Reality of Proof Assistants / Coding [Luhmans Zettelkasten] (Re: Free Speech for (my) Robots)

From	Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Newsgroups	comp.theory, comp.lang.c, comp.lang.c++
Subject	Reality of Proof Assistants / Coding [Luhmans Zettelkasten] (Re: Free Speech for (my) Robots)
Date	2026-08-20 20:22 +0200
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Hi,

The main problem, when it comes to proof writing
with proof assistants. Its just like code writing.
Basically fire and forget, either you document or

you dont document, but you want to flush your
brain and move on to other problems. So most
of the Isabelle/HOL proofs are large essays

written over many months, and the author has
disembodied himself from the topics. So these
proofs never satisfy the cringe Terrence Tao,

requirement which is copied from a PhD
examination playbook:

"My own suggested rule of thumb: if the authors
cannot convincingly demonstrate that they are able
to give a clear, expert-level talk on their results, one
that is correct and properly attributed, then the result
should not be published. A proof that no human
can properly explain should be viewed as incomplete,
even if it has been formally verified."
https://arxiv.org/abs/2608.16753

What you can try is a kind of V-model disciplin,
and write done higher level specs as well.
But sometimes traceability between layers is

quite brittle, you will do it informally. The cringe
Terrence Tao requirement wouldn't work either
for the books that Terrence Tao wrote, or any

other "tome" by any other author on this planet.
In case of Terrence Tao it wont work, because he
Terrence Tao maybe dead tomorrow, or because

I doubt that he remembers all his books he wrote,
and all the spontaneous rationals, in his books.
Its allways fire and forget, so that others or yourself

can pick it up, in case they/you need something, and read it.

Bye

The fire and forget and externalization of knowledge
is possibly best explained in Luhmans Zettelkasten:
https://niklas-luhmann-archiv.de/nachlass/zettelkasten

