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  Access 2000 Developer Edition? croy <hate@spam.invalid.net> - 2014-03-15 07:28 -0700
    Re: Access 2000 Developer Edition? "Access Developer" <accdevel@gmail.com> - 2014-03-15 22:05 -0500
      Re: Access 2000 Developer Edition? croy <hate@spam.invalid.net> - 2014-03-16 10:25 -0700
        Re: Access 2000 Developer Edition? "Access Developer" <accdevel@gmail.com> - 2014-03-16 16:45 -0500
        Re: Access 2000 Developer Edition? "Access Developer" <accdevel@gmail.com> - 2014-03-17 21:00 -0500
          Re: Access 2000 Developer Edition? "Access Developer" <accdevel@gmail.com> - 2014-03-18 00:54 -0500
            Re: Access 2000 Developer Edition? croy <hate@spam.invalid.net> - 2014-03-19 16:33 -0700
              Re: Access 2000 Developer Edition? "Access Developer" <accdevel@gmail.com> - 2014-03-20 01:17 -0500
              Re: Access 2000 Developer Edition? "Access Developer" <accdevel@gmail.com> - 2014-03-20 01:20 -0500
                Re: Access 2000 Developer Edition? "PR" <randlov_(remove this)@post9.tele.dk> - 2014-03-22 21:04 +0100
                  Re: Access 2000 Developer Edition? "Access Developer" <accdevel@gmail.com> - 2014-03-23 14:13 -0500

#9159 — Access 2000 Developer Edition?

I'm running Access 2000, and I'd like to be able to
distribute a database "application" I built to a few family
members.

Is it still possible to get the developer's whatever for
Access 2000?

-- 
Thanks,
croy

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#9162

Not from Microsoft, but there are unsold, unopened, unused copies of many 
versions of most software _somewhere_.  The problem is finding them 
available from a reliable source. Just today, at my computer users group 
meeting, one of my colleagues was describing someone who came to him with a 
computer loaded with Microsoft software purchased via an online auction 
which turned out to be 'bogus', pirated, and unable to be registered. 
Fortunately for the person, with a lot of effort, he got his money back, 
reported the piracy to Microsoft and Microsoft sent him a free, licensed 
copy of the same software.

On the other hand, I've talked to people who've purchased software from 
eBay, were careful to demand unused, unopened, unregistered software with 
the original key, and had a good experience. I had a personal acquaintance 
who wanted a Developer Edition of Office 97, and found one that was 'new, 
unused', but had to pay a premium price (in Access 2000 days, before the SPs 
that resolved A2000's issues).

I've recently seen some copies of Access 2003 advertised on eBay, but no 
"runtime" noted.  Perhaps you could get each of them a copy of Access 2003 
for a reasonable price -- that should run your Access 2000 database.

If you can find, local to you, a dealer who resells back versions (and has a 
good reputation), that would likely be the best source; if anything goes 
wrong, you know who to go to get the issue addressed. There once were 
several in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, but I haven't done any business with 
any of them in 20+ years.

 -- 
 Larry Linson
  Microsoft Office Access MVP
  Co-Author, Microsoft Access Small Business Solutions, Wiley 2010

"croy" <hate@spam.invalid.net> wrote in message 
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> I'm running Access 2000, and I'd like to be able to
> distribute a database "application" I built to a few family
> members.
>
> Is it still possible to get the developer's whatever for
> Access 2000?
>
> -- 
> Thanks,
> croy 

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#9163

On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 22:05:16 -0500, "Access Developer"
<accdevel@gmail.com> wrote:

>Not from Microsoft, but there are unsold, unopened, unused copies of many 
>versions of most software _somewhere_.  The problem is finding them 
>available from a reliable source. Just today, at my computer users group 
>meeting, one of my colleagues was describing someone who came to him with a 
>computer loaded with Microsoft software purchased via an online auction 
>which turned out to be 'bogus', pirated, and unable to be registered. 
>Fortunately for the person, with a lot of effort, he got his money back, 
>reported the piracy to Microsoft and Microsoft sent him a free, licensed 
>copy of the same software.
>
>On the other hand, I've talked to people who've purchased software from 
>eBay, were careful to demand unused, unopened, unregistered software with 
>the original key, and had a good experience. I had a personal acquaintance 
>who wanted a Developer Edition of Office 97, and found one that was 'new, 
>unused', but had to pay a premium price (in Access 2000 days, before the SPs 
>that resolved A2000's issues).
>
>I've recently seen some copies of Access 2003 advertised on eBay, but no 
>"runtime" noted.  Perhaps you could get each of them a copy of Access 2003 
>for a reasonable price -- that should run your Access 2000 database.
>
>If you can find, local to you, a dealer who resells back versions (and has a 
>good reputation), that would likely be the best source; if anything goes 
>wrong, you know who to go to get the issue addressed. There once were 
>several in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, but I haven't done any business with 
>any of them in 20+ years.

