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  ARM about to be sold Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-07-18 12:15 +0000
    Re: ARM about to be sold rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-18 11:01 -0400
      Re: ARM about to be sold Rob Gaddi <rgaddi@highlandtechnology.invalid> - 2016-07-18 16:44 +0000
        Re: ARM about to be sold "tim..." <tims_new_home@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-18 17:53 +0100
          Re: ARM about to be sold "Bill Davy" <Bill@SynectixLtd.com> - 2016-07-19 12:06 +0100
      Re: ARM about to be sold Mike Perkins <spam@spam.com> - 2016-07-18 19:25 +0100
      Re: ARM about to be sold Nils M Holm <nmh@ananda.local> - 2016-07-18 19:10 +0000
        Re: ARM about to be sold rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-18 17:58 -0400
      Re: ARM about to be sold Tim Wescott <seemywebsite@myfooter.really> - 2016-07-18 22:50 -0500
        Re: ARM about to be sold rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 03:13 -0400
          Re: ARM about to be sold Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2016-07-19 10:23 +0300
            Re: ARM about to be sold rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 10:26 -0400
              Re: ARM about to be sold Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2016-07-19 17:35 +0300
            Re: ARM about to be sold Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2016-07-26 10:57 -0500
              Re: ARM about to be sold rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 13:23 -0400
                Re: ARM about to be sold Evgeny Filatov <filatov.ev@mipt.ru> - 2016-07-26 20:39 +0300
                  Re: ARM about to be sold rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 13:49 -0400
                  Re: ARM about to be sold Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2016-07-26 20:51 +0300
                    Re: ARM about to be sold Evgeny Filatov <filatov.ev@mipt.ru> - 2016-07-26 21:08 +0300
                      Re: ARM about to be sold Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2016-07-26 22:57 +0300
                Re: ARM about to be sold Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2016-07-26 20:56 +0300
                Re: ARM about to be sold Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2016-07-26 13:45 -0500
                  Re: ARM about to be sold Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2016-07-27 03:45 +0300
                    Re: ARM about to be sold Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2016-07-27 11:26 -0500
                      Re: ARM about to be sold lasselangwadtchristensen@gmail.com - 2016-07-27 15:00 -0700
                        Re: ARM about to be sold Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2016-07-28 01:46 -0500
                    Re: ARM about to be sold Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-07-28 17:39 +0000
                  Re: ARM about to be sold rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 18:13 -0400
      Re: ARM about to be sold Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2016-07-26 10:49 -0500
    Re: ARM about to be sold Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-18 08:20 -0700

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#24644 — ARM about to be sold

ARM is about to be sold to a Japanese company:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36822806

As a Brit, it saddens me to see a British success story sold into foreign
hands, but my real concern is about what the future might bring several
years down the road.

Questions currently going through my mind include whether ARM will
still be able to perform R&D at their current rate and whether ARM's
engineers will be outsourced in the future and replaced with lower
quality staff.

I know the new owners are promising a major new resource investment but
promises and eventual reality are not always the same thing if the
investment ends up being badly mismanaged. I've got no direct reason
to suspect it will be mismanaged, but I have some general unease about
possible issues around the cultural compatibility of ARM with a foreign
investor.

Simon.

-- 
Simon Clubley, clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP
Microsoft: Bringing you 1980s technology to a 21st century world

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#24645

On 7/18/2016 8:15 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
> ARM is about to be sold to a Japanese company:
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36822806
>
> As a Brit, it saddens me to see a British success story sold into foreign
> hands, but my real concern is about what the future might bring several
> years down the road.

I read they expect to double the UK workforce, so not all bad.


> Questions currently going through my mind include whether ARM will
> still be able to perform R&D at their current rate and whether ARM's
> engineers will be outsourced in the future and replaced with lower
> quality staff.

I doubt it.  Would you pay billions for a working company and then mess 
it up?  Anyone who can raise billions is not stupid.


> I know the new owners are promising a major new resource investment but
> promises and eventual reality are not always the same thing if the
> investment ends up being badly mismanaged. I've got no direct reason
> to suspect it will be mismanaged, but I have some general unease about
> possible issues around the cultural compatibility of ARM with a foreign
> investor.

What makes you think they will get into the management at all rather 
than just taking the profits and saying "thank you"?

I think ARM is too big a force for an owner to mess up.  The customers 
are huge and have a lot of throw weight.

