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  Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2026-06-28 11:33 +0200
    Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 08:33 +1000
      Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 08:44 +1000
        Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 09:22 +1000
          Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 09:47 +1000
            Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 10:30 +1000
              Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 10:40 +1000
                Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 12:03 +1000
                  Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 14:29 +1000
                    Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 15:01 +1000
                      Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 17:33 +1000
                        Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-06-30 08:00 +1000
                          Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz> - 2026-06-30 00:21 +0200
                            Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-06-30 10:46 +1000
                              Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz> - 2026-06-30 03:01 +0200
                                Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-30 19:36 +1000
                                  Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-07-01 07:49 +1000
                                    Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-07-01 08:58 +1000
                                    Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz> - 2026-07-01 01:13 +0200
                                      Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-07-01 09:33 +1000
                                        Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-07-01 10:49 +1000
                                        Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz> - 2026-07-02 01:05 +0200
                                          Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-07-02 09:58 +1000
                                            Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-07-02 10:48 +1000
                                            Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz> - 2026-07-02 03:09 +0200
                                              Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-07-02 21:55 +1000
                                                Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-07-02 22:12 +1000
                                                  Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-07-02 22:27 +1000
                                                    Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-07-03 02:29 +1000
                                                  Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-07-03 02:24 +1000
                                                Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-07-03 02:17 +1000
                                          Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-07-02 20:25 +1000
                                            Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-07-02 21:55 +1000
                                              Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz> - 2026-07-03 02:02 +0200
                                            Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz> - 2026-07-03 01:49 +0200
                  Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Oped <oped@usenet.example> - 2026-06-30 13:07 +1000
                    Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-06-30 16:29 +1000
                      Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz> - 2026-07-01 01:20 +0200
                        Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-07-01 09:40 +1000
                          Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-07-01 10:57 +1000
                          Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-07-01 19:49 +1000
                            Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-07-01 21:23 +1000
      Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2026-06-29 11:07 +1000
        Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 14:11 +1000
          Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2026-07-01 09:18 +1000
            Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-07-01 10:28 +1000

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#19267

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz> wrote

>>> One Nation isn’t ready for government.

>> One Nation isn't fit to govern any decent human beings anywhere on this
>> planet of ours.

> Coming from a Stalinist that's rich.
> Feeding his regime by murdering 8 million of his citizens sounds very
> much like what Albanese is doing.

Then you need a new hearing aid or your first hearing aid

Albo hasn't murdered anyone

> Doing the 1987 Keating thing to takeaway asset value of peoples
> houses,

Albo has done nothing of the sort

> to house and home his mass immigration of dole receiving Isis
> terrorists is more important.

There has been no mass immigration of dole receiving Isis terrorists

> To have Australia a Monoculture of course makes sense.

Not even possible and never has been given the abos

> Everything Paul Keating Labor did in 1987 is near being repeated by
> Albanese Labor in 2026!

More mindless bullshit, as always from you

Hawke was the PM in 1987 and Albo isn't doing the
income tax rate changes that happened then, or
changing the handouts to familys that they did then

> The rest of this repeated disaster is now happening again?

There was no disaster then

> Labor under Paul Keating in 1987,

Keating was never the labor 'leader' then

> properties crashing, bank interest   rates hitting 20%.

That came later

> rentals became scarce and rents sky rocket,

More mindless bullshit

> little   new construction!

More mindless bullshit

> House prices fall in four capital cities as Sydney values drop nearly
> $50,000 in June this year.

Which is sweet fuck all in the $1M value of
most houses and $500K of most unit prices

> Now, of course, you’re hearing from the major parties and apologists
> for mainstream politics that One Nation isn’t ready for government.

Of course it isn't. She hasn't proposed a damned thing
that will do anything about what she howls about

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#19271

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> Ördög
>> Petz
>>> One Nation isn’t ready for government.
>>
>> One Nation isn't fit to govern any decent human beings anywhere on this
>> planet of ours.
>>
> Coming from a Stalinist that's rich.

Given the countless number of times I have spoken up against Stalinism 
in this very newsgroup your wilful lack of comprehension is now proven 
with absolute certainty.

But hey, everyone here immediately recognises this as your frustrated 
attempt at changing the subject of debate which your are currently 
losing quite badly! Yes, this is despite yet another attack dump against 
what you allege communism is in your illiterate confused mind as some 
sort of debate winning knock-out punch against me.

Alas this old, tried and failed tactic of yours ain't working no more!
            :-P    :-P    :-P    :-P

Nor is your fully fascist theocratic monoculture in OZ anywhere near 
becoming a reality given the will of the majority of voters, despite all 
your alcohol drenched wet dreams about it.

> To have Australia a Monoculture of course makes sense.

YAWN!
Back to your GoonBags, Petz dear!

> Everything Paul Keating Labor did in 1987 is near being repeated by
> Albanese Labor in 2026!

Bullshit!
> 
> The rest of this repeated disaster is now happening again?
> Labor under Paul Keating in 1987, properties crashing, bank interest
> rates hitting 20%. rentals became scarce and rents sky rocket, little
> new construction!

Bullshit!

> 
> House prices fall in four capital cities as Sydney values drop nearly
> $50,000 in June this year.

