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Re: std::atomic<T>::is_lock_free()

From Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c++
Subject Re: std::atomic<T>::is_lock_free()
Date 2020-01-21 02:01 -0800
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Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> writes:

> On Tuesday, 14 January 2020 17:16:57 UTC+2, Tim Rentsch  wrote:
>
>> Tiib writes:
>>
>>> On Saturday, 11 January 2020 08:48:50 UTC+2, Tim Rentsch  wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>>> I recommend, especially for people for whom English is not their
>>>> first language, consulting a dictionary (or better, more than one)
>>>> whenever there is any question about what a word means or whether
>>>> a particular word is a good choice in a particular situation.  I
>>>> routinely consult dictionaries when questions like this come up
>>>> (yes, even though English is my first language).
>>>
>>> I can communicate in 4 languages and so am convinced that words
>>> mean nothing in essence.  Word may be used in one meaning in one
>>> language in totally different meaning in other language and never
>>> used in any meaning in third language.  Meaning is what people
>>> wanted to express with those.
>>> Online English encyclopedia just documents with cites that certain
>>> words are used by certain people to express something and so these
>>> words have that meaning.  In C++ standard these words are not used
>>> to mean anything and so can not cause confusion with slang of C++.
>>
>> When your aim is to communicate with people while speaking (or
>> writing) English, it's almost always better to use words in the
>> way that they are likely to be most commonly understood.  Using
>> dictionaries is good for this purpose, precisely because it is
>> widely accepted (at least in English speaking cultures) that they
>> provide good and fairly reliably authoritative information.  In
>> short, using dictionaries is good because everyone knows to
>> consult them.
>
> I usually do not communicate with purpose of using English.
> However I checked couple dictionaries and figured out that
> "bald" has roughly two meanings:
> 1: bare, barren, naked, hairless, having no covering.
> 2: simple, unadorned,  blunt.
> So I feel that "bald assertion" carries what I meant.
> So it makes me unsure about what you complain.

Because I think the phrase doesn't convey the meaning you want
to convey.  Or to say that another way, what you think the
phrase says is not how many or most people will read it.

(Incidentally, I wouldn't call my comment a complaint, but
that isn't important, just saying fyi.)

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Re: std::atomic<T>::is_lock_free() Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2019-11-28 15:39 -0800
  Re: std::atomic<T>::is_lock_free() Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-11-28 16:33 -0800
    Re: std::atomic<T>::is_lock_free() Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2020-01-10 22:48 -0800
      Re: std::atomic<T>::is_lock_free() Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2020-01-11 00:24 -0800
        Re: std::atomic<T>::is_lock_free() Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2020-01-14 07:16 -0800
          Re: std::atomic<T>::is_lock_free() Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2020-01-14 08:55 -0800
            Re: std::atomic<T>::is_lock_free() Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2020-01-21 02:01 -0800
              Re: std::atomic<T>::is_lock_free() James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-01-21 06:00 -0800

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