Good info--much appreciated.

Thanks Larry

-- 
croy

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#9164

Flash of memory: Computer's Worth, http://www.computersworth.com/. As I 
said, it's been about 20 years since I did any business with them, but when 
I did, they were seamless transactions transactions when I did (several in 
person at computer swap meets, and one by phone).

But, take a look at 
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/office/en-US/474b62c6-a9f7-404f-84b2-dd0d1ee4aa01/switching-to-access-2010-to-handle-all-versions-of-access-applications?forum=officesetupdeployprevious 
to see if the free-for-the-download Access 2010 runtime will handle your 
Access 2000 databases.  I have some recollection of hearing that the (also 
free for the download) Access 2007 runtime will run some earlier versions, 
but I don't have a reference.  If you can use one of those, it'll certainly 
be the least expensive alternative.

-- 
Larry Linson
  Microsoft Office Access MVP
  Co-Author, Microsoft Access Small Business Solutions, Wiley 2010

"croy" <hate@spam.invalid.net> wrote in message 
news:8inbi9pm954t073b47l0qhtle9lajkc6ir@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 22:05:16 -0500, "Access Developer"
> <accdevel@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Not from Microsoft, but there are unsold, unopened, unused copies of many
>>versions of most software _somewhere_.  The problem is finding them
>>available from a reliable source. Just today, at my computer users group
>>meeting, one of my colleagues was describing someone who came to him with 
>>a
>>computer loaded with Microsoft software purchased via an online auction
>>which turned out to be 'bogus', pirated, and unable to be registered.
>>Fortunately for the person, with a lot of effort, he got his money back,
>>reported the piracy to Microsoft and Microsoft sent him a free, licensed
>>copy of the same software.
>>
>>On the other hand, I've talked to people who've purchased software from
>>eBay, were careful to demand unused, unopened, unregistered software with
>>the original key, and had a good experience. I had a personal acquaintance
>>who wanted a Developer Edition of Office 97, and found one that was 'new,
>>unused', but had to pay a premium price (in Access 2000 days, before the 
>>SPs
>>that resolved A2000's issues).
>>
>>I've recently seen some copies of Access 2003 advertised on eBay, but no
>>"runtime" noted.  Perhaps you could get each of them a copy of Access 2003
>>for a reasonable price -- that should run your Access 2000 database.
>>
>>If you can find, local to you, a dealer who resells back versions (and has 
>>a
>>good reputation), that would likely be the best source; if anything goes
>>wrong, you know who to go to get the issue addressed. There once were
>>several in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, but I haven't done any business 
>>with
>>any of them in 20+ years.
>
> Good info--much appreciated.
>
> Thanks Larry
>
> -- 
> croy 

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#9167

The folks at FMS, Inc. (a noted seller of Access software, etc.) have a page 
summarizing use of runtimes, and it appears that you'll need to convert your 
database to v 2003 (should not be a problem -- I've never encountered a 
problem with 2000 -> 2003), then get Office Developer Extensions for Office 
2003, and download and use the runtime that matches the Office installed on 
the user's system (if you use Spell Check, for instance).

    http://www.fmsinc.com/MicrosoftAccess/runtime/index.htm

Thanks to Luke Chung and his colleagues at FMS for gathering and posting the 
information.

