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Atmel Bought by Microchip

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  Atmel Bought by Microchip rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-06-28 18:55 -0400
    Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2016-06-29 11:24 -0500
      Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-06-29 16:31 +0000
        Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2016-06-29 11:45 -0500
      Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2016-06-29 12:46 -0400
        Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2016-06-29 12:59 -0400
          Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-06-29 17:13 +0000
          Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2016-06-29 10:32 -0700
            Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2016-06-29 16:14 -0400
        Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2016-06-29 12:59 -0500
          Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-06-29 14:06 -0400
            Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2016-06-29 13:28 -0500
            Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip antispam@math.uni.wroc.pl - 2016-07-01 20:03 +0000
              Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 16:11 -0400
                Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip antispam@math.uni.wroc.pl - 2016-07-01 23:44 +0000
                Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip krw@attt.bizz - 2016-07-01 20:17 -0400
                  Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 22:42 -0400
                    Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip krw@attt.bizz - 2016-07-03 00:46 -0400
                      Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 03:08 -0400
                        Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip krw@attt.bizz - 2016-07-03 08:46 -0400
              Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-01 13:33 -0700
                Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 17:32 -0400
                  Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-01 14:49 -0700
                    Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 17:52 -0400
                      Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 17:54 -0400
                Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip antispam@math.uni.wroc.pl - 2016-07-01 22:14 +0000
                  Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 18:18 -0400
                Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> - 2016-07-01 18:48 -0400
      Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-06-29 13:04 -0400
        Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2016-06-29 13:07 -0500
          Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-06-29 14:17 -0400
            Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2016-06-29 13:34 -0500
            Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2016-06-29 14:45 -0400
      Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip Tim Wescott <seemywebsite@myfooter.really> - 2016-06-29 12:24 -0500
        Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2016-06-29 13:09 -0500
    Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2016-06-29 12:19 -0700
      Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-06-29 19:48 -0400
        Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-06-29 16:49 -0700
      Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip jeffj@panix.com (Jeff Jonas) - 2016-07-18 17:02 -0400
        Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip krw@attt.bizz - 2016-07-18 20:29 -0400
        Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2016-07-19 10:48 +0000
          Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip krw@attt.bizz - 2016-07-19 20:23 -0400
        Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-07-19 14:27 +0000
    Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip pozz <pozzugno@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 17:46 +0200
      Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 12:14 -0400
        Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip pozz <pozzugno@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 09:10 +0200
          Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip krw@attt.bizz - 2016-07-25 20:11 -0400
      Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip krw@attt.bizz - 2016-07-22 23:01 -0400
        Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip pozz <pozzugno@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 09:15 +0200
          Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-07-25 14:06 +0000
            Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip Paul <paul@pcserviceselectronics.co.uk> - 2016-07-25 23:54 +0100
              Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-07-25 23:18 +0000
                Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 19:44 -0400
              Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2016-12-16 17:58 +0100
                Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2016-12-16 17:28 -0500
          Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip krw@attt.bizz - 2016-07-25 20:22 -0400
            Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 22:43 -0400
              Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip krw@attt.bizz - 2016-07-26 20:12 -0400
                Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-26 21:30 -0700
                  Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip krw@attt.bizz - 2016-07-27 19:46 -0400
                Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> - 2016-07-27 07:25 -0400
                  Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip krw@attt.bizz - 2016-07-27 19:53 -0400
                    Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-27 20:04 -0700
                      Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2016-07-28 01:51 -0500
                        Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-28 02:50 -0400
                          Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip raimond.dragomir@gmail.com - 2016-07-28 03:27 -0700
                            Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-28 12:58 -0400
                        Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-28 00:03 -0700
                          Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip Uwe Bonnes <bon@hertz.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de> - 2016-07-28 10:19 +0000
                            Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-29 14:52 -0700
                              Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-30 02:19 -0400
                                Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip krw@attt.bizz - 2016-07-30 20:03 -0400
                                  Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-30 17:11 -0700
                                    Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip krw@attt.bizz - 2016-07-30 20:54 -0400
                                    Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-08-01 09:45 +0200
                                      Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-01 11:52 -0700
                                        Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip raimond.dragomir@gmail.com - 2016-08-01 22:17 -0700
                                          Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-01 22:28 -0700
                                            Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip raimond.dragomir@gmail.com - 2016-08-02 23:14 -0700
                                Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-30 18:05 -0700
                              Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip kristoff <kristoff@skypro.be> - 2016-07-30 18:15 +0200
                                Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-30 19:19 -0700
                          Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-07-28 12:29 +0200
                          Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip pozz <pozzugno@gmail.com> - 2016-07-28 15:04 +0200
                          Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip Mel Wilson <mwilson@the-wire.com> - 2016-07-28 14:07 +0000
                      Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip krw@attt.bizz - 2016-07-28 20:10 -0400
                Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 10:08 -0400
                  Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip krw@attt.bizz - 2016-07-27 19:49 -0400
                    Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-28 00:30 -0400
                      Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip krw@attt.bizz - 2016-07-28 20:13 -0400
                        Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-30 02:23 -0400
                          Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip krw@attt.bizz - 2016-07-30 20:06 -0400
                            Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2016-07-31 13:55 +0300
                              Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip krw@attt.bizz - 2016-07-31 09:12 -0400
                                Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2016-07-31 17:22 +0300
                                  Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip krw@attt.bizz - 2016-07-31 10:26 -0400
                                    Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2016-07-31 17:38 +0300
                                      Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip krw@attt.bizz - 2016-07-31 10:49 -0400
                                        Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2016-07-31 17:56 +0300
                                          Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip krw@attt.bizz - 2016-07-31 19:21 -0400
                                            Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2016-08-01 02:47 +0300
                                              Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-31 17:11 -0700
                                                Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2016-07-31 18:54 -0700
                                              Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip krw@attt.bizz - 2016-07-31 20:14 -0400
                                                Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2016-08-01 03:42 +0300
                                                  Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip krw@attt.bizz - 2016-07-31 21:05 -0400
                                                    Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2016-08-01 04:38 +0300
                                                      Re: Atmel Bought by Microchip krw <krw@nowhere.com> - 2016-07-31 22:39 -0400

