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Re: RS485 over optical fiber cable

From Rob Gaddi <rgaddi@highlandtechnology.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.arch.embedded
Subject Re: RS485 over optical fiber cable
Date 2018-11-05 09:12 -0800
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On 11/5/18 12:40 AM, pozz wrote:
> Il 02/11/2018 23:57, Stef ha scritto:
>> On 2018-11-02 Tauno Voipio wrote in comp.arch.embedded:
>> [...]
>>> The bias resistors are still necessary to handle an idle line.
>>
>> With "fail safe" receivers, a termination resistor alone will
>> keep the differential voltage low enough for the receiver to see
>> 'idle'. But if ypou can ad bias, why not do it?
>>
>>
>> Why is Pozz trying to do this without termination?
>> On RS485, use termination! Never had trouble with termination,
>> have had trouble without.
> 
> I try to clarify my questions on termination resistors.
> 
> I can really use them. The higher power dissipation is interesting in my 
> battery-powered application, but I think I will have enough energy. So 
> this isn't a problem.
> 
> I will use a termination resistor on both sides. My concerns were on the 
> resistor correct value. If I need a termination, I need to use a correct 
> resistor value. Is it critical?
> 
> The other problem with signal ground, I know it is better to connect it 
> together with A and B. However it would be much more simple and cheap to 
> use a simple couple instead of a full CAT5E cable.
> 
> 
>> Just remembered an occasion where I had to source a resistor in a
>> remote location with no electronics shop anywhere nearby. And then
>> climb a 70m ladder to install it. Then you really wonder why they
>> originally did not install a termination resistor. :-(

Depending on the application, you may also be able to save power by 
disabling the transmitter when you're not transmitting.  You'll need to 
think about the implications for the receiver: the failsafe logic, etc. 
But if you're only transmitting 1% of the time, you only need to be 
dumping current into those termination resistors 1% of the time.

-- 
Rob Gaddi, Highland Technology -- www.highlandtechnology.com
Email address domain is currently out of order.  See above to fix.

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RS485 over optical fiber cable pozz <pozzugno@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 15:00 +0100
  Re: RS485 over optical fiber cable raimond.dragomir@gmail.com - 2018-10-30 07:26 -0700
    Re: RS485 over optical fiber cable pozz <pozzugno@gmail.com> - 2018-10-31 12:41 +0100
      Re: RS485 over optical fiber cable raimond.dragomir@gmail.com - 2018-10-31 05:55 -0700
      Re: RS485 over optical fiber cable Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2018-10-31 14:03 +0000
        Re: RS485 over optical fiber cable John Speth <johnspeth@yahoo.com> - 2018-10-31 09:35 -0700
          Re: RS485 over optical fiber cable Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2018-10-31 16:48 +0000
            Re: RS485 over optical fiber cable pozz <pozzugno@gmail.com> - 2018-11-02 14:44 +0100
              Re: RS485 over optical fiber cable Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2018-11-02 11:00 -0400
                Re: RS485 over optical fiber cable upsidedown@downunder.com - 2018-11-02 20:42 +0200
              Re: RS485 over optical fiber cable raimond.dragomir@gmail.com - 2018-11-02 08:18 -0700
              Re: RS485 over optical fiber cable Mike Perkins <spam@spam.com> - 2018-11-02 15:22 +0000
                Re: RS485 over optical fiber cable Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2018-11-02 21:31 +0200
                Re: RS485 over optical fiber cable Mike Perkins <spam@spam.com> - 2018-11-02 20:12 +0000
                Re: RS485 over optical fiber cable Stef <stef33d@yahooI-N-V-A-L-I-D.com.invalid> - 2018-11-02 23:57 +0100
                Re: RS485 over optical fiber cable upsidedown@downunder.com - 2018-11-03 01:18 +0200
                Re: RS485 over optical fiber cable Mike Perkins <spam@spam.com> - 2018-11-03 19:05 +0000
                Re: RS485 over optical fiber cable Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2018-11-03 17:36 -0400
                Re: RS485 over optical fiber cable gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-11-03 19:49 -0700
                Re: RS485 over optical fiber cable upsidedown@downunder.com - 2018-11-04 07:50 +0200
                Re: RS485 over optical fiber cable pozz <pozzugno@gmail.com> - 2018-11-05 09:40 +0100
                Re: RS485 over optical fiber cable Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2018-11-05 06:45 -0500
                Re: RS485 over optical fiber cable Rob Gaddi <rgaddi@highlandtechnology.invalid> - 2018-11-05 09:12 -0800
              Re: RS485 over optical fiber cable Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2018-11-02 18:21 +0000
                Re: RS485 over optical fiber cable upsidedown@downunder.com - 2018-11-03 00:02 +0200
          Re: RS485 over optical fiber cable pozz <pozzugno@gmail.com> - 2018-11-02 14:36 +0100
    Re: RS485 over optical fiber cable "Mat Nieuwenhoven" <mnieuw@zap.a2000.nl> - 2018-10-31 16:32 +0100
    Re: RS485 over optical fiber cable upsidedown@downunder.com - 2018-10-31 22:41 +0200
  Re: RS485 over optical fiber cable Chris <c@b.a> - 2018-10-31 12:16 +1100
    Re: RS485 over optical fiber cable upsidedown@downunder.com - 2018-11-02 06:52 +0200
  Re: RS485 over optical fiber cable Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2018-10-31 09:11 -0500
  Re: RS485 over optical fiber cable peter jakacki <peterjakacki@gmail.com> - 2018-11-12 19:57 -0800
    Re: RS485 over optical fiber cable upsidedown@downunder.com - 2018-11-13 08:09 +0200

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