Bullshit!

> 
> Now, of course, you’re hearing from the major parties and apologists
> for mainstream politics that One Nation isn’t ready for government.

All sane human beings reject the idea of a fish&chips aunty led 
nightmare government.

Suck it up Petz dear!
Look at the upside: No one would give a damn if you permanently fucked 
off from OZ to a fascist theocracy loving alt-right dystopia of you own 
choosing.  Bye-bye!

            :-P    :-P    :-P    :-P    :-P

-- 
Ördög
Your relentless newsgroup devil at your service

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#19272

On Thu, 2 Jul 2026 01:05:24 +0200, The Newsgroup Devil
<Devil@Hell.biz> wrote:

>> Everything Paul Keating Labor did in 1987 is near being repeated by
>> Albanese Labor in 2026!
>
>Bullshit!
>> 
>> The rest of this repeated disaster is now happening again?
>> Labor under Paul Keating in 1987, properties crashing, bank interest
>> rates hitting 20%. rentals became scarce and rents sky rocket, little
>> new construction!
>
>Bullshit!
>
I know is that once markets get spooked, prices can fall like an
elevator. 

One's children can now say goodbye to the bank of mum and dad.

Our Australian commonwealth has survived numerous recessions, 
one major depression, and two world wars. 
Doubt if it will survive a Albanese Labor Government.


In the late 1980s (Hawke Labor), property was hammered by soaring
interest rates, recession, tight credit, rising rents, and weak new
construction.
spooked property market, 

Agents are saying sales slow
I asked
With Capital gains Tax removal are Agents are saying sales slow
https://share.google/aimode/OpCP4rz8pT0RStUr2
Yes, real estate agents and industry analysts are attributing slow
sales and crashing auction clearance rates to the government's
controversial tax reforms. 
The changes, which passed into law following the Federal Budget, have
caused buyer uncertainty, a severe drop in investor activity, and
plummeting property values.
The core issues agents are observing in the market:
The "Tax Ball and Chain": Real estate bodies note that ending the 50%
capital gains tax discount and restricting negative gearing on
established homes have significantly chilled market turnover.
Plummeting Clearances: 
Agents report that auction clearance rates in major cities have
dropped to historic lows (some nearing Global Financial Crisis levels)
as investors and buyers flee the market.
Price Drops: Analysts at Prop Track and Cotality have recorded drops
in home values—most notably in Sydney and Melbourne—partially driven
by this sudden shift in buyer sentiment.Industry Perspective and
Resources:
Mixed Opinions on Impact: 
While agents cite falling clearance rates and buyer panic, some
economists argue that the policy is designed to cool overheated
property cycles and boost opportunities for first-home buyers.
-- 
Now under the commie troll name
"The Newsgroup Devil"
Ördög the Armchair communist
https://youtu.be/I-aQkAzTJSs?si=nb1vHyJ7a6ImK0zt

As Red as a tomato and nutritious as strychnine
he is anti-system and anti-global capitalism.
That is why his No1 purpose in life is to fight
for mass immigration promoted by politicians 
and big business.
He attacks working class resistance with bricks and eggs
then go listen to a speech by the local MP about
how great diversity is.
He believes he is such a radical

Communists View the Church as a Huge, Huge Firewall 
Against What They Want to Do

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#19273

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz> wrote
>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote


>>> Everything Paul Keating Labor did in 1987 is near being repeated by
>>> Albanese Labor in 2026!

Bullshit with the 'recession we had to have'

>> Bullshit!
>
>>> The rest of this repeated disaster is now happening again?
>>> Labor under Paul Keating in 1987, properties crashing, bank interest
>>> rates hitting 20%. rentals became scarce and rents sky rocket, little
>>> new construction!

>> Bullshit!

> I know is that once markets get spooked,

That hasn't happened

> prices can fall like an   elevator.

That has never happened with property prices in Sydney or Melburg

> One's children can now say goodbye to the bank of mum and dad.

Even more mindless bullshit given that the bank of
mum and dad doesn't depend on property prices

> Our Australian commonwealth has survived numerous recessions,
> one major depression, and two world wars.

> Doubt if it will survive a Albanese Labor Government.

Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something

> In the late 1980s (Hawke Labor), property was hammered by soaring
> interest rates, recession, tight credit, rising rents, and weak new
> construction.
> spooked property market,

But didn't see property prices fall like an elevator.

> Agents are saying sales slow

That always happens when interest rates increase
and that was not done by the govt, that was done
by the reserve bank

> I asked
> With Capital gains Tax removal are Agents are saying sales slow
> https://share.google/aimode/OpCP4rz8pT0RStUr2
> Yes, real estate agents and industry analysts are attributing slow
> sales and crashing auction clearance rates to the government's
> controversial tax reforms.

And nothing those clowns ever say is reality

> The changes, which passed into law following the Federal Budget, have
> caused buyer uncertainty,

Hardly surpising given that quite a bit of the detail with
widows and trust detail still hasn't been fully spelt out

> a severe drop in investor activity,

Hardly surpising given that negative gearing is
no longer available on newly purchased property

> and   plummeting property values.