-- 

Rick C

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#24647

rickman wrote:

> On 7/18/2016 8:15 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>
>> Questions currently going through my mind include whether ARM will
>> still be able to perform R&D at their current rate and whether ARM's
>> engineers will be outsourced in the future and replaced with lower
>> quality staff.
>
> I doubt it.  Would you pay billions for a working company and then mess 
> it up?  Anyone who can raise billions is not stupid.
>

Oh, for a world in which that statement were true.

-- 
Rob Gaddi, Highland Technology -- www.highlandtechnology.com

Email address domain is currently out of order.  See above to fix.

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#24648

"Rob Gaddi" <rgaddi@highlandtechnology.invalid> wrote in message 
news:nmj10n$mst$1@dont-email.me...
> rickman wrote:
>
>> On 7/18/2016 8:15 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>
>>> Questions currently going through my mind include whether ARM will
>>> still be able to perform R&D at their current rate and whether ARM's
>>> engineers will be outsourced in the future and replaced with lower
>>> quality staff.
>>
>> I doubt it.  Would you pay billions for a working company and then mess
>> it up?  Anyone who can raise billions is not stupid.
>>
>
> Oh, for a world in which that statement were true.

Time Warner anyone :-)

tim

 

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#24662

"tim..." <tims_new_home@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:nmj1ju$p1v$1@dont-email.me...
>
> "Rob Gaddi" <rgaddi@highlandtechnology.invalid> wrote in message 
> news:nmj10n$mst$1@dont-email.me...
>> rickman wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/18/2016 8:15 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>>
>>>> Questions currently going through my mind include whether ARM will
>>>> still be able to perform R&D at their current rate and whether ARM's
>>>> engineers will be outsourced in the future and replaced with lower
>>>> quality staff.
>>>
>>> I doubt it.  Would you pay billions for a working company and then mess
>>> it up?  Anyone who can raise billions is not stupid.
>>>
>>
>> Oh, for a world in which that statement were true.
>
> Time Warner anyone :-)
>
> tim
>
>
>

Current CEO was in Pilkington Glass when it was sold.  Great engineering 
making a profitable product.  Sold to a Japanese company.  CEO did not fit 
with the Japanese model.  Now he is doing it again.

Knighthood anyone? 

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#24650

On 18/07/2016 16:01, rickman wrote:
> On 7/18/2016 8:15 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>> ARM is about to be sold to a Japanese company:
>>
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36822806
>>
>> As a Brit, it saddens me to see a British success story sold into foreign
>> hands, but my real concern is about what the future might bring several
>> years down the road.
>
> I read they expect to double the UK workforce, so not all bad.
>
>
>> Questions currently going through my mind include whether ARM will
>> still be able to perform R&D at their current rate and whether ARM's
>> engineers will be outsourced in the future and replaced with lower
>> quality staff.
>
> I doubt it.  Would you pay billions for a working company and then mess
> it up?  Anyone who can raise billions is not stupid.

Ask Microsoft. How much did they pay for Nokia and Skype? Lets see what 
happens with LinkedIn!

-- 
Mike Perkins
Video Solutions Ltd
www.videosolutions.ltd.uk

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#24651

rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 7/18/2016 8:15 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>> Questions currently going through my mind include whether ARM will
>> still be able to perform R&D at their current rate and whether ARM's
>> engineers will be outsourced in the future and replaced with lower
>> quality staff.
> 
> I doubt it.  Would you pay billions for a working company and then mess 
> it up?  Anyone who can raise billions is not stupid.

Intelligence will not necessarily save them when market forces are
at work. In a contest between logic and money always bet on the money.

> I think ARM is too big a force for an owner to mess up.  The customers 
> are huge and have a lot of throw weight.

This is what I would have said about DEC some decades ago!

-- 
Nils M Holm  < n m h @ t 3 x . o r g >  www.t3x.org

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#24653

On 7/18/2016 3:10 PM, Nils M Holm wrote:
> rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 7/18/2016 8:15 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>> Questions currently going through my mind include whether ARM will
>>> still be able to perform R&D at their current rate and whether ARM's
>>> engineers will be outsourced in the future and replaced with lower
>>> quality staff.
>>
>> I doubt it.  Would you pay billions for a working company and then mess
>> it up?  Anyone who can raise billions is not stupid.
>
> Intelligence will not necessarily save them when market forces are
> at work. In a contest between logic and money always bet on the money.

