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Access 2000 Developer Edition? croy <hate@spam.invalid.net> - 2014-03-15 07:28 -0700
Re: Access 2000 Developer Edition? "Access Developer" <accdevel@gmail.com> - 2014-03-15 22:05 -0500
Re: Access 2000 Developer Edition? croy <hate@spam.invalid.net> - 2014-03-16 10:25 -0700
Re: Access 2000 Developer Edition? "Access Developer" <accdevel@gmail.com> - 2014-03-16 16:45 -0500
Re: Access 2000 Developer Edition? "Access Developer" <accdevel@gmail.com> - 2014-03-17 21:00 -0500
Re: Access 2000 Developer Edition? "Access Developer" <accdevel@gmail.com> - 2014-03-18 00:54 -0500
Re: Access 2000 Developer Edition? croy <hate@spam.invalid.net> - 2014-03-19 16:33 -0700
Re: Access 2000 Developer Edition? "Access Developer" <accdevel@gmail.com> - 2014-03-20 01:17 -0500
Re: Access 2000 Developer Edition? "Access Developer" <accdevel@gmail.com> - 2014-03-20 01:20 -0500
Re: Access 2000 Developer Edition? "PR" <randlov_(remove this)@post9.tele.dk> - 2014-03-22 21:04 +0100
Re: Access 2000 Developer Edition? "Access Developer" <accdevel@gmail.com> - 2014-03-23 14:13 -0500
| From | croy <hate@spam.invalid.net> |
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| Date | 2014-03-15 07:28 -0700 |
| Subject | Access 2000 Developer Edition? |
| Message-ID | <0no8i918k7aufao806intvft1mhrku3bt3@4ax.com> |
I'm running Access 2000, and I'd like to be able to distribute a database "application" I built to a few family members. Is it still possible to get the developer's whatever for Access 2000? -- Thanks, croy
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| From | "Access Developer" <accdevel@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-03-15 22:05 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <bokindFl3pqU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #9159 |
Not from Microsoft, but there are unsold, unopened, unused copies of many versions of most software _somewhere_. The problem is finding them available from a reliable source. Just today, at my computer users group meeting, one of my colleagues was describing someone who came to him with a computer loaded with Microsoft software purchased via an online auction which turned out to be 'bogus', pirated, and unable to be registered. Fortunately for the person, with a lot of effort, he got his money back, reported the piracy to Microsoft and Microsoft sent him a free, licensed copy of the same software. On the other hand, I've talked to people who've purchased software from eBay, were careful to demand unused, unopened, unregistered software with the original key, and had a good experience. I had a personal acquaintance who wanted a Developer Edition of Office 97, and found one that was 'new, unused', but had to pay a premium price (in Access 2000 days, before the SPs that resolved A2000's issues). I've recently seen some copies of Access 2003 advertised on eBay, but no "runtime" noted. Perhaps you could get each of them a copy of Access 2003 for a reasonable price -- that should run your Access 2000 database. If you can find, local to you, a dealer who resells back versions (and has a good reputation), that would likely be the best source; if anything goes wrong, you know who to go to get the issue addressed. There once were several in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, but I haven't done any business with any of them in 20+ years. -- Larry Linson Microsoft Office Access MVP Co-Author, Microsoft Access Small Business Solutions, Wiley 2010 "croy" <hate@spam.invalid.net> wrote in message news:0no8i918k7aufao806intvft1mhrku3bt3@4ax.com... > I'm running Access 2000, and I'd like to be able to > distribute a database "application" I built to a few family > members. > > Is it still possible to get the developer's whatever for > Access 2000? > > -- > Thanks, > croy
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| From | croy <hate@spam.invalid.net> |
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| Date | 2014-03-16 10:25 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <8inbi9pm954t073b47l0qhtle9lajkc6ir@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #9162 |
On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 22:05:16 -0500, "Access Developer" <accdevel@gmail.com> wrote: >Not from Microsoft, but there are unsold, unopened, unused copies of many >versions of most software _somewhere_. The problem is finding them >available from a reliable source. Just today, at my computer users group >meeting, one of my colleagues was describing someone who came to him with a >computer loaded with Microsoft software purchased via an online auction >which turned out to be 'bogus', pirated, and unable to be registered. >Fortunately for the person, with a lot of effort, he got his money back, >reported the piracy to Microsoft and Microsoft sent him a free, licensed >copy of the same software. > >On the other hand, I've talked to people who've purchased software from >eBay, were careful to demand unused, unopened, unregistered software with >the original key, and had a good experience. I had a personal acquaintance >who wanted a Developer Edition of Office 97, and found one that was 'new, >unused', but had to pay a premium price (in Access 2000 days, before the SPs >that resolved A2000's issues). > >I've recently seen some copies of Access 2003 advertised on eBay, but no >"runtime" noted. Perhaps you could get each of them a copy of Access 2003 >for a reasonable price -- that should run your Access 2000 database. > >If you can find, local to you, a dealer who resells back versions (and has a >good reputation), that would likely be the best source; if anything goes >wrong, you know who to go to get the issue addressed. There once were >several in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, but I haven't done any business with >any of them in 20+ years. Good info--much appreciated. Thanks Larry -- croy