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#24774

FromDimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
Date2016-08-01 02:47 +0300
Message-ID<nnm2n1$mn8$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#24773
On 01.8.2016 г. 02:21, krw@attt.bizz wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 17:56:53 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 31.7.2016 ?. 17:49, krw@attt.bizz wrote:
>>> On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 17:38:22 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 31.7.2016 ?. 17:26, krw@attt.bizz wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 17:22:41 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 31.7.2016 ?. 16:12, krw@attt.bizz wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 13:55:50 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 31.7.2016 ?. 03:06, krw@attt.bizz wrote:
>>>>>>>>> .....
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ARMs are not second sourced because different manufacturers don't
>>>>>>>>>> generally make pin compatible packages.  Even if they did and use the
>>>>>>>>>> same processor, they don't use the same peripherals, so they aren't
>>>>>>>>>> second sourced.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Who cares about pinouts?  Spin the board if your suppliers croaks.  If
>>>>>>>>> they're still building the part, why would you want to change?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm pretty well over this discussion.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You're lying, again.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But he was correct that you are trolling.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You're as stupid as he is, obviously.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps so, engaging in an exchange with the troll of the group
>>>>>> I have known to be  that for many years. Not the brightest
>>>>>> thing to waste my time with indeed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yet you insist on doing what you think to be stupid.  That *is*
>>>>> classical stupid.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Who cares about pinouts. Who cares about the same peripherals.
>>>>>>>> So where is the second sourcing this is about, Einstein.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The peripherals are very similar.  If your code isn't a pile of
>>>>>>> spaghetti, changing one peripheral for another isn't a huge problem.
>>>>>>> The hard stuff doesn't have to change.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So you have to redesign the board, you have to modify the software
>>>>>> and you have a "second source". Whoever told you you have anything
>>>>>> to do with design and programming has lied.
>>>>>
>>>>> Better than having no product to sell.  Yes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have yet to see a post of yours which is other than trolling,
>>>>>>>> could you please keep them within SED, not that CAE is perfect
>>>>>>>> but we don't have any regular trolls.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To put it another way, "here's your sign."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A disagreement is not a troll, stupid.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, feel free to disagree you are a troll. Or that 1+1=2,
>>>>>> whatever.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yet you're stupid enough to continue doing something that you think is
>>>>> stupid.  Amazing.  ...or you're just another liar.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So where did I lie, Einstein.
>>>
>>> You don't read very well.  Either you're stupid or you're a liar. Pick
>>> one.
>>>
>>
>> Ah, so there is an "either/or" now.
>
> You said it.  I just clarified the choice.
>
>> Like your second sourced MCU-s
>> which nobody second sources, I see.
>
> Now who's trolling?  So, I'm to assume the answer is "liar".  Good
> enough.
>

You have yet to point to a lie I have told. You know you cannot - you
must have been trying all day. So you are lying, clearly you take
being a liar as something casual. One more reason for me to dislike you.

Obviously once I have been stupid enough to engage with a troll I will
be trolling, too. Being the group's troll for years does not make you
own the rights for that, you know.

I will not have the patience to troll you out of your habits of course,
this would take days and days, but I can have some fun while you moan
trying to unsay the nonsense you have said or at least steer
the troll exchange elsewhere.

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#24775

FromPaul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid>
Date2016-07-31 17:11 -0700
Message-ID<878twh73ga.fsf@jester.gateway.pace.com>
In reply to#24774
Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com> writes:
> I will not have the patience to troll you out of your habits of course,
> this would take days and days, but I can have some fun while you moan

Can you two get a room?

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#24780

FromJohn Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com>
Date2016-07-31 18:54 -0700
Message-ID<2uatpbd69cehpplqo6625u10pqe0ep6djh@4ax.com>
In reply to#24775
On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 17:11:49 -0700, Paul Rubin
<no.email@nospam.invalid> wrote:

>Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com> writes:
>> I will not have the patience to troll you out of your habits of course,
>> this would take days and days, but I can have some fun while you moan
>
>Can you two get a room?