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> So the Chinese Room Argument, whether
> the Chinese in the room only follows rules
> or not, is not relevant now.
> 
> What we do want, is no Chinese in the Room
> anymore. Is it really Chinese? Basically the
> stupid Academic Elite with its publication
> 
> Monopole, and their "Review Processes"
> which is totally fake, are frightened to death.
> They put a lot of effort in creating a new
> 
> Something AI Should Tell You –
> The Case for Labelling Synthetic Content
> https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/japp.12758
> 
> regulatory protectionism disguised as ethics.
> Its just another "burning of (my) books"
> create on my Budget AI Laptop:
> 
> BAP - Kristallnaach [Live 1999]
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-ZCGVb26pA
> 
> So fuck you Terrence Tao!
> 
> Bye
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Since for MIME type "text/*":
>>
>> Within four hours of Anthropic confirming that
>> Claude models would globally embed invisible,
>> machine-readable watermarks into any AI-generated
>> content, developer Guillaume Meyer had
>> published his override
>> https://www.wired.com/story/coders-say-they-already-found-workarounds-to-claudes-invisible-watermarks/ 
>>
>>
>> BTW, I increase my "Convincingness" of my content,
>> abviously cocreated with AI, since I cannot
>> live anymore without AI, by removing the tag:
>>
>> User-agent: AutonomousAIEventHorizon
>>
>> Have Fun!
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> The AI Event Horizon in Software Development
>> https://www.northcode.fi/article/the-ai-event-horizon
>>
>> Maria Sophia schrieb:
>>  > Somewhat related to AI watermarking is this recent article in the 
>> news.
>>  >
>>  >   *What does it mean to put a watermark on AI text?*
>>  > 
>> <https://edition.cnn.com/2026/08/20/us/word-of-the-week-ai-watermark-cec>
>>  >
>>  > Which references:
>>  >   *How Claude's text watermark works*
>>  >   <https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-text-watermark>
>>  >
>>  >   *How AI text watermarking works*
>>  >   <https://declaude.org/watermarking/>
>>  >
>>  > Where apparently there is an EU law which requires watermarking...
>>  > 
>> <https://edition.cnn.com/2026/08/11/business/video/invisible-watermarks-coming-claudes-ai-written-text-digvid-vrtc> 
>>
>>  >
>>  > There's also this referenced, but it's behind a paywall.
>>  >   *Technology that can detect text written by AI with 99.9% certainty*
>>  > 
>> <https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/openai-tool-chatgpt-cheating-writing-135b755a> 
>>
>>
>>
>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> The Armer paper gets geopolitical in the end
>>> chapters. But today you could pivot russia for
>>> china, and you would get a nice piece of work.
>>>
>>> But who is the Chinese Lenin, that allows
>>> even rocks and stones to participate in
>>> the class struggle?
>>>
>>>   "Finally, it is particularly necessary to
>>> emphasize the importance of the work of Lenin
>>> who in elaborating on the ideas of Marx and
>>> Engels, developed a materialistic theory of
>>> consciousness as a reflection of activity.
>>> Attention should also be given to the Lenistic
>>> statement of the fact that non-living matter
>>> may also possess this property of reflection."
>>> - Paul Armer, Page 22
>>>
>>> Bye
>>>
>>> Jens Kallup schrieb:
>>>  > Es ist schlimm, das man in der modernen Zeit
>>>  > trotz KI immer noch von dem spricht, was die
>>>  > Welt anscheinend antreibt: GELD.
>>>  >
>>>  > Wer Geld hat, hat Macht, kann Wissen einkaufen -
>>>  > was ist mit den Rest ? Die kleinen haben kein Geld,
>>>  > Amerika ist pleite und Deutschland hat nun wieder
