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| From | "Bill Horne" <digest-replies@telecomdigest.net> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.dcom.telecom |
| Subject | Re: [telecom] Congress moves to preserve AM radio in cars |
| Date | 2023-05-23 10:25 -0400 |
| Organization | The Telecom Digest |
| Message-ID | <20230523142546.GA357720@telecomdigest.us> (permalink) |
| References | <u4artd$vcr$1@usenet.csail.mit.edu> <20230521204500.A8B9EDDEEAF2@ary.qy> <accf3565f4114b2db0c466354ec7fce1@mishmash.com> |
On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 05:31:07AM +0000, Fred Atkinson wrote: > > From: submissions@telecom-digest.org on behalf of John Levine > > <johnl@iecc.com> > > > It appears that Garrett Wollman <wollman@bimajority.org> said: > >> And guess what? Your phone gets the same emergency alerts as the radio > >> stations do. That excuse simply doesn't hold water any more. > > > I'm guessing you don't spend a lot of time driving around out in the > > boondocks. > > > As soon as you get off main roads in a hilly area, cell signals are > > hit and miss. Here in not particularly rural upstate NY I can show > > you places on state highways where there's no cell signal at all. I > > expect western Mass is the same way. > > The problem is that if our Internet goes down, we won't get those alerts. > > The entire AM band is not going down all at once. The entire AM band is not going down at all: in 1971(1), the Emergency Alert System was accidentally triggered when a U.S. Government employee ran a paper tape to send a teletype message which should have been a routine weekly test, but turned out to be an emergency alert. The tape which was used was right next to the one which was supposed to be sent; the employee picked up the wrong tape. The Pentagon expected there to be widespread panic, immediate mass stampedes toward "Fallout Shelters," and that all but "Conelrad" AM stations would cease operation. None of it happened. The few people whom heard the alert shrugged their shoulders, kissed their loved ones goodbye, and settled down in their living rooms to await their deaths - or decided that it was a mistake, and went about their business. By and large, no one showed up at any "Fallout Shelter:" in the first place, very few citizens knew where they were or what they were intended to be used for, and in the second, they were almost all aware of the impossibility of surviving a nuclear war, and just decided that they'd be dead in a few minutes and should enjoy the time they had left. As for the "Conelrad" system, it didn't work. Radio station managers demanded that their employees stay on the air and keep running the oh-so-profitable ads for soap that they'd been running before the alert was sent out. The whole episode was quickly dismissed and explained away by the new and improved generation of blow-dried airheads that has taken over from the real reporters of the World War II era, and the populace was reassured that nothing was wrong and they could go back to buying soap and being obedient. It was a repeat of the "Duck and Cover" drills my generation of youngsters was forced to undergo during our grade-school years, until a few exceptional young students (including Joan Baez) told their teachers that they didn't want to play the government's game and didn't want to pretend that ducking or covering would make any difference. In other words, the whole edifice of the "Civil Defense" network and its alerting system crashed of its own weight, in the face of bluntly stated evidene from oh-so-onery free thinkers that it was all psychological warfare, following a military map left over from the days when "right thinking" Americans were expected to do what they were told without question. The current version of the emergency alert system has been redesigned to carry warnings of tornado, floods, missing children, and (of course) immenent nuclear destruction. That was a clever move, since it both provided some actual benefits to a jaded public, and convinced that same public to actually pay attention to the alerts in the first place. Until, that is, 2018: in Hawaii, a government employee accidentally tripped a warning of an impending missile attack, and caused yet another generation of blow-dried airheads to swing into action and snap to attention and explain it all away again. Bill Horne, who believes in Ghod and Senator Dodd and keeping old Castro down 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Emergency_Message Copyright © 2023 E. William Horne. All Rights Reserved.
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[telecom] Congress moves to preserve AM radio in cars "danny burstein" <dannyb@panix.com> - 2023-05-18 12:48 +0000
Re: [telecom] Congress moves to preserve AM radio in cars "Bill Horne" <malQRMassimilation@gmail.com> - 2023-05-18 11:13 -0400
Re: [telecom] Congress moves to preserve AM radio in cars "Marco Moock" <mo01@posteo.de> - 2023-05-19 08:41 +0200
Re: [telecom] Congress moves to preserve AM radio in cars "Bill Horne" <malQRMassimilation@gmail.com> - 2023-05-19 18:22 -0400
Re: [telecom] Congress moves to preserve AM radio in cars "Michael Trew" <michael.trew@att.net> - 2023-05-19 23:44 -0400
Re: [telecom] Congress moves to preserve AM radio in cars "Bill Horne" <malQRMassimilation@gmail.com> - 2023-05-20 09:52 -0400
Re: [telecom] Congress moves to preserve AM radio in cars "Garrett Wollman" <wollman@bimajority.org> - 2023-05-20 16:51 +0000
Re: [telecom] Congress moves to preserve AM radio in cars "Garrett Wollman" <wollman@bimajority.org> - 2023-05-20 16:18 +0000
Re: [telecom] Congress moves to preserve AM radio in cars "John Levine" <johnl@iecc.com> - 2023-05-21 16:45 -0400
Re: [telecom] Congress moves to preserve AM radio in cars "Fred Atkinson" <fatkinson@mishmash.com> - 2023-05-23 05:31 +0000
Re: [telecom] Congress moves to preserve AM radio in cars "Bill Horne" <digest-replies@telecomdigest.net> - 2023-05-23 10:25 -0400
Re: [telecom] Congress moves to preserve AM radio in cars "Garrett Wollman" <wollman@bimajority.org> - 2023-05-23 20:07 +0000
Re: [telecom] Congress moves to preserve AM radio in cars "Fred Atkinson" <fatkinson@mishmash.com> - 2023-05-24 22:30 +0000
Re: [telecom] Congress moves to preserve AM radio in cars "Garrett Wollman" <wollman@bimajority.org> - 2023-05-25 21:25 +0000
Re: [telecom] Congress moves to preserve AM radio in cars "Fred Atkinson" <fatkinson@mishmash.com> - 2023-05-26 20:31 +0000
Re: [telecom] Congress moves to preserve AM radio in cars "Garrett Wollman" <wollman@bimajority.org> - 2023-05-27 21:17 +0000
Re: [telecom] Congress moves to preserve AM radio in cars "Bill Horne" <digest-replies@telecomdigest.net> - 2023-05-28 18:28 -0400
Re: [telecom] Congress moves to preserve AM radio in cars "Fred Goldstein" <invalid@see-sig.invalid> - 2023-05-30 11:24 -0400
Re: [telecom] Congress moves to preserve AM radio in cars "Bill Horne" <digest-replies@telecomdigest.net> - 2023-05-30 13:13 -0400
RE: [telecom] Congress moves to preserve AM radio in cars "Patton Turner" <address-withheld@invalid.telecom-digest.org> - 2023-05-31 02:06 +0000
Re: [telecom] Congress moves to preserve AM radio in cars "Bill Horne" <digest-replies@telecomdigest.net> - 2023-05-23 08:39 -0400
Re: [telecom] Congress moves to preserve AM radio in cars "Fred Goldstein" <invalid@see-sig.invalid> - 2023-05-23 11:30 -0400
Re: [telecom] Congress moves to preserve AM radio in cars "Michael Trew" <michael.trew@att.net> - 2023-05-30 15:57 -0400
Re: [telecom] Congress moves to preserve AM radio in cars "Bill Horne" <digest-replies@telecomdigest.net> - 2023-05-31 09:07 -0400
Re: [telecom] Congress moves to preserve AM radio in cars "Marco Moock" <mo01@posteo.de> - 2023-05-31 16:54 +0200
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