As long as I don't have to watch.


-- 

John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics 

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#24776

Fromkrw@attt.bizz
Date2016-07-31 20:14 -0400
Message-ID<oh4tpbdi4qr8klq2vg27b4q17jtavrb25r@4ax.com>
In reply to#24774
On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 02:47:46 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
wrote:

>On 01.8.2016 ?. 02:21, krw@attt.bizz wrote:
>> On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 17:56:53 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 31.7.2016 ?. 17:49, krw@attt.bizz wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 17:38:22 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 31.7.2016 ?. 17:26, krw@attt.bizz wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 17:22:41 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 31.7.2016 ?. 16:12, krw@attt.bizz wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 13:55:50 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 31.7.2016 ?. 03:06, krw@attt.bizz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> .....
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ARMs are not second sourced because different manufacturers don't
>>>>>>>>>>> generally make pin compatible packages.  Even if they did and use the
>>>>>>>>>>> same processor, they don't use the same peripherals, so they aren't
>>>>>>>>>>> second sourced.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Who cares about pinouts?  Spin the board if your suppliers croaks.  If
>>>>>>>>>> they're still building the part, why would you want to change?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm pretty well over this discussion.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You're lying, again.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But he was correct that you are trolling.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You're as stupid as he is, obviously.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Perhaps so, engaging in an exchange with the troll of the group
>>>>>>> I have known to be  that for many years. Not the brightest
>>>>>>> thing to waste my time with indeed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yet you insist on doing what you think to be stupid.  That *is*
>>>>>> classical stupid.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Who cares about pinouts. Who cares about the same peripherals.
>>>>>>>>> So where is the second sourcing this is about, Einstein.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The peripherals are very similar.  If your code isn't a pile of
>>>>>>>> spaghetti, changing one peripheral for another isn't a huge problem.
>>>>>>>> The hard stuff doesn't have to change.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So you have to redesign the board, you have to modify the software
>>>>>>> and you have a "second source". Whoever told you you have anything
>>>>>>> to do with design and programming has lied.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Better than having no product to sell.  Yes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have yet to see a post of yours which is other than trolling,
>>>>>>>>> could you please keep them within SED, not that CAE is perfect
>>>>>>>>> but we don't have any regular trolls.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To put it another way, "here's your sign."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A disagreement is not a troll, stupid.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah, feel free to disagree you are a troll. Or that 1+1=2,
>>>>>>> whatever.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yet you're stupid enough to continue doing something that you think is
>>>>>> stupid.  Amazing.  ...or you're just another liar.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So where did I lie, Einstein.
>>>>
>>>> You don't read very well.  Either you're stupid or you're a liar. Pick
>>>> one.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ah, so there is an "either/or" now.
>>
>> You said it.  I just clarified the choice.
>>
>>> Like your second sourced MCU-s
>>> which nobody second sources, I see.
>>
>> Now who's trolling?  So, I'm to assume the answer is "liar".  Good
>> enough.
>>
>
>You have yet to point to a lie I have told. You know you cannot - you
>must have been trying all day. So you are lying, clearly you take
>being a liar as something casual. One more reason for me to dislike you.  

Since you're illiterate, I'll map out the obvious for you.

  - You said you didn't like talking to trolls
  - You accused me of being a troll
  - yet you insist on continuing this thread
 
So either 
  - you're stupid because you're doing what you don't want to do
  - you're a liar because you do enjoy arguing with those who 
    you accuse of being trolls
  - you lied that I'm a troll.

Boo Hoo, you don't like me.  

>Obviously once I have been stupid enough to engage with a troll I will
>be trolling, too. Being the group's troll for years does not make you
>own the rights for that, you know.

So you admit that you are stupid.  Too stupid to read, for sure.

>I will not have the patience to troll you out of your habits of course,
>this would take days and days, but I can have some fun while you moan
>trying to unsay the nonsense you have said or at least steer
>the troll exchange elsewhere.

So you don't like yourself either.  That's understandable.