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| From | "Access Developer" <accdevel@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-03-16 16:45 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <bomkc3F3v87U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #9163 |
Flash of memory: Computer's Worth, http://www.computersworth.com/. As I said, it's been about 20 years since I did any business with them, but when I did, they were seamless transactions transactions when I did (several in person at computer swap meets, and one by phone). But, take a look at http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/office/en-US/474b62c6-a9f7-404f-84b2-dd0d1ee4aa01/switching-to-access-2010-to-handle-all-versions-of-access-applications?forum=officesetupdeployprevious to see if the free-for-the-download Access 2010 runtime will handle your Access 2000 databases. I have some recollection of hearing that the (also free for the download) Access 2007 runtime will run some earlier versions, but I don't have a reference. If you can use one of those, it'll certainly be the least expensive alternative. -- Larry Linson Microsoft Office Access MVP Co-Author, Microsoft Access Small Business Solutions, Wiley 2010 "croy" <hate@spam.invalid.net> wrote in message news:8inbi9pm954t073b47l0qhtle9lajkc6ir@4ax.com... > On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 22:05:16 -0500, "Access Developer" > <accdevel@gmail.com> wrote: > >>Not from Microsoft, but there are unsold, unopened, unused copies of many >>versions of most software _somewhere_. The problem is finding them >>available from a reliable source. Just today, at my computer users group >>meeting, one of my colleagues was describing someone who came to him with >>a >>computer loaded with Microsoft software purchased via an online auction >>which turned out to be 'bogus', pirated, and unable to be registered. >>Fortunately for the person, with a lot of effort, he got his money back, >>reported the piracy to Microsoft and Microsoft sent him a free, licensed >>copy of the same software. >> >>On the other hand, I've talked to people who've purchased software from >>eBay, were careful to demand unused, unopened, unregistered software with >>the original key, and had a good experience. I had a personal acquaintance >>who wanted a Developer Edition of Office 97, and found one that was 'new, >>unused', but had to pay a premium price (in Access 2000 days, before the >>SPs >>that resolved A2000's issues). >> >>I've recently seen some copies of Access 2003 advertised on eBay, but no >>"runtime" noted. Perhaps you could get each of them a copy of Access 2003 >>for a reasonable price -- that should run your Access 2000 database. >> >>If you can find, local to you, a dealer who resells back versions (and has >>a >>good reputation), that would likely be the best source; if anything goes >>wrong, you know who to go to get the issue addressed. There once were >>several in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, but I haven't done any business >>with >>any of them in 20+ years. > > Good info--much appreciated. > > Thanks Larry > > -- > croy
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| From | "Access Developer" <accdevel@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-03-17 21:00 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <bopnleFo3msU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #9163 |
The folks at FMS, Inc. (a noted seller of Access software, etc.) have a page
summarizing use of runtimes, and it appears that you'll need to convert your
database to v 2003 (should not be a problem -- I've never encountered a
problem with 2000 -> 2003), then get Office Developer Extensions for Office
2003, and download and use the runtime that matches the Office installed on
the user's system (if you use Spell Check, for instance).
http://www.fmsinc.com/MicrosoftAccess/runtime/index.htm
Thanks to Luke Chung and his colleagues at FMS for gathering and posting the
information.
--
Larry Linson
Microsoft Office Access MVP
Co-Author, Microsoft Access Small Business Solutions, Wiley 2010
"croy" <hate@spam.invalid.net> wrote in message
news:8inbi9pm954t073b47l0qhtle9lajkc6ir@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 22:05:16 -0500, "Access Developer"
> <accdevel@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Not from Microsoft, but there are unsold, unopened, unused copies of many
>>versions of most software _somewhere_. The problem is finding them
>>available from a reliable source. Just today, at my computer users group
>>meeting, one of my colleagues was describing someone who came to him with
>>a
>>computer loaded with Microsoft software purchased via an online auction
>>which turned out to be 'bogus', pirated, and unable to be registered.
