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Re: Somewhat off-topic: comp-arch.net cloned, possibly hacked

Message-ID <4E5CECCB.2090404@SPAM.comp-arch.net> (permalink)
Date 2011-08-30 06:59 -0700
From "Andy \"Krazy\" Glew" <andy@SPAM.comp-arch.net>
Organization comp-arch.net
Newsgroups comp.arch
Subject Re: Somewhat off-topic: comp-arch.net cloned, possibly hacked
References (1 earlier) <G%D6q.3306$qy6.648@newsfe07.iad> <4E5BB757.3020009@SPAM.comp-arch.net> <oiP6q.1932$sX1.1300@newsfe06.iad> <4E5BE1EA.7030006@SPAM.comp-arch.net> <jivui8-8hs2.ln1@ntp6.tmsw.no>

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On 8/30/2011 4:53 AM, Terje Mathisen wrote:
> Andy "Krazy" Glew wrote:
>>
>> I find it interesting that DNS does not have a mechanism to ensure that
>> domains and IP addresses are consistent. E.g. a digital signature/hash
>> including both, made with a private key corresponding to a public key
>> posted in whois.
>
> Sounds like a good idea, I wonder what I'd get from googling "secure dns"?
> ....
>
> http://www.dnssec.net/ is the second hit.
>
> :-)
>
> Terje

OK, I'm stupid.

So my next questions are:

1) why wasn't security designed in from the start?

2) why isn't this everywhere?

Oh, yeah, the answer is probably "The original designers of the Internet 
didn't pay attention to security".

Which is part of the reason why I stopped paying attention to network 
protocols years ago - in frustration because of thtche lousy security.

(The first US company worked at, The Little Software House on the 
Prairie, (a) was where I learned a lot about hardware and OS, (b) had 
been the Illiac networking group, (c) was a pioneer in secure OSes and 
secure networking.   They made part of the living adding security as an 
afterthought to networking.   It always annoyed me that security had not 
been designed in from scratch.)

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Somewhat off-topic: comp-arch.net cloned, possibly hacked "Andy \"Krazy\" Glew" <andy@SPAM.comp-arch.net> - 2011-08-28 19:49 -0700
  Re: Somewhat off-topic: comp-arch.net cloned, possibly hacked EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2011-08-28 23:32 -0400
  Re: Somewhat off-topic: comp-arch.net cloned, possibly hacked EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2011-08-28 23:49 -0400
    Re: Somewhat off-topic: comp-arch.net cloned, possibly hacked "Andy \"Krazy\" Glew" <andy@SPAM.comp-arch.net> - 2011-08-29 08:59 -0700
      Re: Somewhat off-topic: comp-arch.net cloned, possibly hacked EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2011-08-29 12:40 -0400
        Re: Somewhat off-topic: comp-arch.net cloned, possibly hacked "Andy \"Krazy\" Glew" <andy@SPAM.comp-arch.net> - 2011-08-29 12:00 -0700
        Re: Somewhat off-topic: comp-arch.net cloned, possibly hacked "Andy \"Krazy\" Glew" <andy@SPAM.comp-arch.net> - 2011-08-29 12:00 -0700
          Re: Somewhat off-topic: comp-arch.net cloned, possibly hacked George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2011-08-29 21:31 -0400
          Re: Somewhat off-topic: comp-arch.net cloned, possibly hacked Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2011-08-29 22:12 -0400
            Re: Somewhat off-topic: comp-arch.net cloned, possibly hacked Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2011-08-30 09:38 -0400
            Re: Somewhat off-topic: comp-arch.net cloned, possibly hacked Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2011-08-30 10:51 -0400
          Re: Somewhat off-topic: comp-arch.net cloned, possibly hacked Terje Mathisen <"terje.mathisen at tmsw.no"> - 2011-08-30 13:53 +0200
            Re: Somewhat off-topic: comp-arch.net cloned, possibly hacked "Andy \"Krazy\" Glew" <andy@SPAM.comp-arch.net> - 2011-08-30 06:59 -0700
              Re: Somewhat off-topic: comp-arch.net cloned, possibly hacked Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2011-08-30 10:23 -0400
                Re: Somewhat off-topic: comp-arch.net cloned, possibly hacked kenney@cix.compulink.co.uk - 2011-08-31 08:04 -0500
                Re: Somewhat off-topic: comp-arch.net cloned, possibly hacked Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2011-08-31 10:26 -0400
                Re: Somewhat off-topic: comp-arch.net cloned, possibly hacked nmm1@cam.ac.uk - 2011-08-31 18:58 +0100
              Re: Somewhat off-topic: comp-arch.net cloned, possibly hacked nmm1@cam.ac.uk - 2011-08-30 14:58 +0100
              Re: Somewhat off-topic: comp-arch.net cloned, possibly hacked Terje Mathisen <"terje.mathisen at tmsw.no"> - 2011-08-31 10:25 +0200
                Re: Somewhat off-topic: comp-arch.net cloned, possibly hacked Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2011-08-31 10:01 -0400
                Re: Somewhat off-topic: comp-arch.net cloned, possibly hacked Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2011-08-31 12:15 -0400
    Re: Somewhat off-topic: comp-arch.net cloned, possibly hacked "Andy \"Krazy\" Glew" <andy@SPAM.comp-arch.net> - 2011-08-29 08:59 -0700

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