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#24777

FromDimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
Date2016-08-01 03:42 +0300
Message-ID<nnm5ua$uci$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#24776
On 01.8.2016 г. 03:14, krw@attt.bizz wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 02:47:46 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 01.8.2016 ?. 02:21, krw@attt.bizz wrote:
>>> On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 17:56:53 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 31.7.2016 ?. 17:49, krw@attt.bizz wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 17:38:22 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 31.7.2016 ?. 17:26, krw@attt.bizz wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 17:22:41 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 31.7.2016 ?. 16:12, krw@attt.bizz wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 13:55:50 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 31.7.2016 ?. 03:06, krw@attt.bizz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> .....
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ARMs are not second sourced because different manufacturers don't
>>>>>>>>>>>> generally make pin compatible packages.  Even if they did and use the
>>>>>>>>>>>> same processor, they don't use the same peripherals, so they aren't
>>>>>>>>>>>> second sourced.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Who cares about pinouts?  Spin the board if your suppliers croaks.  If
>>>>>>>>>>> they're still building the part, why would you want to change?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm pretty well over this discussion.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You're lying, again.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But he was correct that you are trolling.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You're as stupid as he is, obviously.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Perhaps so, engaging in an exchange with the troll of the group
>>>>>>>> I have known to be  that for many years. Not the brightest
>>>>>>>> thing to waste my time with indeed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yet you insist on doing what you think to be stupid.  That *is*
>>>>>>> classical stupid.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Who cares about pinouts. Who cares about the same peripherals.
>>>>>>>>>> So where is the second sourcing this is about, Einstein.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The peripherals are very similar.  If your code isn't a pile of
>>>>>>>>> spaghetti, changing one peripheral for another isn't a huge problem.
>>>>>>>>> The hard stuff doesn't have to change.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So you have to redesign the board, you have to modify the software
>>>>>>>> and you have a "second source". Whoever told you you have anything
>>>>>>>> to do with design and programming has lied.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Better than having no product to sell.  Yes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have yet to see a post of yours which is other than trolling,
>>>>>>>>>> could you please keep them within SED, not that CAE is perfect
>>>>>>>>>> but we don't have any regular trolls.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To put it another way, "here's your sign."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A disagreement is not a troll, stupid.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah, feel free to disagree you are a troll. Or that 1+1=2,
>>>>>>>> whatever.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yet you're stupid enough to continue doing something that you think is
>>>>>>> stupid.  Amazing.  ...or you're just another liar.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So where did I lie, Einstein.
>>>>>
>>>>> You don't read very well.  Either you're stupid or you're a liar. Pick
>>>>> one.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ah, so there is an "either/or" now.
>>>
>>> You said it.  I just clarified the choice.
>>>
>>>> Like your second sourced MCU-s
>>>> which nobody second sources, I see.
>>>
>>> Now who's trolling?  So, I'm to assume the answer is "liar".  Good
>>> enough.
>>>
>>
>> You have yet to point to a lie I have told. You know you cannot - you
>> must have been trying all day. So you are lying, clearly you take
>> being a liar as something casual. One more reason for me to dislike you.
>
> Since you're illiterate, I'll map out the obvious for you.
>
>    - You said you didn't like talking to trolls
>    - You accused me of being a troll
>    - yet you insist on continuing this thread

Most of the above is true, yes. "Insist" is not true but I do
continue it for now, just as you do.

>
> So either
>    - you're stupid because you're doing what you don't want to do

I have done stupid things in the past and I probably will do some
in the future, yes. I knew you were a troll and I knew you would
respond the way you did beforehand; but I did take some fun of
cornering you about the nonsense you said trying to demonstrate
knowledge you do not have because I dislike you.

>    - you're a liar because you do enjoy arguing with those who

I don't understand "those two", sorry. Are you that? This
would be a medical issue.

>      you accuse of being trolls

Yes. Both of you I suppose?

>    - you lied that I'm a troll.

No, this is a fact. I have not seen one post of yours with substance
and I have seen tens of your posts. Most of them are plain trolling.

>
> Boo Hoo, you don't like me.
>
>> Obviously once I have been stupid enough to engage with a troll I will
>> be trolling, too. Being the group's troll for years does not make you
>> own the rights for that, you know.
>
> So you admit that you are stupid.  Too stupid to read, for sure.

I have no problem admitting I have been stupid of course. Why are you
so frightened of doing so?

>> I will not have the patience to troll you out of your habits of course,
>> this would take days and days, but I can have some fun while you moan
>> trying to unsay the nonsense you have said or at least steer
>> the troll exchange elsewhere.
>
> So you don't like yourself either.  That's understandable.

I don't spend much time thinking about liking myself or not so I don't
know that. But I certainly don't produce the reasons to be disliked
which you produce.


You could of course have said you were wrong to claim there were ARM
MCUs which have a second source, everybody says something stupid
sometimes, and there would have been less posts demonstrating your
incompetence.

Be my guest, I'll stop when I get tired of it but I am not there yet.


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#24778

Fromkrw@attt.bizz
Date2016-07-31 21:05 -0400
Message-ID<mh7tpbdbojs120104dgjmufdos62653jfa@4ax.com>
In reply to#24777
On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 03:42:51 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
wrote:

