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| Started by | Roger L Costello <costello@mitre.org> |
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| First post | 2026-08-24 17:44 +0000 |
| Last post | 2026-08-29 09:31 +0200 |
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Why should students still study compilers? Roger L Costello <costello@mitre.org> - 2026-08-24 17:44 +0000
Re: Why should students still study compilers? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de - 2026-08-26 16:37 +0000
Re: Why should students still study compilers? Davide Grandi <davide.grandi@email.it> - 2026-08-29 09:31 +0200
| From | Roger L Costello <costello@mitre.org> |
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| Date | 2026-08-24 17:44 +0000 |
| Subject | Why should students still study compilers? |
| Message-ID | <26-08-004@comp.compilers> |
For many years, I've regarded compiler construction as one of the most scientific, disciplined, and algorithmic areas of computer science. There is something wonderfully satisfying about a field in which so much can be derived systematically rather than done by the seat of the pants. The difficulty, at least in my experience, is that there simply aren't that many jobs writing compilers. Occasionally I get a small job writing a dedicated parser, but for the most part I have little opportunity to use compiler algorithms professionally. That makes it hard to justify spending my limited time keeping those skills fresh. And now I wonder whether LLMs will reduce the demand for some kinds of compiler and parser expertise even further. So I'm curious what people on this list think: **Why should a computer science student today take a compiler course?** Do students take compiler courses because the techniques they learn are likely to be useful in their careers, despite the relatively small number of jobs involving compiler development? Or is the real value of a compiler course that it teaches broader ways of thinking about languages, grammars, representations, transformations, optimization, and software systems? And has the arrival of LLMs changed your answer at all?
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| From | ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de |
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| Date | 2026-08-26 16:37 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <26-08-009@comp.compilers> |
| In reply to | #3741 |
Roger L Costello <costello@mitre.org> wrote or quoted: >So I'm curious what people on this list think: **Why should a computer science >student today take a compiler course?** A computer science student should be prepared for a computer science career at a university, so he clearly needs compiler construction there. But maybe he could still learn this as a postgrad. Some percentage, like 5 or 10 percent of graduates might in fact write or maintain compilers or interpreters at some organization. Others might use their knowledge to implement DSLs. With the new AI programming agents, the programmers do often not write code themselves, but they might need to supervise these tools. This requires knowledge in compiler construction when the project at hand is related to this field. Other students will not need this class indeed, but this can often only be seen in hindsight. When the student studies, it is often not yet known what parts of his education he will need in the future. So one needs to include those topics that most students will probably need so that later they can choose between as many career paths in the field as possible.
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| From | Davide Grandi <davide.grandi@email.it> |
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| Date | 2026-08-29 09:31 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <26-08-015@comp.compilers> |
| In reply to | #3741 |
Hi, instinctively: because if someone works on software the lifecycle of a "program", compilers are simply fundamental. experimentally: it worked for my studies and "career", guiding my choices on software tools from writing to testing. And, in many cases, for transforming. philologically: the fifth book of "The art of computer programming" will be about scanning and parsing. culturally: if one knows at least the basics of grammars and syntax (not to speak about the following phases) that one can face the usually-butcomplex recurring problems, maybe choosing wisely the right tool Bye, end of my 0,02 € Davide On 24/08/2026 19:44, Roger L Costello wrote: > For many years, I've regarded compiler construction as one of the most > scientific, disciplined, and algorithmic areas of computer science. There is > something wonderfully satisfying about a field in which so much can be derived > systematically rather than done by the seat of the pants. > > The difficulty, at least in my experience, is that there simply aren't that > many jobs writing compilers. Occasionally I get a small job writing a > dedicated parser, but for the most part I have little opportunity to use > compiler algorithms professionally. That makes it hard to justify spending my > limited time keeping those skills fresh. > > And now I wonder whether LLMs will reduce the demand for some kinds of > compiler and parser expertise even further. > > So I'm curious what people on this list think: **Why should a computer science > student today take a compiler course?** > > Do students take compiler courses because the techniques they learn are likely > to be useful in their careers, despite the relatively small number of jobs > involving compiler development? Or is the real value of a compiler course that > it teaches broader ways of thinking about languages, grammars, > representations, transformations, optimization, and software systems? > > And has the arrival of LLMs changed your answer at all? -- ing. Davide Grandi email : davide.grandi@email.it mobile : +39 339 7468 778 linkedin : http://linkedin.com/in/davidegrandi
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