>>Fortunately for the person, with a lot of effort, he got his money back,
>>reported the piracy to Microsoft and Microsoft sent him a free, licensed
>>copy of the same software.
>>
>>On the other hand, I've talked to people who've purchased software from
>>eBay, were careful to demand unused, unopened, unregistered software with
>>the original key, and had a good experience. I had a personal acquaintance
>>who wanted a Developer Edition of Office 97, and found one that was 'new,
>>unused', but had to pay a premium price (in Access 2000 days, before the
>>SPs
>>that resolved A2000's issues).
>>
>>I've recently seen some copies of Access 2003 advertised on eBay, but no
>>"runtime" noted. Perhaps you could get each of them a copy of Access 2003
>>for a reasonable price -- that should run your Access 2000 database.
>>
>>If you can find, local to you, a dealer who resells back versions (and has
>>a
>>good reputation), that would likely be the best source; if anything goes
>>wrong, you know who to go to get the issue addressed. There once were
>>several in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, but I haven't done any business
>>with
>>any of them in 20+ years.
>
> Good info--much appreciated.
>
> Thanks Larry
>
> --
> croy
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| From | "Access Developer" <accdevel@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-03-18 00:54 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <boq5dbFqhukU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #9167 |
More on running older verson Access databases under Access 2007, 2010, or 2013 runtimes. Access MVP Paul Baldy told me that he'd tried a couple of Access 2000 databases and didn't have problems, but he didn't suggest that _every_ Access 2000 would. -- Larry Linson Microsoft Office Access MVP Co-Author, Microsoft Access Small Business Solutions, Wiley 2010 "Access Developer" <accdevel@gmail.com> wrote in message news:bopnleFo3msU1@mid.individual.net... > The folks at FMS, Inc. (a noted seller of Access software, etc.) have a > page summarizing use of runtimes, and it appears that you'll need to > convert your database to v 2003 (should not be a problem -- I've never > encountered a problem with 2000 -> 2003), then get Office Developer > Extensions for Office 2003, and download and use the runtime that matches > the Office installed on the user's system (if you use Spell Check, for > instance). > > http://www.fmsinc.com/MicrosoftAccess/runtime/index.htm > > Thanks to Luke Chung and his colleagues at FMS for gathering and posting > the information. > > -- > Larry Linson > Microsoft Office Access MVP > Co-Author, Microsoft Access Small Business Solutions, Wiley 2010 > > "croy" <hate@spam.invalid.net> wrote in message > news:8inbi9pm954t073b47l0qhtle9lajkc6ir@4ax.com... >> On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 22:05:16 -0500, "Access Developer" >> <accdevel@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>Not from Microsoft, but there are unsold, unopened, unused copies of many >>>versions of most software _somewhere_. The problem is finding them >>>available from a reliable source. Just today, at my computer users group >>>meeting, one of my colleagues was describing someone who came to him with >>>a >>>computer loaded with Microsoft software purchased via an online auction >>>which turned out to be 'bogus', pirated, and unable to be registered. >>>Fortunately for the person, with a lot of effort, he got his money back, >>>reported the piracy to Microsoft and Microsoft sent him a free, licensed >>>copy of the same software. >>> >>>On the other hand, I've talked to people who've purchased software from >>>eBay, were careful to demand unused, unopened, unregistered software with >>>the original key, and had a good experience. I had a personal >>>acquaintance >>>who wanted a Developer Edition of Office 97, and found one that was 'new, >>>unused', but had to pay a premium price (in Access 2000 days, before the >>>SPs >>>that resolved A2000's issues). >>> >>>I've recently seen some copies of Access 2003 advertised on eBay, but no >>>"runtime" noted. Perhaps you could get each of them a copy of Access >>>2003 >>>for a reasonable price -- that should run your Access 2000 database. >>> >>>If you can find, local to you, a dealer who resells back versions (and >>>has a >>>good reputation), that would likely be the best source; if anything goes >>>wrong, you know who to go to get the issue addressed. There once were >>>several in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, but I haven't done any business >>>with >>>any of them in 20+ years. >> >> Good info--much appreciated. >> >> Thanks Larry >> >> -- >> croy > >
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| From | croy <hate@spam.invalid.net> |
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| Date | 2014-03-19 16:33 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <kt9ki9d01gj143ru8f6o7ub9dalq983tkp@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #9169 |