That hasn't happened. So much for your steaming turd of an AI

> The core issues agents are observing in the market:
> The "Tax Ball and Chain": Real estate bodies

Wota stunningly impeccible source

Those buggers are always trying to boost the market

> note that ending the 50%   capital gains tax discount

And replacing it with a stupidly complicated way of
calculating real capital gain, and imposing a 30%
tax rate even for those whose income is below the
rate at which they need to pay any income tax at all
and eliminating the averaging over a number of years

> and restricting negative gearing on   establishedhomes have  
> significantly chilled market turnover.

And so has the increased interest rates

> Plummeting Clearances:

There has been no plummeting, again, your stupid AI

> Agents report that auction clearance rates in major cities have
> dropped to historic lows (some nearing Global Financial Crisis levels)
> as investors and buyers flee the market.

Even sillier on the buyers claim

> Price Drops: Analysts at Prop Track and Cotality have recorded drops
> in home values—most notably in Sydney and Melbourne—

By sweet fuck all

> partially driven
> by this sudden shift in buyer sentiment.Industry Perspective and
> Resources:

> Mixed Opinions on Impact:
> While agents cite falling clearance rates and buyer panic, some
> economists argue that the policy is designed to cool overheated
> property cycles and boost opportunities for first-home buyers.

And that is clearly what has happened

And you fucked AI doesn't even mention interest rates

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#19274

# /This is a reply to pre-filtered & auto edited post/
# /All quoted inputs by kill-file residents have been expunged/

> Ördög
> 
>>> Everything Paul Keating Labor did in 1987 is near being repeated by
>>> Albanese Labor in 2026!
>>
>> Bullshit!
>>>
>>> The rest of this repeated disaster is now happening again?
>>> Labor under Paul Keating in 1987, properties crashing, bank interest
>>> rates hitting 20%. rentals became scarce and rents sky rocket, little
>>> new construction!
>>
>> Bullshit!
>>
> I know is that once markets get spooked, prices can fall like an
> elevator.

Zero, zilch, nort, nada! This is exactly what your economic and 
political predictions are worth, Petz dear!

Having said that, it is now becoming a certainty that those usual 
high-fling speculators, grifters and scammers, all those profits 
hoarding financial ghouls who so far looked upon the property markets 
their easy-peasy cash cow now suddenly realising that their good times 
may be over thanks to Labor finally putting an stop to their gravy-train 
run.

But naturally, before they are leaving for other hunting grounds they 
attempt to put on a last ditch nasty scare campaign in hope of delaying 
the inevitable.

> One's children can now say goodbye to the bank of mum and dad.

?????
Do you mean they are somehow stopped to inherit anything? By who?

Hey Petz, my wife and I have made sure that ain't going to be the case 
for my kids. They will get everything we own! So there you go... :-P

> Our Australian commonwealth has survived numerous recessions,
> one major depression, and two world wars.

In fact, it will definitely survive the fish&chips auntie generated 
shitstorm, just as it will survive all your inebriated alt-right 
theocracy monoculture tantrums in cyberspace.

And your point was, in case you thought to have one???

> Doubt if it will survive a Albanese Labor Government.

Bullshit.
In fact, if Albo would grow a little bit more spine and implemented even 
more measures to stop the country's wealth being all sucked up by the 
corporate upperclass Labor could make future generations' lives so much 
easier!

/bucket loads of Petz-Bullshit was flushed as a generous free service 
provided by your diligent newsgroup devil to all sane Usenetizens 
visiting this newsgroup/

-- 
Ördög
Your overworked newsgroup devil at your service

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#19279

On 2/07/2026 11:09 am, The Newsgroup Devil wrote:
> # /This is a reply to pre-filtered & auto edited post/
> # /All quoted inputs by kill-file residents have been expunged/
> 
>> Ördög
>>
>>>> Everything Paul Keating Labor did in 1987 is near being repeated by
>>>> Albanese Labor in 2026!

I suppose Paul WAS Treasurer .... so might have had some impact on the 
markets.

>>> Bullshit!
>>>>
>>>> The rest of this repeated disaster is now happening again?
>>>> Labor under Paul Keating in 1987, properties crashing, bank interest
>>>> rates hitting 20%. rentals became scarce and rents sky rocket, little
>>>> new construction!
>>>
>>> Bullshit!
>>>
>> I know is that once markets get spooked, prices can fall like an
>> elevator.
> 
> Zero, zilch, nort, nada! This is exactly what your economic and 
> political predictions are worth, Petz dear!
> 
> Having said that, it is now becoming a certainty that those usual 
> high-fling speculators, grifters and scammers, all those profits 
> hoarding financial ghouls who so far looked upon the property markets 
> their easy-peasy cash cow now suddenly realising that their good times 
> may be over thanks to Labor finally putting an stop to their gravy-train 
> run.
> 
> But naturally, before they are leaving for other hunting grounds they 
> attempt to put on a last ditch nasty scare campaign in hope of delaying 
> the inevitable.
> 
>> One's children can now say goodbye to the bank of mum and dad.
> 
> ?????
> Do you mean they are somehow stopped to inherit anything? By who?