There is no such contest.


>> I think ARM is too big a force for an owner to mess up.  The customers
>> are huge and have a lot of throw weight.
>
> This is what I would have said about DEC some decades ago!

DEC was selling future dinosaurs.  They simply didn't adapt to the 
times.  ARM *is* the future which Intel needs to adapt to.

-- 

Rick C

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#24655

On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 11:01:40 -0400, rickman wrote:

> On 7/18/2016 8:15 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>> ARM is about to be sold to a Japanese company:
>>
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36822806
>>
>> As a Brit, it saddens me to see a British success story sold into
>> foreign hands, but my real concern is about what the future might bring
>> several years down the road.
> 
> I read they expect to double the UK workforce, so not all bad.
> 
> 
>> Questions currently going through my mind include whether ARM will
>> still be able to perform R&D at their current rate and whether ARM's
>> engineers will be outsourced in the future and replaced with lower
>> quality staff.
> 
> I doubt it.  Would you pay billions for a working company and then mess
> it up?  Anyone who can raise billions is not stupid.

History disagrees with you.  Sometimes these things work out splendidly, 
sometimes they work horribly.  Usually the people who make the initial 
deal make out like bandits ('cuz they're not stupid), but often the 
companies involved go down the tubes, leaving stockholders holding an 
empty bag.

-- 

Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com

I'm looking for work -- see my website!

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#24658

On 7/18/2016 11:50 PM, Tim Wescott wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 11:01:40 -0400, rickman wrote:
>
>> On 7/18/2016 8:15 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>> ARM is about to be sold to a Japanese company:
>>>
>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36822806
>>>
>>> As a Brit, it saddens me to see a British success story sold into
>>> foreign hands, but my real concern is about what the future might bring
>>> several years down the road.
>>
>> I read they expect to double the UK workforce, so not all bad.
>>
>>
>>> Questions currently going through my mind include whether ARM will
>>> still be able to perform R&D at their current rate and whether ARM's
>>> engineers will be outsourced in the future and replaced with lower
>>> quality staff.
>>
>> I doubt it.  Would you pay billions for a working company and then mess
>> it up?  Anyone who can raise billions is not stupid.
>
> History disagrees with you.  Sometimes these things work out splendidly,
> sometimes they work horribly.  Usually the people who make the initial
> deal make out like bandits ('cuz they're not stupid), but often the
> companies involved go down the tubes, leaving stockholders holding an
> empty bag.

Your logic is very poor.  History says things can go bad, but that is no 
contradiction to what I said.

-- 

Rick C

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#24659

On 19.7.2016 г. 10:13, rickman wrote:
> On 7/18/2016 11:50 PM, Tim Wescott wrote:
>> On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 11:01:40 -0400, rickman wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/18/2016 8:15 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>>> ARM is about to be sold to a Japanese company:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36822806
>>>>
>>>> As a Brit, it saddens me to see a British success story sold into
>>>> foreign hands, but my real concern is about what the future might bring
>>>> several years down the road.
>>>
>>> I read they expect to double the UK workforce, so not all bad.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Questions currently going through my mind include whether ARM will
>>>> still be able to perform R&D at their current rate and whether ARM's
>>>> engineers will be outsourced in the future and replaced with lower
>>>> quality staff.
>>>
>>> I doubt it.  Would you pay billions for a working company and then mess
>>> it up?  Anyone who can raise billions is not stupid.
>>
>> History disagrees with you.  Sometimes these things work out splendidly,
>> sometimes they work horribly.  Usually the people who make the initial
>> deal make out like bandits ('cuz they're not stupid), but often the
>> companies involved go down the tubes, leaving stockholders holding an
>> empty bag.
>
> Your logic is very poor.  History says things can go bad, but that is no
> contradiction to what I said.
>

Your logic is not very good either though. Anybody who can make billions
is not stupid - true.
Not being stupid is by far not what it takes to do what ARM did so far
though. It takes some extra talent.

You don't know whether the guy with the billions has it.

I expect things will slowly fall into their places, ARM 32 will stay
in small MCU-s (it is just not fit for use in large ones as they use
it), ARM 64 may or may not survive, time will tell (I don't know enough
about it to make predictions).