>On 01.8.2016 ?. 03:14, krw@attt.bizz wrote:
>> On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 02:47:46 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 01.8.2016 ?. 02:21, krw@attt.bizz wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 17:56:53 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 31.7.2016 ?. 17:49, krw@attt.bizz wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 17:38:22 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 31.7.2016 ?. 17:26, krw@attt.bizz wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 17:22:41 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 31.7.2016 ?. 16:12, krw@attt.bizz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 13:55:50 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 31.7.2016 ?. 03:06, krw@attt.bizz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> .....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ARMs are not second sourced because different manufacturers don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> generally make pin compatible packages.  Even if they did and use the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> same processor, they don't use the same peripherals, so they aren't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> second sourced.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Who cares about pinouts?  Spin the board if your suppliers croaks.  If
>>>>>>>>>>>> they're still building the part, why would you want to change?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm pretty well over this discussion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You're lying, again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But he was correct that you are trolling.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You're as stupid as he is, obviously.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Perhaps so, engaging in an exchange with the troll of the group
>>>>>>>>> I have known to be  that for many years. Not the brightest
>>>>>>>>> thing to waste my time with indeed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yet you insist on doing what you think to be stupid.  That *is*
>>>>>>>> classical stupid.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Who cares about pinouts. Who cares about the same peripherals.
>>>>>>>>>>> So where is the second sourcing this is about, Einstein.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The peripherals are very similar.  If your code isn't a pile of
>>>>>>>>>> spaghetti, changing one peripheral for another isn't a huge problem.
>>>>>>>>>> The hard stuff doesn't have to change.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So you have to redesign the board, you have to modify the software
>>>>>>>>> and you have a "second source". Whoever told you you have anything
>>>>>>>>> to do with design and programming has lied.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Better than having no product to sell.  Yes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have yet to see a post of yours which is other than trolling,
>>>>>>>>>>> could you please keep them within SED, not that CAE is perfect
>>>>>>>>>>> but we don't have any regular trolls.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> To put it another way, "here's your sign."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A disagreement is not a troll, stupid.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yeah, feel free to disagree you are a troll. Or that 1+1=2,
>>>>>>>>> whatever.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yet you're stupid enough to continue doing something that you think is
>>>>>>>> stupid.  Amazing.  ...or you're just another liar.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So where did I lie, Einstein.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You don't read very well.  Either you're stupid or you're a liar. Pick
>>>>>> one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah, so there is an "either/or" now.
>>>>
>>>> You said it.  I just clarified the choice.
>>>>
>>>>> Like your second sourced MCU-s
>>>>> which nobody second sources, I see.
>>>>
>>>> Now who's trolling?  So, I'm to assume the answer is "liar".  Good
>>>> enough.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You have yet to point to a lie I have told. You know you cannot - you
>>> must have been trying all day. So you are lying, clearly you take
>>> being a liar as something casual. One more reason for me to dislike you.
>>
>> Since you're illiterate, I'll map out the obvious for you.
>>
>>    - You said you didn't like talking to trolls
>>    - You accused me of being a troll
>>    - yet you insist on continuing this thread
>
>Most of the above is true, yes. "Insist" is not true but I do
>continue it for now, just as you do.

I'm not the one who made the original assertion.
>
>>
>> So either
>>    - you're stupid because you're doing what you don't want to do
>
>I have done stupid things in the past and I probably will do some
>in the future, yes. I knew you were a troll and I knew you would
>respond the way you did beforehand; but I did take some fun of
>cornering you about the nonsense you said trying to demonstrate
>knowledge you do not have because I dislike you.

You're lying, again.  In case you hadn't noticed, I really don't care
whether you like me or beer, for that matter.  You really appear to be
lying, though.  You simply can't stop yourself.
>
>>    - you're a liar because you do enjoy arguing with those who
>
>I don't understand "those two", sorry. Are you that? This
>would be a medical issue.

Of course you don't.  You're stupid, remember?
>
>>      you accuse of being trolls
>
>Yes. Both of you I suppose?

More evidence of "stupid".
>
>>    - you lied that I'm a troll.
>
>No, this is a fact. I have not seen one post of yours with substance
>and I have seen tens of your posts. Most of them are plain trolling.

Well, it appears that the real answer may be "stupid liar".  That
works.
>>
>> Boo Hoo, you don't like me.
>>
>>> Obviously once I have been stupid enough to engage with a troll I will
>>> be trolling, too. Being the group's troll for years does not make you
>>> own the rights for that, you know.
>>
>> So you admit that you are stupid.  Too stupid to read, for sure.
>
>I have no problem admitting I have been stupid of course. Why are you
>so frightened of doing so?

Frightened?  No, you were the one who objected to either possibility
that I proposed for your posting.  Since you've admitted that you're
stupid (after proving that you're illiterate), we only have to nail
down "liar".  You seem to be working on that one, now, too.  
>
>>> I will not have the patience to troll you out of your habits of course,
>>> this would take days and days, but I can have some fun while you moan
>>> trying to unsay the nonsense you have said or at least steer
>>> the troll exchange elsewhere.
>>
>> So you don't like yourself either.  That's understandable.
>
>I don't spend much time thinking about liking myself or not so I don't
>know that. But I certainly don't produce the reasons to be disliked
>which you produce.

You lie to yourself, too.  Makes sense.
>
>You could of course have said you were wrong to claim there were ARM
>MCUs which have a second source, everybody says something stupid
>sometimes, and there would have been less posts demonstrating your
>incompetence.

