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| From | Hans-Bernhard Bröker <HBBroeker@t-online.de> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.arch.embedded |
| Subject | Re: baud rate autodetection on AVR 8-bit? [ User friendly RS-232/EIA-232 ? ] |
| Date | 2012-12-09 16:19 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <aijofdFm7cdU1@mid.dfncis.de> (permalink) |
| References | <86sj7iuetv.fsf@gray.siamics.net> <50c45e31$0$284$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> |
On 09.12.2012 10:47, Glenn wrote: > After so many years with that "stupid vintage" serial communications > protocol, we still do not have autonegotiation (and auto-baud-detection) > built into the protocol definitions. Why not? Because there really is nothing to negotiate. > Why have nobody made a request-for-comment about that, For starters, because I'm pretty sure there is no RFC mechanism in place for the body that this specification is from. If that body still exists, that is. > It is simply incredibly, that after so many decades, you manually has to > find out, how to get it to work. Actually no. It's exactly because of all those decades, and the myriad of devices already in the field, that this specification is, for all practical intents and purposes, immutable. No change you could come up with now would help one bit with all those devices. And if a change doesn't achieve anything for the overwhelming majority of applications, what point could there possibly be?
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baud rate autodetection on AVR 8-bit? Ivan Shmakov <oneingray@gmail.com> - 2012-12-07 21:17 +0700
Re: baud rate autodetection on AVR 8-bit? Rich Webb <bbew.ar@mapson.nozirev.ten> - 2012-12-07 10:28 -0500
Re: baud rate autodetection on AVR 8-bit? Ivan Shmakov <oneingray@gmail.com> - 2012-12-07 23:31 +0700
Re: baud rate autodetection on AVR 8-bit? Rich Webb <bbew.ar@mapson.nozirev.ten> - 2012-12-07 12:42 -0500
Re: baud rate autodetection on AVR 8-bit? mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2012-12-07 13:35 -0800
Re: baud rate autodetection on AVR 8-bit? Rich Webb <bbew.ar@mapson.nozirev.ten> - 2012-12-07 20:07 -0500
Re: baud rate autodetection on AVR 8-bit? Mark Borgerson <mborgerson@comcast.net> - 2012-12-07 23:43 -0800
Re: baud rate autodetection on AVR 8-bit? Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.com> - 2012-12-07 13:07 -0600
Re: baud rate autodetection on AVR 8-bit? Dave Nadler <drn@nadler.com> - 2012-12-07 12:09 -0800
Re: baud rate autodetection on AVR 8-bit? Ivan Shmakov <oneingray@gmail.com> - 2012-12-08 03:47 +0700
Re: baud rate autodetection on AVR 8-bit? MK <mk@nospam.co.uk> - 2012-12-08 09:44 +0000
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Re: baud rate autodetection on AVR 8-bit? upsidedown@downunder.com - 2012-12-08 15:01 +0200
Re: baud rate autodetection on AVR 8-bit? Dombo <dombo@disposable.invalid> - 2012-12-08 15:18 +0100
Re: baud rate autodetection on AVR 8-bit? [ User friendly RS-232/EIA-232 ? ] Glenn <glenn2233@gmail.com> - 2012-12-09 10:47 +0100
Re: baud rate autodetection on AVR 8-bit? [ User friendly RS-232/EIA-232 ? ] "Paul E. Bennett" <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk> - 2012-12-09 10:22 +0000
Re: baud rate autodetection on AVR 8-bit? [ User friendly RS-232/EIA-232 ? ] "Bruce Varley" <bv@NoSpam.com> - 2012-12-09 19:07 +0800
Re: baud rate autodetection on AVR 8-bit? [ User friendly RS-232/EIA-232 ? ] Paul <paul@pcserviceselectronics.co.uk> - 2012-12-09 13:27 +0000
Re: baud rate autodetection on AVR 8-bit? [ User friendly RS-232/EIA-232 ? ] Hans-Bernhard Bröker <HBBroeker@t-online.de> - 2012-12-09 16:19 +0100
Re: baud rate autodetection on AVR 8-bit? [ User friendly RS-232/EIA-232 ? ] "TTman" <pcw1.cad@ntlworld.com> - 2012-12-09 15:38 +0000
Re: baud rate autodetection on AVR 8-bit? [ User friendly RS-232/EIA-232 ? ] amdyer@gmail.com - 2012-12-09 07:45 -0800
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Re: baud rate autodetection on AVR 8-bit? [ User friendly RS-232/EIA-232 ? ] Paul <paul@pcserviceselectronics.co.uk> - 2012-12-09 21:30 +0000