>>>  > eine neue Steuer - Kinderfonds, 10 Euro monatlich,
>>>  > bis 18, angelegt für den Staat Deutschland.
>>>
>>>
>>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> How it started:
>>>>
>>>> Speed
>>>> ^
>>>> | * Machine
>>>> |  (1963)
>>>> |
>>>> |
>>>> |             * Man
>>>> +--------------------->
>>>> Sophistication
>>>>
>>>> How its going?
>>>>
>>>> Speed
>>>> ^
>>>> | * Machine   * Machine
>>>> |  (1963)       (2026)
>>>> |
>>>> |
>>>> |             * Man
>>>> +--------------------->
>>>> Sophistication
>>>>
>>>> Bye
>>>>
>>>> ATTITUDES TOWARD INTELLIGENT MACHINES
>>>> Paul Armer
>>>> RAND Corporation
>>>> in
>>>> BIONICS SYMPOSIUM 1960
>>>> LIVING PROTOTYPES - THE KEY TO NEW TECHNOLOGY
>>>> https://books.google.ch/books?id=1ZMeAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA13
>>>>
>>>> Stefan Ram schrieb:
>>>>  >    In "Mathematics in the Age OF AI" (2026-08-17) macht Terence
>>>>  >    Tao sich auf zirka 11 Seiten Gedanke darüber, in welcher Form
>>>>  >    KI-Systeme von ihnen gefundene Erkenntnisse bereitstellen und
>>>>  >    wie diese in das mathematische Wissen integriert werden sollten.
>>>>
>>>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I even don't remember exactly why I landed
>>>>> in comp.theory. A yes, because Rossy Boy,
>>>>> was hooked on SIMD and didn't understand Hack.
>>>>>
>>>>> But the Hack work, rather belongs to my
>>>>> Alma Mater Zurich and my personal heros, Gutnecht
>>>>> and Wirth, who wrote a one pass Modula
>>>>>
>>>>> compiler during some christmas holidays,
>>>>> back then when I was student. Not sure
>>>>> whether the Ljubljana School can do that,
>>>>>
>>>>> when I read this here:
>>>>>
>>>>> Finite Algebraic Effects as dicts and such
>>>>> https://www.philipzucker.com/bdd_term_alg_effects/
>>>>>
>>>>> I only find gibberish like:
>>>>> - “Data” is somehow less mysterious to me
>>>>>    than “computation”.  [..] I don’t even
>>>>>    know what “computation” really is
>>>>>
>>>>> - In temporal logic, there is a logic CTL
>>>>>    which talks about computation trees.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Algerbaic (LoL) effects is almost a complete
>>>>>    hackery abuse of the notion of arity
>>>>>    and that’s neat.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Then there are 10^10 etc vectors which
>>>>>    show up if you discretize 3d/4d space. [..]
>>>>>    or reinforcement learning.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Etc..
>>>>>
>>>>> WTF is this guy smoking? I mean he even
>>>>> doesn't uses math notation, only posts
>>>>> Python code fragments à go go,
>>>>>
>>>>> possibly a Python brain damage.
>>>>>
>>>>> But still less sever than Rossy Boys.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bye
>>>>>
>>>>> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>>>>>> Hello, here I'll post some design notes and a panel discussion 
>>>>>> with some
>>>>>> chat-bots about making some sense of the "vector-wide scalar word"
>>>>>> and "character machines", on commodity hardware about ubiquitous 
>>>>>> operations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's considered at least tangentially relevant to comp.lang.c and
>>>>>> comp.lang.c++ because for example text is ubiquitous and the targets
>>>>>> would be low-level, while the higher-level languages would have a
>>>>>> same sort of patternry, and for example that libc and cstdlib are
>>>>>> standard, and as with regards to POSIX and Unicode and so on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please feel free to excuse or ignore, or comment as freely.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for reading.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