There is only one manufacturer of ARM CPUs?  You're either stupid or a
liar (but both, now seems to be the more reasonable answer).

>Be my guest, I'll stop when I get tired of it but I am not there yet.

Keep going.  You're simply proving that you're stupid and a liar, the
more you post.

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#24779

FromDimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
Date2016-08-01 04:38 +0300
Message-ID<nnm96q$4mh$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#24778
On 01.8.2016 г. 04:05, krw@attt.bizz wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 03:42:51 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 01.8.2016 ?. 03:14, krw@attt.bizz wrote:
>>> On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 02:47:46 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 01.8.2016 ?. 02:21, krw@attt.bizz wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 17:56:53 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 31.7.2016 ?. 17:49, krw@attt.bizz wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 17:38:22 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 31.7.2016 ?. 17:26, krw@attt.bizz wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 17:22:41 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 31.7.2016 ?. 16:12, krw@attt.bizz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 13:55:50 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 31.7.2016 ?. 03:06, krw@attt.bizz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> .....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ARMs are not second sourced because different manufacturers don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> generally make pin compatible packages.  Even if they did and use the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same processor, they don't use the same peripherals, so they aren't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> second sourced.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who cares about pinouts?  Spin the board if your suppliers croaks.  If
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they're still building the part, why would you want to change?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm pretty well over this discussion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're lying, again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> But he was correct that you are trolling.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You're as stupid as he is, obviously.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps so, engaging in an exchange with the troll of the group
>>>>>>>>>> I have known to be  that for many years. Not the brightest
>>>>>>>>>> thing to waste my time with indeed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yet you insist on doing what you think to be stupid.  That *is*
>>>>>>>>> classical stupid.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Who cares about pinouts. Who cares about the same peripherals.
>>>>>>>>>>>> So where is the second sourcing this is about, Einstein.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The peripherals are very similar.  If your code isn't a pile of
>>>>>>>>>>> spaghetti, changing one peripheral for another isn't a huge problem.
>>>>>>>>>>> The hard stuff doesn't have to change.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So you have to redesign the board, you have to modify the software
>>>>>>>>>> and you have a "second source". Whoever told you you have anything
>>>>>>>>>> to do with design and programming has lied.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Better than having no product to sell.  Yes.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have yet to see a post of yours which is other than trolling,
>>>>>>>>>>>> could you please keep them within SED, not that CAE is perfect
>>>>>>>>>>>> but we don't have any regular trolls.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> To put it another way, "here's your sign."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> A disagreement is not a troll, stupid.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, feel free to disagree you are a troll. Or that 1+1=2,
>>>>>>>>>> whatever.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yet you're stupid enough to continue doing something that you think is
>>>>>>>>> stupid.  Amazing.  ...or you're just another liar.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So where did I lie, Einstein.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You don't read very well.  Either you're stupid or you're a liar. Pick
>>>>>>> one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ah, so there is an "either/or" now.
>>>>>
>>>>> You said it.  I just clarified the choice.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Like your second sourced MCU-s
>>>>>> which nobody second sources, I see.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now who's trolling?  So, I'm to assume the answer is "liar".  Good
>>>>> enough.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You have yet to point to a lie I have told. You know you cannot - you
>>>> must have been trying all day. So you are lying, clearly you take
>>>> being a liar as something casual. One more reason for me to dislike you.
>>>
>>> Since you're illiterate, I'll map out the obvious for you.
>>>
>>>     - You said you didn't like talking to trolls
>>>     - You accused me of being a troll
>>>     - yet you insist on continuing this thread
>>
>> Most of the above is true, yes. "Insist" is not true but I do
>> continue it for now, just as you do.
>
> I'm not the one who made the original assertion.
>>
>>>
>>> So either
>>>     - you're stupid because you're doing what you don't want to do
>>
>> I have done stupid things in the past and I probably will do some
>> in the future, yes. I knew you were a troll and I knew you would
>> respond the way you did beforehand; but I did take some fun of
>> cornering you about the nonsense you said trying to demonstrate
>> knowledge you do not have because I dislike you.
>
> You're lying, again.  In case you hadn't noticed, I really don't care
> whether you like me or beer, for that matter.  You really appear to be
> lying, though.  You simply can't stop yourself.

Lying seems to be quite a part of your life, eh? You keep on talking
about it in a clearly disturbed way, you want so much to catch me
in a lie. Well, you cannot - and better stop trying because you
won't, ever. You can only get suffocated of anger in your frustration,
the symptoms are already there to see.

>>
>>>     - you're a liar because you do enjoy arguing with those who
>>
>> I don't understand "those two", sorry. Are you that? This
>> would be a medical issue.
>
> Of course you don't.  You're stupid, remember?
>>
>>>       you accuse of being trolls
>>
>> Yes. Both of you I suppose?
>
> More evidence of "stupid".

Ah, you are already gulping. Suffocating may come next, beware.