 -- 
 Larry Linson
  Microsoft Office Access MVP
  Co-Author, Microsoft Access Small Business Solutions, Wiley 2010

"croy" <hate@spam.invalid.net> wrote in message 
news:8inbi9pm954t073b47l0qhtle9lajkc6ir@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 22:05:16 -0500, "Access Developer"
> <accdevel@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Not from Microsoft, but there are unsold, unopened, unused copies of many
>>versions of most software _somewhere_.  The problem is finding them
>>available from a reliable source. Just today, at my computer users group
>>meeting, one of my colleagues was describing someone who came to him with 
>>a
>>computer loaded with Microsoft software purchased via an online auction
>>which turned out to be 'bogus', pirated, and unable to be registered.
>>Fortunately for the person, with a lot of effort, he got his money back,
>>reported the piracy to Microsoft and Microsoft sent him a free, licensed
>>copy of the same software.
>>
>>On the other hand, I've talked to people who've purchased software from
>>eBay, were careful to demand unused, unopened, unregistered software with
>>the original key, and had a good experience. I had a personal acquaintance
>>who wanted a Developer Edition of Office 97, and found one that was 'new,
>>unused', but had to pay a premium price (in Access 2000 days, before the 
>>SPs
>>that resolved A2000's issues).
>>
>>I've recently seen some copies of Access 2003 advertised on eBay, but no
>>"runtime" noted.  Perhaps you could get each of them a copy of Access 2003
>>for a reasonable price -- that should run your Access 2000 database.
>>
>>If you can find, local to you, a dealer who resells back versions (and has 
>>a
>>good reputation), that would likely be the best source; if anything goes
>>wrong, you know who to go to get the issue addressed. There once were
>>several in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, but I haven't done any business 
>>with
>>any of them in 20+ years.
>
> Good info--much appreciated.
>
> Thanks Larry
>
> -- 
> croy 

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#9169

More on running older verson Access databases under Access 2007, 2010, or 
2013 runtimes.  Access MVP Paul Baldy told me that he'd tried a couple of 
Access 2000 databases and didn't have problems, but he didn't suggest that 
_every_ Access 2000 would.

 -- 
 Larry Linson
  Microsoft Office Access MVP
  Co-Author, Microsoft Access Small Business Solutions, Wiley 2010

"Access Developer" <accdevel@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:bopnleFo3msU1@mid.individual.net...
> The folks at FMS, Inc. (a noted seller of Access software, etc.) have a 
> page summarizing use of runtimes, and it appears that you'll need to 
> convert your database to v 2003 (should not be a problem -- I've never 
> encountered a problem with 2000 -> 2003), then get Office Developer 
> Extensions for Office 2003, and download and use the runtime that matches 
> the Office installed on the user's system (if you use Spell Check, for 
> instance).
>
>    http://www.fmsinc.com/MicrosoftAccess/runtime/index.htm
>
> Thanks to Luke Chung and his colleagues at FMS for gathering and posting 
> the information.
>
> -- 
> Larry Linson
>  Microsoft Office Access MVP
>  Co-Author, Microsoft Access Small Business Solutions, Wiley 2010
>
> "croy" <hate@spam.invalid.net> wrote in message 
> news:8inbi9pm954t073b47l0qhtle9lajkc6ir@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 22:05:16 -0500, "Access Developer"
>> <accdevel@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Not from Microsoft, but there are unsold, unopened, unused copies of many
>>>versions of most software _somewhere_.  The problem is finding them
>>>available from a reliable source. Just today, at my computer users group
>>>meeting, one of my colleagues was describing someone who came to him with 
>>>a
>>>computer loaded with Microsoft software purchased via an online auction
>>>which turned out to be 'bogus', pirated, and unable to be registered.
>>>Fortunately for the person, with a lot of effort, he got his money back,
>>>reported the piracy to Microsoft and Microsoft sent him a free, licensed
>>>copy of the same software.
>>>
>>>On the other hand, I've talked to people who've purchased software from
>>>eBay, were careful to demand unused, unopened, unregistered software with
>>>the original key, and had a good experience. I had a personal 
>>>acquaintance
>>>who wanted a Developer Edition of Office 97, and found one that was 'new,
>>>unused', but had to pay a premium price (in Access 2000 days, before the 
>>>SPs
>>>that resolved A2000's issues).
>>>
>>>I've recently seen some copies of Access 2003 advertised on eBay, but no
>>>"runtime" noted.  Perhaps you could get each of them a copy of Access 
>>>2003
>>>for a reasonable price -- that should run your Access 2000 database.
>>>
>>>If you can find, local to you, a dealer who resells back versions (and 
>>>has a
>>>good reputation), that would likely be the best source; if anything goes
>>>wrong, you know who to go to get the issue addressed. There once were
>>>several in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, but I haven't done any business 
>>>with
>>>any of them in 20+ years.
>>
>> Good info--much appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks Larry
>>
>> -- 
>> croy
>
> 

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#9172

On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 00:54:52 -0500, "Access Developer"
<accdevel@gmail.com> wrote:

>More on running older verson Access databases under Access 2007, 2010, or 
>2013 runtimes.  Access MVP Paul Baldy told me that he'd tried a couple of 
>Access 2000 databases and didn't have problems, but he didn't suggest that 
>_every_ Access 2000 would.

