Re: Programming language and IDE design

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From	Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net>
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On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 14:03:18 -0700, Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net>
wrote:

>On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 11:06:26 +0100, Martin Ward <martin@gkc.org.uk>
>wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
>>So my assertion is "Source code should be hard to write": *even if*
>>the writing difficulty does not result in any improvement in ease of
>>reading! For example: before any programmer checks in a new module or
>>program change, they should be forced to write out all the code
>>longhand with a quill pen.  This apparently pointless extra work
>>should give programmer's the opportunity to think about whether there
>>might be a shorter way to solve the problem (which might even be
>>easier to read and understand).
>
>     It is pointless.  I would be too concerned with the writing to
>look much at the code.
>
>     Someone who is not inclined to think more about the problem is
>not going to start doing so because you make him write it longhand.
>
>[snip]
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Gene Wirchenko
>[He's being ironic, dude.  Keypunching often had this salutary
>effect. -John]

      Is he?  I once read a similar opinion where the writer was
apparently quite serious.  In that case, it was a student learning
programming should be required to rewrite down the entire program when
he made errors.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko
[I hope we'll find out. -John]

Thread

Programming language and IDE design Martin Ward <martin@gkc.org.uk> - 2013-10-17 11:06 +0100
  Re: Programming language and IDE design "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2013-10-19 22:05 +0100
    Re: Programming language and IDE design Martin Ward <martin@gkc.org.uk> - 2013-11-07 19:40 +0000
      Re: Programming language and IDE design glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-11-08 05:21 +0000
      Re: Programming language and IDE design Hans-Peter Diettrich <DrDiettrich1@aol.com> - 2013-11-08 06:45 +0100
      Re: Programming language and IDE design George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2013-11-08 16:04 -0500
      Re: Programming language and IDE design "Jonathan Thornburg" <jthorn@astro.indiana.edu> - 2013-11-10 04:41 +0000
  Re: Programming language and IDE design Hans-Peter Diettrich <DrDiettrich1@aol.com> - 2013-10-20 03:22 +0200
  Re: Programming language and IDE design Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2013-10-20 14:03 -0700
    Re: Programming language and IDE design Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2013-10-21 14:44 -0700
  Re: Programming language and IDE design George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2013-10-22 16:17 -0400
    Re: Programming language and IDE design Hans-Peter Diettrich <DrDiettrich1@aol.com> - 2013-10-23 03:40 +0200
    Re: Programming language and IDE design wclodius@earthlink.net (William Clodius) - 2013-10-22 19:56 -0600
    Re: Programming language and IDE design "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2013-10-23 19:09 +0100
      Re: Comments, was Programming language and IDE design "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2014-08-01 13:15 -0400
    Re: Programming language and IDE design Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2013-10-24 10:55 -0400
      Re: Programming language and IDE design George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2013-10-24 19:57 -0400

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