Dimiter

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#24664

On 7/19/2016 3:23 AM, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:
> On 19.7.2016 г. 10:13, rickman wrote:
>> On 7/18/2016 11:50 PM, Tim Wescott wrote:
>>> On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 11:01:40 -0400, rickman wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 7/18/2016 8:15 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>>>> ARM is about to be sold to a Japanese company:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36822806
>>>>>
>>>>> As a Brit, it saddens me to see a British success story sold into
>>>>> foreign hands, but my real concern is about what the future might
>>>>> bring
>>>>> several years down the road.
>>>>
>>>> I read they expect to double the UK workforce, so not all bad.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Questions currently going through my mind include whether ARM will
>>>>> still be able to perform R&D at their current rate and whether ARM's
>>>>> engineers will be outsourced in the future and replaced with lower
>>>>> quality staff.
>>>>
>>>> I doubt it.  Would you pay billions for a working company and then mess
>>>> it up?  Anyone who can raise billions is not stupid.
>>>
>>> History disagrees with you.  Sometimes these things work out splendidly,
>>> sometimes they work horribly.  Usually the people who make the initial
>>> deal make out like bandits ('cuz they're not stupid), but often the
>>> companies involved go down the tubes, leaving stockholders holding an
>>> empty bag.
>>
>> Your logic is very poor.  History says things can go bad, but that is no
>> contradiction to what I said.
>>
>
> Your logic is not very good either though. Anybody who can make billions
> is not stupid - true.
> Not being stupid is by far not what it takes to do what ARM did so far
> though. It takes some extra talent.
>
> You don't know whether the guy with the billions has it.
>
> I expect things will slowly fall into their places, ARM 32 will stay
> in small MCU-s (it is just not fit for use in large ones as they use
> it), ARM 64 may or may not survive, time will tell (I don't know enough
> about it to make predictions).

64 bit ARM designs are already rocking the world both in mobile apps and 
desktop.

-- 

Rick C

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#24666

On 19.7.2016 г. 17:26, rickman wrote:
> On 7/19/2016 3:23 AM, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:
>> On 19.7.2016 г. 10:13, rickman wrote:
>>> On 7/18/2016 11:50 PM, Tim Wescott wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 11:01:40 -0400, rickman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 7/18/2016 8:15 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>>>>> ARM is about to be sold to a Japanese company:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36822806
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As a Brit, it saddens me to see a British success story sold into
>>>>>> foreign hands, but my real concern is about what the future might
>>>>>> bring
>>>>>> several years down the road.
>>>>>
>>>>> I read they expect to double the UK workforce, so not all bad.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Questions currently going through my mind include whether ARM will
>>>>>> still be able to perform R&D at their current rate and whether ARM's
>>>>>> engineers will be outsourced in the future and replaced with lower
>>>>>> quality staff.
>>>>>
>>>>> I doubt it.  Would you pay billions for a working company and then
>>>>> mess
>>>>> it up?  Anyone who can raise billions is not stupid.
>>>>
>>>> History disagrees with you.  Sometimes these things work out
>>>> splendidly,
>>>> sometimes they work horribly.  Usually the people who make the initial
>>>> deal make out like bandits ('cuz they're not stupid), but often the
>>>> companies involved go down the tubes, leaving stockholders holding an
>>>> empty bag.
>>>
>>> Your logic is very poor.  History says things can go bad, but that is no
>>> contradiction to what I said.
>>>
>>
>> Your logic is not very good either though. Anybody who can make billions
>> is not stupid - true.
>> Not being stupid is by far not what it takes to do what ARM did so far
>> though. It takes some extra talent.
>>
>> You don't know whether the guy with the billions has it.
>>
>> I expect things will slowly fall into their places, ARM 32 will stay
>> in small MCU-s (it is just not fit for use in large ones as they use
>> it), ARM 64 may or may not survive, time will tell (I don't know enough
>> about it to make predictions).
>
> 64 bit ARM designs are already rocking the world both in mobile apps and
> desktop.
>

Obviously I know that much, it just is not enough to base a prediction
on it.
I had a brief glance at the architecture 2-3 years ago and it looked OK,
but I did not try to get to the details. At least this one has enough
registers to be able to maintain a full pipeline (as far as I saw).