>>
>>>     - you lied that I'm a troll.
>>
>> No, this is a fact. I have not seen one post of yours with substance
>> and I have seen tens of your posts. Most of them are plain trolling.
>
> Well, it appears that the real answer may be "stupid liar".  That
> works.

Whatever works for you, just try not to suffocate.
And yes you are a troll, a classic case. Do you really
don't know it after all these years?

>>>
>>> Boo Hoo, you don't like me.
>>>
>>>> Obviously once I have been stupid enough to engage with a troll I will
>>>> be trolling, too. Being the group's troll for years does not make you
>>>> own the rights for that, you know.
>>>
>>> So you admit that you are stupid.  Too stupid to read, for sure.
>>
>> I have no problem admitting I have been stupid of course. Why are you
>> so frightened of doing so?
>
> Frightened?  No, you were the one who objected to either possibility
> that I proposed for your posting.  Since you've admitted that you're
> stupid (after proving that you're illiterate), we only have to nail
> down "liar".  You seem to be working on that one, now, too.

So you are frightened to admit you are incompetent and are frightened
to think why.

>>
>>>> I will not have the patience to troll you out of your habits of course,
>>>> this would take days and days, but I can have some fun while you moan
>>>> trying to unsay the nonsense you have said or at least steer
>>>> the troll exchange elsewhere.
>>>
>>> So you don't like yourself either.  That's understandable.
>>
>> I don't spend much time thinking about liking myself or not so I don't
>> know that. But I certainly don't produce the reasons to be disliked
>> which you produce.
>
> You lie to yourself, too.  Makes sense.

No, though I may occasionally be deluded like most people.
Lying is part of your life, not mine, remember.

>> You could of course have said you were wrong to claim there were ARM
>> MCUs which have a second source, everybody says something stupid
>> sometimes, and there would have been less posts demonstrating your
>> incompetence.
>
> There is only one manufacturer of ARM CPUs?  You're either stupid or a
> liar (but both, now seems to be the more reasonable answer).

You insist on demonstrating incompetence. Learn the meaning of "second
source". I was with the impression someone was paying you to be an
engineer of sorts?

>> Be my guest, I'll stop when I get tired of it but I am not there yet.
>
> Keep going.  You're simply proving that you're stupid and a liar, the
> more you post.
>

Your turn, demonstrate some more incompetence. I may be losing the
interest, you have to do better than just raging around if you
want to keep me in.

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#24781

Fromkrw <krw@nowhere.com>
Date2016-07-31 22:39 -0400
Message-ID<gedtpb5p7n7n2uji9ldcr1j6l66hc1ubi0@4ax.com>
In reply to#24779
On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 04:38:35 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
wrote:

>On 01.8.2016 ?. 04:05, krw@attt.bizz wrote:
>> On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 03:42:51 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 01.8.2016 ?. 03:14, krw@attt.bizz wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 02:47:46 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 01.8.2016 ?. 02:21, krw@attt.bizz wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 17:56:53 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 31.7.2016 ?. 17:49, krw@attt.bizz wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 17:38:22 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 31.7.2016 ?. 17:26, krw@attt.bizz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 17:22:41 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 31.7.2016 ?. 16:12, krw@attt.bizz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 13:55:50 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 31.7.2016 ?. 03:06, krw@attt.bizz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ARMs are not second sourced because different manufacturers don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> generally make pin compatible packages.  Even if they did and use the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same processor, they don't use the same peripherals, so they aren't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> second sourced.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who cares about pinouts?  Spin the board if your suppliers croaks.  If
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they're still building the part, why would you want to change?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm pretty well over this discussion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're lying, again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But he was correct that you are trolling.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You're as stupid as he is, obviously.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps so, engaging in an exchange with the troll of the group
>>>>>>>>>>> I have known to be  that for many years. Not the brightest
>>>>>>>>>>> thing to waste my time with indeed.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yet you insist on doing what you think to be stupid.  That *is*
>>>>>>>>>> classical stupid.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who cares about pinouts. Who cares about the same peripherals.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So where is the second sourcing this is about, Einstein.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The peripherals are very similar.  If your code isn't a pile of
>>>>>>>>>>>> spaghetti, changing one peripheral for another isn't a huge problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The hard stuff doesn't have to change.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So you have to redesign the board, you have to modify the software
>>>>>>>>>>> and you have a "second source". Whoever told you you have anything
>>>>>>>>>>> to do with design and programming has lied.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Better than having no product to sell.  Yes.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have yet to see a post of yours which is other than trolling,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> could you please keep them within SED, not that CAE is perfect
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but we don't have any regular trolls.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To put it another way, "here's your sign."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> A disagreement is not a troll, stupid.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, feel free to disagree you are a troll. Or that 1+1=2,
>>>>>>>>>>> whatever.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yet you're stupid enough to continue doing something that you think is
>>>>>>>>>> stupid.  Amazing.  ...or you're just another liar.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So where did I lie, Einstein.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You don't read very well.  Either you're stupid or you're a liar. Pick
>>>>>>>> one.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ah, so there is an "either/or" now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You said it.  I just clarified the choice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Like your second sourced MCU-s
>>>>>>> which nobody second sources, I see.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now who's trolling?  So, I'm to assume the answer is "liar".  Good
>>>>>> enough.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You have yet to point to a lie I have told. You know you cannot - you
>>>>> must have been trying all day. So you are lying, clearly you take
>>>>> being a liar as something casual. One more reason for me to dislike you.
>>>>
>>>> Since you're illiterate, I'll map out the obvious for you.
>>>>
>>>>     - You said you didn't like talking to trolls
>>>>     - You accused me of being a troll
>>>>     - yet you insist on continuing this thread
>>>
>>> Most of the above is true, yes. "Insist" is not true but I do
>>> continue it for now, just as you do.
>>
>> I'm not the one who made the original assertion.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> So either
>>>>     - you're stupid because you're doing what you don't want to do
>>>
>>> I have done stupid things in the past and I probably will do some
>>> in the future, yes. I knew you were a troll and I knew you would
>>> respond the way you did beforehand; but I did take some fun of
>>> cornering you about the nonsense you said trying to demonstrate
>>> knowledge you do not have because I dislike you.
>>
>> You're lying, again.  In case you hadn't noticed, I really don't care
>> whether you like me or beer, for that matter.  You really appear to be
>> lying, though.  You simply can't stop yourself.
>
>Lying seems to be quite a part of your life, eh? You keep on talking
>about it in a clearly disturbed way, you want so much to catch me
>in a lie. Well, you cannot - and better stop trying because you
>won't, ever. You can only get suffocated of anger in your frustration,
>the symptoms are already there to see.
>
Good Lord, you're stupid!