Re: baud rate autodetection on AVR 8-bit? [ User friendly RS-232/EIA-232 ? ] John Larkin <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> - 2012-12-09 09:02 -0800
Re: baud rate autodetection on AVR 8-bit? [ User friendly RS-232/EIA-232 ? ] Lanarcam <lanarcam1@yahoo.fr> - 2012-12-09 18:13 +0100
Re: baud rate autodetection on AVR 8-bit? [ User friendly RS-232/EIA-232 ? ] upsidedown@downunder.com - 2012-12-09 19:44 +0200
Re: baud rate autodetection on AVR 8-bit? [ User friendly RS-232/EIA-232 ? ] Paul <paul@pcserviceselectronics.co.uk> - 2012-12-09 21:32 +0000
Re: baud rate autodetection on AVR 8-bit? [ User friendly RS-232/EIA-232 ? ] Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-10 00:35 -0600
Re: baud rate autodetection on AVR 8-bit? [ User friendly RS-232/EIA-232 ? ] josephkk <joseph_barrett@sbcglobal.net> - 2012-12-12 20:30 -0800
Re: baud rate autodetection on AVR 8-bit? "Meindert Sprang" <ms@NOJUNKcustomORSPAMware.nl> - 2012-12-10 13:38 +0100
Re: baud rate autodetection on AVR 8-bit? Ivan Shmakov <oneingray@gmail.com> - 2012-12-10 20:19 +0700
Re: baud rate autodetection on AVR 8-bit? "Meindert Sprang" <ms@NOJUNKcustomORSPAMware.nl> - 2012-12-10 16:24 +0100
Re: baud rate autodetection on AVR 8-bit? Arlet Ottens <usenet+5@c-scape.nl> - 2012-12-10 16:49 +0100
Re: baud rate autodetection on AVR 8-bit? Rich Webb <bbew.ar@mapson.nozirev.ten> - 2012-12-12 08:50 -0500
Re: baud rate autodetection on AVR 8-bit? j.m.granville@gmail.com - 2012-12-11 21:22 -0800
Re: baud rate autodetection on AVR 8-bit? Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-12 00:29 -0600
Re: baud rate autodetection on AVR 8-bit? Mark Borgerson <mborgerson@comcast.net> - 2012-12-11 23:43 -0800
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Re: baud rate autodetection on AVR 8-bit? Jon Kirwan <jonk@infinitefactors.org> - 2012-12-12 12:42 -0800
Re: baud rate autodetection on AVR 8-bit? Jon Kirwan <jonk@infinitefactors.org> - 2012-12-12 12:56 -0800
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Re: serial host-to-device communication in amateur designs Jon Kirwan <jonk@infinitefactors.org> - 2012-12-14 11:19 -0800
Re: serial host-to-device communication in amateur designs Ivan Shmakov <oneingray@gmail.com> - 2012-12-16 21:00 +0700
Re: serial host-to-device communication in amateur designs Jon Kirwan <jonk@infinitefactors.org> - 2012-12-16 13:46 -0800
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Re: serial host-to-device communication in amateur designs Rob Gaddi <rgaddi@technologyhighland.invalid> - 2012-12-20 12:01 -0800
Re: serial host-to-device communication in amateur designs Jon Kirwan <jonk@infinitefactors.org> - 2012-12-20 12:27 -0800
Re: serial host-to-device communication in amateur designs Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2012-12-14 17:53 +0000
Re: serial host-to-device communication in amateur designs Ivan Shmakov <oneingray@gmail.com> - 2012-12-15 01:26 +0700
Re: serial host-to-device communication in amateur designs Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2012-12-14 19:30 +0000
Re: serial host-to-device communication in amateur designs Ivan Shmakov <oneingray@gmail.com> - 2012-12-15 11:25 +0700
Re: serial host-to-device communication in amateur designs Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2012-12-17 00:29 +0000
Re: serial host-to-device communication in amateur designs me@linnix.info-for.us - 2012-12-17 11:05 -0800
Re: serial host-to-device communication in amateur designs Rich Webb <bbew.ar@mapson.nozirev.ten> - 2012-12-14 14:34 -0500
Re: serial host-to-device communication in amateur designs Paul <paul@pcserviceselectronics.co.uk> - 2012-12-14 23:25 +0000
finer pitches Ivan Shmakov <oneingray@gmail.com> - 2012-12-16 20:48 +0700
Re: serial host-to-device communication in amateur designs Mark Borgerson <mborgerson@comcast.net> - 2012-12-14 21:26 -0800
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