No, I'm thing Petzl means that the price on Mum and Dad's House (i.e. 
the Family Home) has fallen sooooo much that Mum and Dad will not be 
able to back the Kids when they want to buy property.

A reasonable thought. Hmmm! Did I just type that??
-- 
Daniel70

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#19281

On Thu, 2 Jul 2026 21:55:12 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

>>> I know is that once markets get spooked, prices can fall like an
>>> elevator.
>> 
>> Zero, zilch, nort, nada! This is exactly what your economic and 
>> political predictions are worth, Petz dear!
>> 
>> Having said that, it is now becoming a certainty that those usual 
>> high-fling speculators, grifters and scammers, all those profits 
>> hoarding financial ghouls who so far looked upon the property markets 
>> their easy-peasy cash cow now suddenly realising that their good times 
>> may be over thanks to Labor finally putting an stop to their gravy-train 
>> run.
>> 
>> But naturally, before they are leaving for other hunting grounds they 
>> attempt to put on a last ditch nasty scare campaign in hope of delaying 
>> the inevitable.
>> 
>>> One's children can now say goodbye to the bank of mum and dad.
>> 
>> ?????
>> Do you mean they are somehow stopped to inherit anything? By who?
>
>No, I'm thinking Petzl means that the price on Mum and Dad's House (i.e. 
>the Family Home) has fallen sooooo much that Mum and Dad will not be 
>able to back the Kids when they want to buy property.
>
>A reasonable thought. Hmmm! Did I just type that??
>-- 
>Daniel70
>
Being retired my money is in savings 
As soon as the Interest rates go above 10% like they did with
treasurer Keating, will be judging when to sink my funds in to 10 year
bank term interest.

All I know is that once markets get spooked, prices can fall like an
elevator. 
In the late 1980s (Hawke Labor), property was hammered by soaring
interest rates, recession, tight credit, rising rents, and weak new
construction.

This Alabanese repeat og Keating only started last month!
<https://www.skynews.com.au/business/finance/housing-market-slump-driven-by-labors-capital-gains-tax-negative-gearing-changes-could-slow-down-total-economy/news-story/e09a69d40ca6d1367b0d78d391c36867>
        https://tinyurl.com/bdezawuj  
Housing market slump driven by Labor’s capital gains tax, negative
gearing changes could 'slow down' total economy
Macquarie bank analyst Victor German estimated that new lending flows
for owner occupiers are down between 10 to 20 per cent, while new
investors are down as much as 50 per cent.
-- 
Petzl

Our Australian commonwealth has survived numerous recessions, one
major depression, and two world wars. 
Doubt if it will survive under a Albanese Labor Government.

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#19282

On 2/07/2026 10:12 pm, Petzl wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Jul 2026 21:55:12 +1000, Daniel70
> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> 
>>>> I know is that once markets get spooked, prices can fall like an
>>>> elevator.
>>>
>>> Zero, zilch, nort, nada! This is exactly what your economic and
>>> political predictions are worth, Petz dear!
>>>
>>> Having said that, it is now becoming a certainty that those usual
>>> high-fling speculators, grifters and scammers, all those profits
>>> hoarding financial ghouls who so far looked upon the property markets
>>> their easy-peasy cash cow now suddenly realising that their good times
>>> may be over thanks to Labor finally putting an stop to their gravy-train
>>> run.
>>>
>>> But naturally, before they are leaving for other hunting grounds they
>>> attempt to put on a last ditch nasty scare campaign in hope of delaying
>>> the inevitable.
>>>
>>>> One's children can now say goodbye to the bank of mum and dad.
>>>
>>> ?????
>>> Do you mean they are somehow stopped to inherit anything? By who?
>>
>> No, I'm thinking Petzl means that the price on Mum and Dad's House (i.e.
>> the Family Home) has fallen sooooo much that Mum and Dad will not be
>> able to back the Kids when they want to buy property.
>>
>> A reasonable thought. Hmmm! Did I just type that??
>>
> Being retired my money is in savings

Own my own Home, Car, etc.

One week I get about $800 CommSuper per fortnight, the alternate week I 
get about $800 Old Age Pension per fortnight.

So what I had accumulated in *MY* Super over the years (about $150,000) 
has become MY Monopoly Money .... well, after I had loaned about $50,000 
(total) to Relatives. I'm using it to *PLAY* on the Stock Market myself 
.... making about $35,000 over the past three years or so.

> As soon as the Interest rates go above 10% like they did with
> treasurer Keating, will be judging when to sink my funds in to 10 year
> bank term interest.

... and I'll be making MORE money myself, too.

> All I know is that once markets get spooked, prices can fall like an
> elevator.

Who cares?? It's Monopoly Money.

> In the late 1980s (Hawke Labor), property was hammered by soaring
> interest rates, recession, tight credit, rising rents, and weak new
> construction.

Who cares??

