>> alignment. >>> >>> That is bald, groundless and nonsensical assertion. >>> All objects *must* have complete types in C++ program: >>> "A program is ill-formed if the definition of any object gives >>> the object an incomplete type." >> >> Not counting the misspelling of proper, there is nothing nonsensical >> about it. Furthermore although the C++ standard doesn't use those >> exact words, it does imply that the statement is true. > > Nonsensical is to assert that standard says something specially about > properties of objects of complete types when these are the only kind > of objects that may exist in well-formed program. I think you misunderstand the English word nonsensical. A statement can be unlikely, silly, or ridiculous, but none of those make it nonsensical. In fact to say a statement is unlikely more or less automatically implies it is sensical. > If you mean (leaving the nonsense aside) that "all objects must have > proper alignment" is said by standard in some other wording then feel > free to quote, I have found it not. I mean I find the statement consistent with what the standard does say. >> Incidentally, I think the word "bald" doesn't mean what you think it >> means. The statement "the sun is shining today" could accurately, >> even if perhaps confusingly, be termed a "bald statement". > > I used "bald assertion" in sense of "a statement used without proof > or evidence of truth". Wikipedia claims it is used in that sense > about marketing statements ... [...] Despite what Wikipedia may say, that's isn't what the word means. I recommend, especially for people for whom English is not their first language, consulting a dictionary (or better, more than one) whenever there is any question about what a word means or whether a particular word is a good choice in a particular situation. I routinely consult dictionaries when questions like this come up (yes, even though English is my first language).
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Re: std::atomic<T>::is_lock_free() Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2019-11-28 15:39 -0800
Re: std::atomic<T>::is_lock_free() Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-11-28 16:33 -0800
Re: std::atomic<T>::is_lock_free() Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2020-01-10 22:48 -0800
Re: std::atomic<T>::is_lock_free() Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2020-01-11 00:24 -0800
Re: std::atomic<T>::is_lock_free() Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2020-01-14 07:16 -0800
Re: std::atomic<T>::is_lock_free() Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2020-01-14 08:55 -0800
Re: std::atomic<T>::is_lock_free() Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2020-01-21 02:01 -0800
Re: std::atomic<T>::is_lock_free() James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-01-21 06:00 -0800
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