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| From | Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> |
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| Newsgroups | aus.cars, aus.science |
| Subject | Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire |
| Date | 2023-03-09 10:56 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <k6sllfF8tknU6@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
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Cross-posted to 2 groups.
On 9/3/2023 8:41 am, Trevor Wilson wrote: > On 9/03/2023 8:21 am, Keithr0 wrote: >> On 9/03/2023 7:14 am, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>> On 9/03/2023 8:11 am, Noddy wrote: >>>> On 9/03/2023 7:50 am, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>> On 8/03/2023 3:22 pm, Noddy wrote: >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> You live in a strange fantasy world. You can get far enough away >>>>>> from a disaster on a jerry can of fuel regardless of whatever you >>>>>> happen to drive, and refilling it to keep it fresh once a year >>>>>> isn't a big deal. Use the old fuel in your mower and refill the >>>>>> container with fresh fuel for your escape. >>>>>> >>>>>> Assuming, of course, this kind of fantasy situation ever arises >>>>>> which is highly unlikely :) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> **You could substitute 'zombie apocalypse' for a Chinese blockade >>>>> of sea freight to and from Australia. When/if that occurs, EV >>>>> owners will be the only vehicles travelling anywhere. >>>> >>>> I doubt it. >>>> >>>> We still produce oil in this country, and while most of the petrol >>>> we use here is imported we only do so because it's cheaper than >>>> making our own. We could start our own production up and make our >>>> own fuel here if the need arose. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> **The pitifully small amount of oil we produce will go straight to >>> emergency services and defence. Consumers will not get a single drop. >>> >>> OTOH: We can produce plenty of electricity. We can't produce enough >>> oil for our needs. >>> >> Australia is a very big place to blockade. > > **Indeed and China has (or soon will have) the capacity, the will and > the desire to do so. Australia needs to be totally self-sufficient in > energy production as soon as possible. Oil is our biggest problem and we > need to find alternative energy sources very quickly. Make no mistake: > China will neutralise Australia as soon as they think they need to. > Cutting off our oil is a very quick and easy way to fuck us. Oil tankers > move slowly and Chinese aircraft are much faster. > You are missing one thing, trade goes 2 ways and China desperately needs our coal and other minerals such as lithium and iron ore, if they were to block our fuel imports then they wouldn't be getting any of our exports so it would cause them more problems than it would cause us. Whilst it may cause us pain to not have fuel imports we will adapt but the Chinese would be screwing themselves so the chances of it happening are very very slim. -- Daryl
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a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2023-03-08 03:02 +0100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2023-03-08 13:40 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Noddy <me@home.com> - 2023-03-08 15:22 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2023-03-08 16:00 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2023-03-08 17:47 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2023-03-09 07:50 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Noddy <me@home.com> - 2023-03-09 08:11 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2023-03-09 08:14 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2023-03-09 07:21 +1000
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2023-03-09 08:41 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Noddy <me@home.com> - 2023-03-09 09:37 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2023-03-09 09:43 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Noddy <me@home.com> - 2023-03-09 12:17 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2023-03-09 14:20 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Noddy <me@home.com> - 2023-03-09 15:48 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2023-03-09 23:30 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2023-03-09 10:56 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2023-03-09 11:18 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Noddy <me@home.com> - 2023-03-09 12:40 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2023-03-09 13:30 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Noddy <me@home.com> - 2023-03-09 15:02 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2023-03-09 17:01 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Noddy <me@home.com> - 2023-03-09 09:34 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Noddy <me@home.com> - 2023-03-09 09:33 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2023-03-09 09:47 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Noddy <me@home.com> - 2023-03-09 12:01 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2023-03-09 14:07 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Noddy <me@home.com> - 2023-03-09 15:59 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2023-03-09 16:27 +1000
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Noddy <me@home.com> - 2023-03-09 20:19 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2023-03-09 22:59 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Noddy <me@home.com> - 2023-03-10 12:42 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2023-03-10 13:53 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Noddy <me@home.com> - 2023-03-10 14:32 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2023-03-09 10:48 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire alvey <Patty.O.Furniture@Coast.org> - 2023-03-08 23:58 +0000
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2023-03-09 12:46 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2023-03-08 16:08 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2023-03-08 19:40 +1000
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2023-03-09 09:02 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2023-03-09 11:08 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2023-03-09 11:23 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2023-03-09 12:15 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2023-03-09 13:58 +1100
Re: a Tesla is a death-trap in a California wildfire Noddy <me@home.com> - 2023-03-09 12:18 +1100
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