> This Alabanese repeat og Keating only started last month!
> <https://www.skynews.com.au/business/finance/housing-market-slump-driven-by-labors-capital-gains-tax-negative-gearing-changes-could-slow-down-total-economy/news-story/e09a69d40ca6d1367b0d78d391c36867>
>          https://tinyurl.com/bdezawuj
> Housing market slump driven by Labor’s capital gains tax, negative
> gearing changes could 'slow down' total economy

Who cares??

> Macquarie bank analyst Victor German estimated that new lending flows
> for owner occupiers are down between 10 to 20 per cent, while new
> investors are down as much as 50 per cent.
> 
Who cares??
-- 
Daniel70

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#19286

Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote
> Petzl wrote
>> Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote

>>>>> I know is that once markets get spooked, prices can fall like an
>>>>> elevator.

>>>> Zero, zilch, nort, nada! This is exactly what your economic and
>>>> political predictions are worth, Petz dear!

>>>> Having said that, it is now becoming a certainty that those usual
>>>> high-fling speculators, grifters and scammers, all those profits
>>>> hoarding financial ghouls who so far looked upon the property markets
>>>> their easy-peasy cash cow now suddenly realising that their good times
>>>> may be over thanks to Labor finally putting an stop to their  
>>>> gravy-train   run.

>>>> But naturally, before they are leaving for other hunting grounds they
>>>> attempt to put on a last ditch nasty scare campaign in hope of  
>>>> delaying   the inevitable.

>>>>> One's children can now say goodbye to the bank of mum and dad.

>>>> ?????
>>>> Do you mean they are somehow stopped to inherit anything? By who?

>>> No, I'm thinking Petzl means that the price on Mum and Dad's House  
>>> (i.e.
>>> the Family Home) has fallen sooooo much that Mum and Dad will not be
>>> able to back the Kids when they want to buy property.

>>> A reasonable thought. Hmmm! Did I just type that??

>> Being retired my money is in savings

> Own my own Home, Car, etc.

Me too, don't owe anyone anything

> One week I get about $800 CommSuper per fortnight,

I don't have a super pension, I just leave it in there

> the alternate week I   get about $800 Old Age Pension per fortnight.

I haven't bothered to do the paperwork and
have been able to do that for 15 fucking years

> So what I had accumulated in *MY* Super over the years (about $150,000)  
> has become MY Monopoly Money .... well, after I had loaned about $50,000  
> (total) to Relatives. I'm using it to *PLAY* on the Stock Market myself  
> .... making about $35,000 over the past three years or so.

Yeah. I still have plenty in the stock market

>> As soon as the Interest rates go above 10% like they did with
>> treasurer Keating, will be judging when to sink my funds in to 10 year
>> bank term interest.

> ... and I'll be making MORE money myself, too.

>> All I know is that once markets get spooked, prices can fall like an
>> elevator.

> Who cares?? It's Monopoly Money.

>> In the late 1980s (Hawke Labor), property was hammered by soaring
>> interest rates, recession, tight credit, rising rents, and weak new
>> construction.

> Who cares??

>> This Alabanese repeat og Keating only started last month!
>> <https://www.skynews.com.au/business/finance/housing-market-slump-driven-by-labors-capital-gains-tax-negative-gearing-changes-could-slow-down-total-economy/news-story/e09a69d40ca6d1367b0d78d391c36867>
>>          https://tinyurl.com/bdezawuj
>> Housing market slump driven by Labor’s capital gains tax, negative
>> gearing changes could 'slow down' total economy

> Who cares??

>> Macquarie bank analyst Victor German estimated that new lending flows
>> for owner occupiers are down between 10 to 20 per cent, while new
>> investors are down as much as 50 per cent.

> Who cares??

Why are you such a careless person, boy ?

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#19285

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote

>>>> I know is that once markets get spooked, prices can fall like an
>>>> elevator.

>>> Zero, zilch, nort, nada! This is exactly what your economic and
>>> political predictions are worth, Petz dear!

>>> Having said that, it is now becoming a certainty that those usual
>>> high-fling speculators, grifters and scammers, all those profits
>>> hoarding financial ghouls who so far looked upon the property markets
>>> their easy-peasy cash cow now suddenly realising that their good times
>>> may be over thanks to Labor finally putting an stop to their  
>>> gravy-train   run.

>>> But naturally, before they are leaving for other hunting grounds they
>>> attempt to put on a last ditch nasty scare campaign in hope of delaying
>>> the inevitable.

>>>> One's children can now say goodbye to the bank of mum and dad.

>>> ?????
>>> Do you mean they are somehow stopped to inherit anything? By who?

>> No, I'm thinking Petzl means that the price on Mum and Dad's House (i.e.
>> the Family Home) has fallen sooooo much that Mum and Dad will not be
>> able to back the Kids when they want to buy property.

>> A reasonable thought. Hmmm! Did I just type that??

> Being retired my money is in savings

Most of mine is in investments and super

> As soon as the Interest rates go above 10%

Not going to happen

> like they did with
> treasurer Keating, will be judging when to sink my funds in to 10 year
> bank term interest.

> All I know is that once markets get spooked, prices can fall like an
> elevator.

That has never happened with property prices in out lifetimes

> In the late 1980s (Hawke Labor), property was hammered by soaring
> interest rates, recession, tight credit, rising rents, and weak new
> construction.