Dimiter

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#24712

Dimiter_Popoff wrote:
> On 19.7.2016 г. 10:13, rickman wrote:
>> On 7/18/2016 11:50 PM, Tim Wescott wrote:
>>> On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 11:01:40 -0400, rickman wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 7/18/2016 8:15 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>>>> ARM is about to be sold to a Japanese company:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36822806
>>>>>
>>>>> As a Brit, it saddens me to see a British success story sold into
>>>>> foreign hands, but my real concern is about what the future might
>>>>> bring
>>>>> several years down the road.
>>>>
>>>> I read they expect to double the UK workforce, so not all bad.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Questions currently going through my mind include whether ARM will
>>>>> still be able to perform R&D at their current rate and whether ARM's
>>>>> engineers will be outsourced in the future and replaced with lower
>>>>> quality staff.
>>>>
>>>> I doubt it.  Would you pay billions for a working company and then mess
>>>> it up?  Anyone who can raise billions is not stupid.
>>>
>>> History disagrees with you.  Sometimes these things work out splendidly,
>>> sometimes they work horribly.  Usually the people who make the initial
>>> deal make out like bandits ('cuz they're not stupid), but often the
>>> companies involved go down the tubes, leaving stockholders holding an
>>> empty bag.
>>
>> Your logic is very poor.  History says things can go bad, but that is no
>> contradiction to what I said.
>>
>
> Your logic is not very good either though. Anybody who can make billions
> is not stupid - true.

Just no. Making billions doesn't imply any sort of intelligence nor 
talent at all.

> Not being stupid is by far not what it takes to do what ARM did so far
> though. It takes some extra talent.
>

But this too. Smart people do stupid things.

> You don't know whether the guy with the billions has it.
>
> I expect things will slowly fall into their places, ARM 32 will stay
> in small MCU-s (it is just not fit for use in large ones as they use
> it),

I'm behind as well, but ARM32 can support quite a bit of RAM and FLASH.

I dunno - is a Coretex A8 on a Beaglebone a large or small? Seems large 
to me. Maybe medium?

> ARM 64 may or may not survive, time will tell (I don't know enough
> about it to make predictions).
>

It may not.

> Dimiter
>

-- 
Les Cargill

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#24716

On 7/26/2016 11:57 AM, Les Cargill wrote:
> Dimiter_Popoff wrote:
>> On 19.7.2016 г. 10:13, rickman wrote:
>>> On 7/18/2016 11:50 PM, Tim Wescott wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 11:01:40 -0400, rickman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 7/18/2016 8:15 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>>>>> ARM is about to be sold to a Japanese company:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36822806
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As a Brit, it saddens me to see a British success story sold into
>>>>>> foreign hands, but my real concern is about what the future might
>>>>>> bring
>>>>>> several years down the road.
>>>>>
>>>>> I read they expect to double the UK workforce, so not all bad.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Questions currently going through my mind include whether ARM will
>>>>>> still be able to perform R&D at their current rate and whether ARM's
>>>>>> engineers will be outsourced in the future and replaced with lower
>>>>>> quality staff.
>>>>>
>>>>> I doubt it.  Would you pay billions for a working company and then
>>>>> mess
>>>>> it up?  Anyone who can raise billions is not stupid.
>>>>
>>>> History disagrees with you.  Sometimes these things work out
>>>> splendidly,
>>>> sometimes they work horribly.  Usually the people who make the initial
>>>> deal make out like bandits ('cuz they're not stupid), but often the
>>>> companies involved go down the tubes, leaving stockholders holding an
>>>> empty bag.
>>>
>>> Your logic is very poor.  History says things can go bad, but that is no
>>> contradiction to what I said.
>>>
>>
>> Your logic is not very good either though. Anybody who can make billions
>> is not stupid - true.
>
> Just no. Making billions doesn't imply any sort of intelligence nor
> talent at all.

Are you talking about winning the lottery?  Otherwise making billions of 
dollars pretty much does require *some* sort of talent or everyone would 
be doing it, no?


>> Not being stupid is by far not what it takes to do what ARM did so far
>> though. It takes some extra talent.
>>
>
> But this too. Smart people do stupid things.

But less often than stupid people.


>> You don't know whether the guy with the billions has it.
>>
>> I expect things will slowly fall into their places, ARM 32 will stay
>> in small MCU-s (it is just not fit for use in large ones as they use
>> it),
>
> I'm behind as well, but ARM32 can support quite a bit of RAM and FLASH.
>
> I dunno - is a Coretex A8 on a Beaglebone a large or small? Seems large
> to me. Maybe medium?
>
>> ARM 64 may or may not survive, time will tell (I don't know enough
>> about it to make predictions).
>>
>
> It may not.