Thread

Viswath & Charmaigne (vector-wide scalar-word and character machines) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-27 11:43 -0700
  Re: Viswath & Charmaigne (vector-wide scalar-word and character machines) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-28 02:47 +0800
    Re: Viswath & Charmaigne (vector-wide scalar-word and character machines) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-27 15:07 -0700
      Re: Viswath & Charmaigne (vector-wide scalar-word and character machines) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-28 00:25 +0200
        Re: Viswath & Charmaigne (vector-wide scalar-word and character machines) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-27 16:09 -0700
          Re: Viswath & Charmaigne (vector-wide scalar-word and character machines) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-27 16:33 -0700
        Re: Viswath & Charmaigne (vector-wide scalar-word and character machines) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-27 15:48 -0700
      Re: Viswath & Charmaigne (vector-wide scalar-word and character machines) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 07:44 -0700
        You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL (Was: Viswath & Charmaigne) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 17:11 +0200
          Re: You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL (Was: Viswath & Charmaigne) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 08:25 -0700
            Re: You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL (Was: Viswath & Charmaigne) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-29 23:49 +0800
              Re: You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL (Was: Viswath & Charmaigne) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 08:59 -0700
              I don't care about Java, pi-WAM is pi-calculus and WAM (Re: You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 18:05 +0200
                Underneath pi-WAM is Hack VM, you can goto (Was: I don't care about Java, pi-WAM is pi-calculus and WAM) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 18:09 +0200
                New addition to π-WAM is π-WAM Assembly (Was: Underneath pi-WAM is Hack VM, you can goto) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-09 19:45 +0200
                Re: I don't care about Java, pi-WAM is pi-calculus and WAM (Re: You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 09:11 -0700
                A yellow mustard called Rossy Body (Was: I don't care about Java, pi-WAM is pi-calculus and WAM) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 18:30 +0200
                Ignoramus or Ignorabimus: I don't care (π-WAM) (Was: A yellow mustard called Rossy Body) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 18:31 +0200
          Hurry Rossy Boy, the blue bus is waiting (Was: You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 17:32 +0200
            Re: Hurry Rossy Boy, the blue bus is waiting (Was: You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 08:36 -0700
            Look how they advertized CUDA and logical threads (Was: Hurry Rossy Boy, the blue bus is waiting) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 17:43 +0200
              Forget any arithmetization of product FSA (Was: Look how they advertized CUDA and logical threads) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 17:47 +0200
                comp.lang.lisp (was: Re: Forget any arithmetization of product FSA) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-29 23:53 +0800
              Re: Look how they advertized CUDA and logical threads (Was: Hurry Rossy Boy, the blue bus is waiting) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 08:53 -0700
          There are two versions of Hack VM (Was: You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 18:14 +0200
            Hack VM has also a Prolog spec (Was: There are two versions of Hack VM) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 18:17 +0200
              A better compiler is planned / What do you target? (Was: Hack VM has also a Prolog spec) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 18:22 +0200
                It’s called . . . . enshittification (About the price tag for using a multifile/1) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-14 00:50 +0200
          Budget AI Laptop 2026 versus Cray T3D 1995 (Re: You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-05 14:24 +0200
    A brain desease of 20 days [Rossy Boy] (Was: Viswath & Charmaigne (vector-wide scalar-word and character machines)) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 18:38 +0200
      Rossy Boys tears could cool a data center [pi-WAM Interleaved Synchronized Emulator] Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 20:05 +0200
        Re: Rossy Boys tears could cool a data center [pi-WAM Interleaved Synchronized Emulator] Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 11:13 -0700
          I don't use Rust, you are crazy [Jump off a bridge, idiot] (Was: Rossy Boys tears could cool a data center [pi-WAM Interleaved Synchronized Emulator]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 20:22 +0200
            Standing on the shoulders of giants (Re: I don't use Rust, you are crazy [Jump off a bridge, idiot]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-04 03:20 +0200
              You Thief! Stealing Szemeredi, Aristotle, Leibniz, etc.. (Re: Standing on the shoulders of giants) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-04 15:18 +0200
                How Rossy Boys plagiarism works [Copy Paste Slop] (Re: You Thief! Stealing Szemeredi, Aristotle, Leibniz, etc..) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-04 17:56 +0200
          Postgres is in C! Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-30 03:46 +0800
            Re: Postgres is in C! Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 13:47 -0700
              Please don't extend your cross posting / What does abstract mean? (Was: Postgres is in C!) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 23:00 +0200
                Re: Please don't extend your cross posting / What does abstract mean? (Was: Postgres is in C!) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-30 21:05 +0800
                Re: Please don't extend your cross posting / What does abstract mean? (Was: Postgres is in C!) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-07-30 14:46 +0000