> This Alabanese repeat og Keating only started last month!

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken fantasys

> <https://www.skynews.com.au/business/finance/housing-market-slump-driven-by-labors-capital-gains-tax-negative-gearing-changes-could-slow-down-total-economy/news-story/e09a69d40ca6d1367b0d78d391c36867>
>         https://tinyurl.com/bdezawuj
> Housing market slump driven by Labor’s capital gains tax, negative
> gearing changes could 'slow down' total economy

That is nothing even remotely like fall like an elevator.

And that fool doesn't even mention interest rates

> Macquarie bank analyst Victor German estimated that new lending flows
> for owner occupiers are down between 10 to 20 per cent,

That is nothing even remotely like fall like an elevator.

> while new   investors are down as much as 50 per cent.

Which isn't PROPERTY PRICES, fuckwit

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#19284

On Thu, 02 Jul 2026 21:55:12 +1000, Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org>  
wrote:

> On 2/07/2026 11:09 am, The Newsgroup Devil wrote:
>> # /This is a reply to pre-filtered & auto edited post/
>> # /All quoted inputs by kill-file residents have been expunged/
>>
>>> Ördög
>>>
>>>>> Everything Paul Keating Labor did in 1987 is near being repeated by
>>>>> Albanese Labor in 2026!
>
> I suppose Paul WAS Treasurer .... so might have had some impact on the  
> markets.
>
>>>> Bullshit!
>>>>>
>>>>> The rest of this repeated disaster is now happening again?
>>>>> Labor under Paul Keating in 1987, properties crashing, bank interest
>>>>> rates hitting 20%. rentals became scarce and rents sky rocket, little
>>>>> new construction!
>>>>
>>>> Bullshit!
>>>>
>>> I know is that once markets get spooked, prices can fall like an
>>> elevator.
>>  Zero, zilch, nort, nada! This is exactly what your economic and  
>> political predictions are worth, Petz dear!
>>  Having said that, it is now becoming a certainty that those usual  
>> high-fling speculators, grifters and scammers, all those profits  
>> hoarding financial ghouls who so far looked upon the property markets  
>> their easy-peasy cash cow now suddenly realising that their good times  
>> may be over thanks to Labor finally putting an stop to their  
>> gravy-train run.
>>  But naturally, before they are leaving for other hunting grounds they  
>> attempt to put on a last ditch nasty scare campaign in hope of delaying  
>> the inevitable.
>>
>>> One's children can now say goodbye to the bank of mum and dad.
>>  ?????
>> Do you mean they are somehow stopped to inherit anything? By who?
>
> No, I'm thing Petzl means that the price on Mum and Dad's House (i.e.  
> the Family Home) has fallen sooooo much that Mum and Dad will not be  
> able to back the Kids when they want to buy property.

House prices haven't dropped much and won't

> A reasonable thought. Hmmm! Did I just type that??

Nope, that was the wacky weed talking, boy :(

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#19278

On 2/07/2026 9:05 am, The Newsgroup Devil wrote:
> # /This is a reply to pre-filtered & auto edited post/
> # /All quoted inputs by kill-file residents have been expunged/
> 
> 
>> Ördög
>>> Petz
>>>> One Nation isn’t ready for government.
>>>
>>> One Nation isn't fit to govern any decent human beings anywhere on this
>>> planet of ours.
>>>
>> Coming from a Stalinist that's rich.
> 
> Given the countless number of times I have spoken up against Stalinism 
> in this very newsgroup your wilful lack of comprehension is now proven 
> with absolute certainty.
> 
> But hey, everyone here immediately recognises this as your frustrated 
> attempt at changing the subject of debate which your are currently 
> losing quite badly! Yes, this is despite yet another attack dump against 
> what you allege communism is in your illiterate confused mind as some 
> sort of debate winning knock-out punch against me.
> 
> Alas this old, tried and failed tactic of yours ain't working no more!
>             :-P    :-P    :-P    :-P
> 
> Nor is your fully fascist theocratic monoculture in OZ anywhere near 
> becoming a reality given the will of the majority of voters, despite all 
> your alcohol drenched wet dreams about it.
> 
>> To have Australia a Monoculture of course makes sense.
> 
> YAWN!
> Back to your GoonBags, Petz dear!

No, we should ALL be AUSTRALIANS, first and foremost.

Doesn't matter if our ancestors came out here 20,000 years ago, 200 
years ago or 20 months ago.

'We or our ancestors' came here for a better life so 'we' should be 
trying to make this life HERE as *GOOD* as it can possibly be! (and 
forgot about what is now happening 'over there'!!
-- 
Daniel70

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#19280

On Thu, 2 Jul 2026 20:25:11 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

>> 
>> YAWN!
>> Back to your GoonBags, Petz dear!
>
>No, we should ALL be AUSTRALIANS, first and foremost.
>
>Doesn't matter if our ancestors came out here 20,000 years ago, 200 
>years ago or 20 months ago.
>
>'We or our ancestors' came here for a better life so 'we' should be 
>trying to make this life HERE as *GOOD* as it can possibly be! (and 
>forgot about what is now happening 'over there'!!
>-- 
>Daniel70
>
Now we are being censored from being a Monoculture?
Seems only OK to watch n TV in the US?
Too violent for me!
https://x.com/RightSide_Uk/status/2071110967476285442/video/1
  Citizen.Vigilante.2026
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/citizen_vigilante
 94-95% audience score on Rotten Tomatoes.
Highest score of 2026.
-- 
Petzl

“The Australian dream is hard but it’s obtainable and you have to do
the work. 
You have to roll your sleeves up and sacrifice.” 
But with socialism “it’s ‘why do I have to do that when I can just
take it from them?’