>>>
>>>>     - you're a liar because you do enjoy arguing with those who
>>>
>>> I don't understand "those two", sorry. Are you that? This
>>> would be a medical issue.
>>
>> Of course you don't.  You're stupid, remember?
>>>
>>>>       you accuse of being trolls
>>>
>>> Yes. Both of you I suppose?
>>
>> More evidence of "stupid".
>
>Ah, you are already gulping. Suffocating may come next, beware.

Now you're projecting, too.  
>
>>>
>>>>     - you lied that I'm a troll.
>>>
>>> No, this is a fact. I have not seen one post of yours with substance
>>> and I have seen tens of your posts. Most of them are plain trolling.
>>
>> Well, it appears that the real answer may be "stupid liar".  That
>> works.
>
>Whatever works for you, just try not to suffocate.
>And yes you are a troll, a classic case. Do you really
>don't know it after all these years?
>
>>>>
>>>> Boo Hoo, you don't like me.
>>>>
>>>>> Obviously once I have been stupid enough to engage with a troll I will
>>>>> be trolling, too. Being the group's troll for years does not make you
>>>>> own the rights for that, you know.
>>>>
>>>> So you admit that you are stupid.  Too stupid to read, for sure.
>>>
>>> I have no problem admitting I have been stupid of course. Why are you
>>> so frightened of doing so?
>>
>> Frightened?  No, you were the one who objected to either possibility
>> that I proposed for your posting.  Since you've admitted that you're
>> stupid (after proving that you're illiterate), we only have to nail
>> down "liar".  You seem to be working on that one, now, too.
>
>So you are frightened to admit you are incompetent and are frightened
>to think why.

Projecting again.
>>>
>>>>> I will not have the patience to troll you out of your habits of course,
>>>>> this would take days and days, but I can have some fun while you moan
>>>>> trying to unsay the nonsense you have said or at least steer
>>>>> the troll exchange elsewhere.
>>>>
>>>> So you don't like yourself either.  That's understandable.
>>>
>>> I don't spend much time thinking about liking myself or not so I don't
>>> know that. But I certainly don't produce the reasons to be disliked
>>> which you produce.
>>
>> You lie to yourself, too.  Makes sense.
>
>No, though I may occasionally be deluded like most people.
>Lying is part of your life, not mine, remember.

No, you're just plain stupid.

>>> You could of course have said you were wrong to claim there were ARM
>>> MCUs which have a second source, everybody says something stupid
>>> sometimes, and there would have been less posts demonstrating your
>>> incompetence.
>>
>> There is only one manufacturer of ARM CPUs?  You're either stupid or a
>> liar (but both, now seems to be the more reasonable answer).
>
>You insist on demonstrating incompetence. Learn the meaning of "second
>source". I was with the impression someone was paying you to be an
>engineer of sorts?
>
>>> Be my guest, I'll stop when I get tired of it but I am not there yet.
>>
>> Keep going.  You're simply proving that you're stupid and a liar, the
>> more you post.
>>
>
>Your turn, demonstrate some more incompetence. I may be losing the
>interest, you have to do better than just raging around if you
>want to keep me in.

I'm not demonstrating anything.  You're doing a good job of showing
just how stupid you really are, though.

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