In the long run nothing survives including us.

-- 

Rick C

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#24717

On 26.07.2016 20:23, rickman wrote:

(snip)

>>> ARM 64 may or may not survive, time will tell (I don't know enough
>>> about it to make predictions).
>>>
>>
>> It may not.
>
> In the long run nothing survives including us.
>

Looks like you are not into transhumanism?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transhumanism

Gene

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#24718

On 7/26/2016 1:39 PM, Evgeny Filatov wrote:
> On 26.07.2016 20:23, rickman wrote:
>
> (snip)
>
>>>> ARM 64 may or may not survive, time will tell (I don't know enough
>>>> about it to make predictions).
>>>>
>>>
>>> It may not.
>>
>> In the long run nothing survives including us.
>>
>
> Looks like you are not into transhumanism?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transhumanism

Allow me to modify my previous statement...

In the long run nothing survives including us^H^H transhumanism.

-- 

Rick C

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#24719

On 26.7.2016 г. 20:39, Evgeny Filatov wrote:
> On 26.07.2016 20:23, rickman wrote:
>
> (snip)
>
>>>> ARM 64 may or may not survive, time will tell (I don't know enough
>>>> about it to make predictions).
>>>>
>>>
>>> It may not.
>>
>> In the long run nothing survives including us.
>>
>
> Looks like you are not into transhumanism?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transhumanism
>
> Gene
>

Hi there Gene,

even so he is right I guess, nothing lasts forever :-).

But of course some things outlive others, some people
outlive others....

I think I know how to emulate myself on a sufficiently large
machine running DPS - I only wish I knew where to start
with the _read_ part of the copying... :D .

Dimiter

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#24721

On 26.07.2016 20:51, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:
> On 26.7.2016 г. 20:39, Evgeny Filatov wrote:
>> On 26.07.2016 20:23, rickman wrote:
>>
>> (snip)
>>
>>>>> ARM 64 may or may not survive, time will tell (I don't know enough
>>>>> about it to make predictions).
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It may not.
>>>
>>> In the long run nothing survives including us.
>>>
>>
>> Looks like you are not into transhumanism?
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transhumanism
>>
>> Gene
>>
>
> Hi there Gene,
>
> even so he is right I guess, nothing lasts forever :-).
>
> But of course some things outlive others, some people
> outlive others....
>
> I think I know how to emulate myself on a sufficiently large
> machine running DPS - I only wish I knew where to start
> with the _read_ part of the copying... :D .
>
> Dimiter
>
> ------------------------------------------------------
> Dimiter Popoff, TGI             http://www.tgi-sci.com
> ------------------------------------------------------
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/didi_tgi/
>
>
>
>

Hi, Dimiter.

I've just looked up your website. Well, that's a way to name a company! :-)

Gene

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#24723

On 26.7.2016 г. 21:08, Evgeny Filatov wrote:
> On 26.07.2016 20:51, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:
>> On 26.7.2016 г. 20:39, Evgeny Filatov wrote:
>>> On 26.07.2016 20:23, rickman wrote:
>>>
>>> (snip)
>>>
>>>>>> ARM 64 may or may not survive, time will tell (I don't know enough
>>>>>> about it to make predictions).
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It may not.
>>>>
>>>> In the long run nothing survives including us.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Looks like you are not into transhumanism?
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transhumanism
>>>
>>> Gene
>>>
>>
>> Hi there Gene,
>>
>> even so he is right I guess, nothing lasts forever :-).
>>
>> But of course some things outlive others, some people
>> outlive others....
>>
>> I think I know how to emulate myself on a sufficiently large
>> machine running DPS - I only wish I knew where to start
>> with the _read_ part of the copying... :D .
>>
>> Dimiter
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------
>> Dimiter Popoff, TGI             http://www.tgi-sci.com
>> ------------------------------------------------------
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/didi_tgi/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> Hi, Dimiter.
>
> I've just looked up your website. Well, that's a way to name a company! :-)
>
> Gene
>
  Thanks Gene,
I made up the name way back in my 20-s (79-a was the first reference to
it IIRC), in the middle of the communistic times when talking about your
own company would be seen as a diagnosis - so I suppose I put some
humour/self irony into it then.
Ever since I have been working as hard as I can to live up to the name
though - so much about humour...

Dimiter

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