There’s this illusion that quality of life is more important than work
ethic. 

‘I want it now’ and one group’s telling them ‘You don’t have to be
educated, all you have to do is blame everything on somebody else and
they’ll support you.’ 

It’s ‘Why should I work when you’re saying I don’t  have to!’ 
There are more people willing to take a free lunch than go out and
build the sandwich.

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#19290

# /This is a reply to pre-filtered & auto edited post/
# /All quoted inputs by kill-file residents have been expunged/

> Daniel70
>> Ördög
>>> YAWN!
>>> Back to your GoonBags, Petz dear!
>>
>> No, we should ALL be AUSTRALIANS, first and foremost.
>>
>> Doesn't matter if our ancestors came out here 20,000 years ago, 200
>> years ago or 20 months ago.
>>
>> 'We or our ancestors' came here for a better life so 'we' should be
>> trying to make this life HERE as *GOOD* as it can possibly be! (and
>> forgot about what is now happening 'over there'!!
>>
> Now we are being censored from being a Monoculture?

Petz, how many times do you have to be told that Australia is not now 
nor ever have been a "monoculture". Stop cramming your head with Xtian 
fundy racist propaganda nonsense.

BTW who the fuck do you think is censoring anything???
Pointing out that something is a ridiculous nonsense is NOT censorship!

But we definitely know what would happens if your fascist ilk ever came 
to power: Your alt-right fun would begin with book burnings galore, 
eh??? First the books then the people!

> Seems only OK to watch n TV in the US?

Only full idiots would do that!

> Too violent for me!

I thought you loved the violence of killing of atheists, Muslims, 
socialists and communists galore, Petz dear!

:-P    :-P    :-P    :-P

-- 
Ördög
Your diligent newsgroup devil at your service

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#19289

Daniel70 wrote:
> On 2/07/2026 9:05 am, The Newsgroup Devil wrote:
>> # /This is a reply to pre-filtered & auto edited post/
>> # /All quoted inputs by kill-file residents have been expunged/
>>
>>
>>> Ördög
>>>> Petz
>>>>> One Nation isn’t ready for government.
>>>>
>>>> One Nation isn't fit to govern any decent human beings anywhere on this
>>>> planet of ours.
>>>>
>>> Coming from a Stalinist that's rich.
>>
>> Given the countless number of times I have spoken up against Stalinism 
>> in this very newsgroup your wilful lack of comprehension is now proven 
>> with absolute certainty.
>>
>> But hey, everyone here immediately recognises this as your frustrated 
>> attempt at changing the subject of debate which your are currently 
>> losing quite badly! Yes, this is despite yet another attack dump 
>> against what you allege communism is in your illiterate confused mind 
>> as some sort of debate winning knock-out punch against me.
>>
>> Alas this old, tried and failed tactic of yours ain't working no more!
>>             :-P    :-P    :-P    :-P
>>
>> Nor is your fully fascist theocratic monoculture in OZ anywhere near 
>> becoming a reality given the will of the majority of voters, despite 
>> all your alcohol drenched wet dreams about it.
>>
>>> To have Australia a Monoculture of course makes sense.
>>
>> YAWN!
>> Back to your GoonBags, Petz dear!
> 
> No, we should ALL be AUSTRALIANS, first and foremost.

We already are!

This is some sort of from seppo land imported nonsense to OZ
emphasising where people came from.

Afro-American, Italian-American, Latino-American,Asian-American, 
etc...etc...etc.
That is not a good recipe for creating good social cohesion. Just look 
at the mess septics find themselves in currently.

So let us not make that same mistake here.

> 
> Doesn't matter if our ancestors came out here 20,000 years ago, 200 
> years ago or 20 months ago.
> 

We all live in OZ, so of course, we have to find a way to work together
towards maintaining a society that provides the basic creature comfort 
to everyone living here regardless of skin melanin content, of 
religious/non-religious affiliations and of differing ancestral cultural 
heritage.

That concept is what functioning social cohesion means, not any sort of 
forced monoculture that has different meaning for each power hungry 
loudly screaming extremist group.

Alas:
Social Cohesion  and  "Monoculture" (™ White Xtian Nationalists) are two 
different cattle of fish.

That is the baseline! But of course, we as occupants of this continent 
should always remember that we are still all members of the human race 
and understand the need for making the whole world a place fit for 
dignified human existence for everyone.

 > 'We or our ancestors' came here for a better life so 'we' should be
 > trying to make this life HERE as *GOOD* as it can possibly be! (and
 > forgot about what is now happening 'over there'!!