                Re: Please don't extend your cross posting / What does abstract mean? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-07-30 16:00 +0000
              Please don't extend your cross posting / What does abstract mean? (Was: Postgres is in C!) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 23:05 +0200
              Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java (was: Re: Postgres is in C!) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-30 21:20 +0800
                Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 06:59 -0700
                Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 07:24 -0700
                Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-05 09:58 +0800
                Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-30 23:19 +0800
                Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 09:23 -0700
                Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 09:36 -0700
                Decorum (was: Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-31 23:07 +0800
                Re: Decorum Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-31 23:09 +0800
                Re: Decorum Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-31 08:36 -0700
                Re: Decorum Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-31 08:44 -0700
                Re: Decorum Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-05 10:38 +0800
                Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-05 10:15 +0800
                Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-08-04 23:31 -0700
                Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-05 12:42 -0700
                Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-08-05 13:24 -0700
                Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-05 13:30 -0700
                Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-08-05 13:45 -0700
                Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-08-05 20:42 -0700
                Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-07 09:55 +0800
                Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-08-07 05:13 -0700
                Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-08-07 05:59 -0700
                Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-07 09:53 +0800
                Re: Mars, the MIPS emulator in Java Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-08-06 20:11 -0700
            Hack ecosystem ignorance paired with paranoia [Nand to Tetris] (Re: Postgres is in C!) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 22:49 +0200
              A funny Q16.16 experiment with Hack (Was: Hack ecosystem ignorance paired with paranoia [Nand to Tetris]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 23:10 +0200
                Summer Challenge: libSQL = Prolog+Modes [VDBE versus π-WAM] (Re: A funny Q16.16 experiment with Hack) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-30 11:27 +0200
                Re: Bullshit Authorized by Sarah Connor [EyeProlog Failure] (Re: Summer Challenge: libSQL = Prolog+Modes [VDBE versus π-WAM]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-12 20:30 +0200
              RCan library(ironpaw) repurpose FFT hardware [Glimps into Ryzen AI 7 350] (Re: Hack ecosystem ignorance paired with paranoia) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-01 02:33 +0200
              Can library(ironpaw) repurpose FFT hardware [Glimps into Ryzen AI 7 350] (Re: Hack ecosystem ignorance paired with paranoia) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-01 02:34 +0200
            Turbo Vison, again (was: Re: Postgres is in C!) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-30 21:31 +0800
      He uses "FIFO objects", and DMA and Noc [Glimps into Ryzen AI 7 350] (Re: A brain desease of 20 days [Rossy Boy])) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-01 12:15 +0200
        Tablet and phone UBS-C remote debugging (Re: He uses "FIFO objects", and DMA and Noc) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-01 12:18 +0200
          NPUs doing 2d chess comms (Manhattan Distance or L1 Norm) (Re: Tablet and phone UBS-C remote debugging) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-01 14:11 +0200
            NACK retransmission might double Manhattan Distance (Re: NPUs doing 2d chess comms) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-01 14:23 +0200
  Rossy Boy is neither Einstein nor Zweistein (Re: Viswath & Charmaigne) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 21:18 +0200
    Re: Rossy Boy is neither Einstein nor Zweistein (Re: Viswath & Charmaigne) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-27 15:35 -0700
      Clueless about MIMD as usual [Flynn's Taxonomy] (Was: Rossy Boy is neither Einstein nor Zweistein) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-28 11:25 +0200
        Re: Clueless about MIMD as usual [Flynn's Taxonomy] (Was: Rossy Boy is neither Einstein nor Zweistein) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-28 20:39 -0700
          confused rossy boy is confused (Was: Clueless about MIMD as usual [Flynn's Taxonomy]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 11:15 +0200
            Gemini, DeepSeek, OpenAI more clever than rossy boy (Was: confused rossy boy is confused) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 11:18 +0200
            Re: confused rossy boy is confused (Was: Clueless about MIMD as usual [Flynn's Taxonomy]) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-29 17:21 +0800
              In AI Acceleration nobody cares about CivetWeb (Was: confused rossy boy is confused) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 11:27 +0200
                Re: In AI Acceleration nobody cares about CivetWeb (Was: confused rossy boy is confused) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-29 17:40 +0800
                Your strictness is your problem , not mine [See WebLLM] (Was: In AI Acceleration nobody cares about CivetWeb) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 11:46 +0200
                Graphics Processing with Fortran 77 (was: Re: Your strictness is your problem , not mine) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-29 18:10 +0800