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 00:54:52 -0500, "Access Developer" <accdevel@gmail.com> wrote: >More on running older verson Access databases under Access 2007, 2010, or >2013 runtimes. Access MVP Paul Baldy told me that he'd tried a couple of >Access 2000 databases and didn't have problems, but he didn't suggest that >_every_ Access 2000 would. Well, after all the wonderfull info you've come up with here, I am persistently confused. I've seen a few websites that offer some sort of application built with Access 2000, and they say that if you don't have Access 2000 installed, you'll have to download the free Access 2000 runtime, and install that first. Does that mean that if I send my family photos database, built with Access 2000, to my sister, who doesn't have Access installed at all, that she could install the Access 2000 Runtime, and then be able to use (view) the family photos database? I rummaged thru my old software CDs, and found the ART2000, apparently downloaded from Microsoft a number of years ago. Thanks for all your kind help. -- croy
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| From | "Access Developer" <accdevel@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-03-20 01:17 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <bovffqFuga5U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #9172 |
What I concluded from my investigations and a discussion in a private newsgroup is (if you use some features such as the spell checker) you should try to run it under the runtime that matches the version of Office loaded on the user's computer. -- Larry Linson Microsoft Office Access MVP Co-Author, Microsoft Access Small Business Solutions, Wiley 2010 "croy" <hate@spam.invalid.net> wrote in message news:kt9ki9d01gj143ru8f6o7ub9dalq983tkp@4ax.com... > On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 00:54:52 -0500, "Access Developer" > <accdevel@gmail.com> wrote: > >>More on running older verson Access databases under Access 2007, 2010, or >>2013 runtimes. Access MVP Paul Baldy told me that he'd tried a couple of >>Access 2000 databases and didn't have problems, but he didn't suggest that >>_every_ Access 2000 would. > > Well, after all the wonderfull info you've come up with > here, I am persistently confused. > > I've seen a few websites that offer some sort of application > built with Access 2000, and they say that if you don't have > Access 2000 installed, you'll have to download the free > Access 2000 runtime, and install that first. > > Does that mean that if I send my family photos database, > built with Access 2000, to my sister, who doesn't have > Access installed at all, that she could install the Access > 2000 Runtime, and then be able to use (view) the family > photos database? > > I rummaged thru my old software CDs, and found the ART2000, > apparently downloaded from Microsoft a number of years ago. > > Thanks for all your kind help. > > -- > croy
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| From | "Access Developer" <accdevel@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-03-20 01:20 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <bovfkjF13gU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #9172 |
"croy" <hate@spam.invalid.net> wrote > Thanks for all your kind help. You are most welcome. I'm happy if I was able to help. -- Larry Linson Microsoft Office Access MVP Co-Author, Microsoft Access Small Business Solutions, Wiley 2010
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| From | "PR" <randlov_(remove this)@post9.tele.dk> |
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| Date | 2014-03-22 21:04 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <532decc2$0$51269$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk> |
| In reply to | #9174 |
Hi Croy I have a very large database (about 20.000 fields and lots of VBA code). It is originally developed in Access 2000 and now maintained with Access 2003. In the beginning it was distributed with the expensive Access 2000 runtime version, which also was tricky to install. However, it runs flawlesly with all later free runtime-version, and is presently distributed with MS Access 2010 runtime, and no users have complained. Since each field represent a photo in .jpg format the database is now more than 8GB so I have to distribute on an USB-stick including the 2010 runtime-software and it works without problems. Peter
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| From | "Access Developer" <accdevel@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-03-23 14:13 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <bp8q2sFpjU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #9178 |
Thanks, it is good to have confirmation from someone who's actually 'been there, done that, got the t-shirt', rather than those of us just quoting what Microsoft says, and second-hand statements. -- Larry Linson Microsoft Office Access MVP Co-Author, Microsoft Access Small Business Solutions, Wiley 2010 "PR" <randlov_(remove this)@post9.tele.dk> wrote in message news:532decc2$0$51269$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk... > Hi Croy > I have a very large database (about 20.000 fields and lots of VBA code). > It is originally developed in Access 2000 and now maintained with Access > 2003. In the beginning it was distributed with the expensive Access 2000 > runtime version, which also was tricky to install. However, it runs > flawlesly with all later free runtime-version, and is presently > distributed with MS Access 2010 runtime, and no users have complained. > Since each field represent a photo in .jpg format the database is now more > than 8GB so I have to distribute on an USB-stick including the 2010 > runtime-software and it works without problems. > Peter
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