That is already the case for almost all migrants, otherwise why would 
they have gone through all the hardship getting here. It is sadly a 
popular pastime for some to spout nonsense calling immigration to 
Australia a child's play.
It takes a lot of effort getting through mountains of bureaucratic 
hurdles, taking on a significant financial burden paying fees, 
dissolving existing household, settling all outstanding obligations, 
packing up your belongings, leaving friends and family behind and moving 
into the uncertainties of having to start over everything from scratch 
at your destination.
I have done that a number of times during my life and can tell you that 
this sort of thing takes its a nasty toll on one both physically and 
mentally.

And just imagine how much worse this can be for those who are fleeing 
from a warzone, escaping persecution and/or outright genocide!

That is exactly why I simply can't stand hearing all the uninformed 
rubbish some idiots spew about immigration and immigrants.
They clearly have not experienced it themselves.

So in summary: fuck all who are selling this hate and racism inspired 
"monoculture" rhetoric!
They don't belong here! In fact, they don't even belong to the human 
race any more.
Hey Elon, fly them all to Mars (sorry little green Martians, hell on 
Mars is about to become a reality)!

-- 
Ördög
Your relentless newsgroup devil at your service

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#19254

On 29/6/26 12:03, Petzl wrote:


>>
> As far as I know it was only on the National Press Conference
> https://youtu.be/kSYatJcVELU?si=rRfE1QY-HgJ8x3RD
>    Pauline Hanson Monoculture
> 

The speech is quite interesting and well worth viewing.

In particular at the beginning she quotes some very interesting figures 
on not only immigration, but poverty in Australia.

This is alone might explain and her rise in political significance.

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#19255

On Tue, 30 Jun 2026 13:07:58 +1000, Oped <oped@usenet.example> wrote:

>On 29/6/26 12:03, Petzl wrote:
>
>
>>>
>> As far as I know it was only on the National Press Conference
>> https://youtu.be/kSYatJcVELU?si=rRfE1QY-HgJ8x3RD
>>    Pauline Hanson Monoculture
>> 
>
>The speech is quite interesting and well worth viewing.
>
>In particular at the beginning she quotes some very interesting figures 
>on not only immigration, but poverty in Australia.
>
>This is alone might explain and her rise in political significance.
>
Trouble truth is not what the lobbyist run media are printing.
Just realigning excerpts in ways to malign her
--
Petzl
"Our" Media and Major parties are run by lobbyists

Lobbyists write the laws, parliament sells the laws,
paid lucrative commissions for passing their laws.
That’s the modern legislative business of parliament.
When we talk about paying-off politicians in third-world
countries we call it bribery.
However, when we undertake the same process in parliament.
we call it lobbying.

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#19263

# /This is a reply to pre-filtered & auto edited post/
# /All quoted inputs by kill-file residents have been expunged/


> Trouble truth is not what the lobbyist run media are printing.

Bzzzzt!  Lobbyists do not run the media!

GoonCon 4 again?

> Just realigning excerpts in ways to malign her

Keep on worshipping the fish&chips auntie till the cows come home, Petz 
dear!

-- 
Ördög
Your forever vigilant newsgroup devil at your service

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#19265

On Wed, 1 Jul 2026 01:20:36 +0200, The Newsgroup Devil
<Devil@Hell.biz> wrote:

># /This is a reply to pre-filtered & auto edited post/
># /All quoted inputs by kill-file residents have been expunged/
>
>
>> Trouble truth is not what the lobbyist run media are printing.
>
>Bzzzzt!  Lobbyists do not run the media!
>
>GoonCon 4 again?
>
>> Just realigning excerpts in ways to malign her
>
>Keep on worshipping the fish&chips auntie till the cows come home, Petz 
>dear!
>
The Penrith area is about to become a flood zone again already you
property is down $100,000 and dropping, better start looking for a
bridge to live under.
You will be voting for the  fish&chips auntie there's become no
choice.
--
Petzl
"Our" Media and Major parties are run, 
owned and operated by lobbyists.

Lobbyists write the laws, parliament sells the laws,
paid lucrative commissions for passing their laws.
That’s the modern legislative business of parliament.

When we talk about paying-off politicians in third-world
countries we call it bribery.
However, when we undertake the same process in parliament.
we call it lobbying.

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#19268

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz> wrote
>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

>>> Trouble truth is not what the lobbyist run media are printing.

>> Bzzzzt!  Lobbyists do not run the media!

He's right, for once

>> GoonCon 4 again?

>>> Just realigning excerpts in ways to malign her

>> Keep on worshipping the fish&chips auntie till the cows come home, Petz
>> dear!

> The Penrith area is about to become a flood zone again

Bullshit

> already you   property is down $100,000 and dropping,

Bullshit
https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5_ae1983ed-31df-447b-88d7-5b5d88eaf615

> better start looking for a   bridge to live under.

No need to do that even if the property value does drop and it isnt doing  
that

> You will be voting for the  fish&chips auntie there's become no
> choice.

She won't be the candidate in his seat, fool

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