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Re: Programming language and IDE design

From Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Newsgroups comp.compilers
Subject Re: Programming language and IDE design
Date 2013-10-24 10:55 -0400
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <13-10-031@comp.compilers> (permalink)
References <13-10-016@comp.compilers> <13-10-022@comp.compilers>

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>> Similarly foolish wisdom is seen in IDEs (Integrated Development
>> Environments) which allow the programmer to create hundreds of lines
>> of code with just a few clicks of the mouse.  Thus instantly creating
>> a significant maintenance effort.
> 99% (or more) of generated code will never be touched by a human.
> Probably 80% of it even will never be looked at.
> I have never read anything which suggests to me that Dijkstra was - or
> would have been - against source code generators.

IIUC, the OP was referring to the use of things like templates.
I.e. case where the generated source code is then edited by the user.
DSLs, macros, compiler compilers, and other code generators are
completely different, since the generated code is constantly
re-generated: it's not "source" code.


        Stefan

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Programming language and IDE design Martin Ward <martin@gkc.org.uk> - 2013-10-17 11:06 +0100
  Re: Programming language and IDE design "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2013-10-19 22:05 +0100
    Re: Programming language and IDE design Martin Ward <martin@gkc.org.uk> - 2013-11-07 19:40 +0000
      Re: Programming language and IDE design glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-11-08 05:21 +0000
      Re: Programming language and IDE design Hans-Peter Diettrich <DrDiettrich1@aol.com> - 2013-11-08 06:45 +0100
      Re: Programming language and IDE design George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2013-11-08 16:04 -0500
      Re: Programming language and IDE design "Jonathan Thornburg" <jthorn@astro.indiana.edu> - 2013-11-10 04:41 +0000
  Re: Programming language and IDE design Hans-Peter Diettrich <DrDiettrich1@aol.com> - 2013-10-20 03:22 +0200
  Re: Programming language and IDE design Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2013-10-20 14:03 -0700
    Re: Programming language and IDE design Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2013-10-21 14:44 -0700
  Re: Programming language and IDE design George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2013-10-22 16:17 -0400
    Re: Programming language and IDE design Hans-Peter Diettrich <DrDiettrich1@aol.com> - 2013-10-23 03:40 +0200
    Re: Programming language and IDE design wclodius@earthlink.net (William Clodius) - 2013-10-22 19:56 -0600
    Re: Programming language and IDE design "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2013-10-23 19:09 +0100
      Re: Comments, was Programming language and IDE design "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2014-08-01 13:15 -0400
    Re: Programming language and IDE design Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2013-10-24 10:55 -0400
      Re: Programming language and IDE design George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2013-10-24 19:57 -0400

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