                I am not in C, it is theory and C++ [Hybrid Approaches from KOAN/Fortran-S] (Was: Graphics Processing with Fortran 77) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 12:43 +0200
                Java picky concerning JIT-ing [Luckier with C++/C or FORTRAN compilers?] (Re: I am not in C, it is theory and C++) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 12:53 +0200
                Run with minimum HTTPS and .mjs type (Re: In AI Acceleration nobody cares about CivetWeb) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 11:48 +0200
                Lamas in a cradle and Lamas on the edge [Red Pyjama] (Was: Run with minimum HTTPS and .mjs type) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 13:05 +0200
                Synthetic Multilanguage Autoformalization Dataset [Informath project] (Re: Lamas in a cradle and Lamas on the edge [Red Pyjama]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-08 09:22 +0200
                Six Proofs and Generally Inteligent Systems [EyeProlog Pseudo Scientism] (Re: Synthetic Multilanguage Autoformalization Dataset [Informath project]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-15 15:20 +0200
                Everybody does eat and sleep [The SK hynix Story] (Re: Six Proofs and Generally Inteligent Systems [EyeProlog Pseudo Scientism]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-15 18:49 +0200
              Re: confused rossy boy is confused (Was: Clueless about MIMD as usual [Flynn's Taxonomy]) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 14:42 -0700
                Even send_color and recv_color can block [Cerebras Waver] (Was: confused rossy boy is confused) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-02 23:37 +0200
                Re: Even send_color and recv_color can block [Cerebras Waver] (Was: confused rossy boy is confused) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-02 14:40 -0700
                Re: Even send_color and recv_color can block [Cerebras Waver] (Was: confused rossy boy is confused) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-02 14:43 -0700
                You don't understand that compute shaders are tasks (Was: Even send_color and recv_color can block [Cerebras Waver]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-02 23:45 +0200
                You don't understand that compute shaders are tasks (Re: Even send_color and recv_color can block [Cerebras Waver]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-02 23:46 +0200
                Ignoramus / Ignorabimus Barometer: Almost 1 Month (Re: You don't understand that compute shaders are tasks) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-03 00:09 +0200
                Homework: Game Engine in WebGPU (Re: Ignoramus / Ignorabimus Barometer: Almost 1 Month) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-03 02:08 +0200
                Re: Homework: Game Engine in WebGPU (Re: Ignoramus / Ignorabimus Barometer: Almost 1 Month) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-03 11:55 -0700
                You are not correctly thinking (Was: Homework: Game Engine in WebGPU) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-03 21:04 +0200
                Re: You are not correctly thinking (Was: Homework: Game Engine in WebGPU) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-03 12:32 -0700
                You don't understand the economy of an AI Laptop (Was: You are not correctly thinking) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-03 22:24 +0200
                You don't understand producer , workers , consumer (Was: You don't understand the economy of an AI Laptop ) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-03 22:37 +0200
                Re: You don't understand producer , workers , consumer (Was: You don't understand the economy of an AI Laptop ) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-03 14:29 -0700
                Know nothing and forget what you posted day before (Was: You don't understand producer , workers , consumer) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-03 23:38 +0200
  Re: Viswath & Charmaigne (vector-wide scalar-word and character machines) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 06:49 -0700
    Re: Viswath & Charmaigne (vector-wide scalar-word and character machines) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 14:55 -0700
    Re: Viswath & Charmaigne (vector-wide scalar-word and character machines) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-31 12:55 -0700
      Re: Viswath & Charmaigne (vector-wide scalar-word and character machines) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-31 13:05 -0700
  Ljubljana School versus Zurich School (Was: Viswath & Charmaigne) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-03 20:14 +0200
    Re: Ljubljana School versus Zurich School (Was: Viswath & Charmaigne) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-04 02:21 +0800
      pi-WAM uses ADA RendezVous (Was: Ljubljana School versus Zurich School) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-03 20:35 +0200
        A spinlock rewrite will be necessary (Was: pi-WAM uses ADA RendezVous) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-03 21:00 +0200
    Big thanks to Ljubljana School [Searching 0xCAFFEE] (Was: Ljubljana School versus Zurich School) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-03 20:40 +0200
    The Paul Armer Square Revisited (Was: "Mathematics in the Age of AI") Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-19 23:51 +0200
      Re: The Paul Armer Square Revisited (Was: "Mathematics in the Age of AI") Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-20 13:18 +0200
      Communism will Save Us! [Pivot Russia for China] (Re: The Paul Armer Square Revisited) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-20 14:22 +0200
        How to increase your "Convincingness" [Anthropic AI Text Hacked] (Re: The Paul Armer Square Revisited) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-20 19:38 +0200
          Reality of Proof Assistants / Coding [Luhmans Zettelkasten] (Re: Free Speech for (my) Robots) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-20 20:22 +0200
    Peking School versus Ljubljana School [Everything Is a Plugin] (Was: Ljubljana School versus Zurich School) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-21 17:43 +0200

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