Well, after all the wonderfull info you've come up with
here, I am persistently confused.

I've seen a few websites that offer some sort of application
built with Access 2000, and they say that if you don't have
Access 2000 installed, you'll have to download the free
Access 2000 runtime, and install that first.

Does that mean that if I send my family photos database,
built with Access 2000, to my sister, who doesn't have
Access installed at all, that she could install the Access
2000 Runtime, and then be able to use (view) the family
photos database?

I rummaged thru my old software CDs, and found the ART2000,
apparently downloaded from Microsoft a number of years ago.

Thanks for all your kind help.

-- 
croy

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#9173

What I concluded from my investigations and a discussion in a private 
newsgroup is (if you use some features such as the spell checker) you should 
try to run it under the runtime that matches the version of Office loaded on 
the user's computer.

-- 
Larry Linson
  Microsoft Office Access MVP
  Co-Author, Microsoft Access Small Business Solutions, Wiley 2010

"croy" <hate@spam.invalid.net> wrote in message 
news:kt9ki9d01gj143ru8f6o7ub9dalq983tkp@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 00:54:52 -0500, "Access Developer"
> <accdevel@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>More on running older verson Access databases under Access 2007, 2010, or
>>2013 runtimes.  Access MVP Paul Baldy told me that he'd tried a couple of
>>Access 2000 databases and didn't have problems, but he didn't suggest that
>>_every_ Access 2000 would.
>
> Well, after all the wonderfull info you've come up with
> here, I am persistently confused.
>
> I've seen a few websites that offer some sort of application
> built with Access 2000, and they say that if you don't have
> Access 2000 installed, you'll have to download the free
> Access 2000 runtime, and install that first.
>
> Does that mean that if I send my family photos database,
> built with Access 2000, to my sister, who doesn't have
> Access installed at all, that she could install the Access
> 2000 Runtime, and then be able to use (view) the family
> photos database?
>
> I rummaged thru my old software CDs, and found the ART2000,
> apparently downloaded from Microsoft a number of years ago.
>
> Thanks for all your kind help.
>
> -- 
> croy 

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#9174

"croy" <hate@spam.invalid.net> wrote

 > Thanks for all your kind help.

You are most welcome. I'm happy if I was able to help.

 -- 
 Larry Linson
  Microsoft Office Access MVP
  Co-Author, Microsoft Access Small Business Solutions, Wiley 2010
 

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#9178

Hi Croy
I have a very large database (about 20.000 fields and lots of VBA code).
It is originally developed in Access 2000 and now maintained with Access 
2003. In the beginning it was distributed with the expensive Access 2000 
runtime version, which also was tricky to install. However, it runs 
flawlesly with all later free runtime-version, and is presently distributed 
with MS Access 2010 runtime, and no users have complained.
Since each field represent a photo in .jpg format the database is now more 
than 8GB so I have to distribute on an USB-stick including the 2010 
runtime-software and it works without problems.
Peter 

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#9180

Thanks, it is good to have confirmation from someone who's actually 'been 
there, done that, got the t-shirt', rather than those of us just quoting 
what Microsoft says, and second-hand statements.

 -- 
 Larry Linson
  Microsoft Office Access MVP
  Co-Author, Microsoft Access Small Business Solutions, Wiley 2010

"PR" <randlov_(remove this)@post9.tele.dk> wrote in message 
news:532decc2$0$51269$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk...
> Hi Croy
> I have a very large database (about 20.000 fields and lots of VBA code).
> It is originally developed in Access 2000 and now maintained with Access 
> 2003. In the beginning it was distributed with the expensive Access 2000 
> runtime version, which also was tricky to install. However, it runs 
> flawlesly with all later free runtime-version, and is presently 
> distributed with MS Access 2010 runtime, and no users have complained.
> Since each field represent a photo in .jpg format the database is now more 
> than 8GB so I have to distribute on an USB-stick including the 2010 
> runtime-software and it works without problems.
> Peter 

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