Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant

From	"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	aus.politics, aus.general
Subject	Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant
Date	2026-07-02 10:48 +1000
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Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz> wrote
>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote


>>> Everything Paul Keating Labor did in 1987 is near being repeated by
>>> Albanese Labor in 2026!

Bullshit with the 'recession we had to have'

>> Bullshit!
>
>>> The rest of this repeated disaster is now happening again?
>>> Labor under Paul Keating in 1987, properties crashing, bank interest
>>> rates hitting 20%. rentals became scarce and rents sky rocket, little
>>> new construction!

>> Bullshit!

> I know is that once markets get spooked,

That hasn't happened

> prices can fall like an   elevator.

That has never happened with property prices in Sydney or Melburg

> One's children can now say goodbye to the bank of mum and dad.

Even more mindless bullshit given that the bank of
mum and dad doesn't depend on property prices

> Our Australian commonwealth has survived numerous recessions,
> one major depression, and two world wars.

> Doubt if it will survive a Albanese Labor Government.

Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something

> In the late 1980s (Hawke Labor), property was hammered by soaring
> interest rates, recession, tight credit, rising rents, and weak new
> construction.
> spooked property market,

But didn't see property prices fall like an elevator.

> Agents are saying sales slow

That always happens when interest rates increase
and that was not done by the govt, that was done
by the reserve bank

> I asked
> With Capital gains Tax removal are Agents are saying sales slow
> https://share.google/aimode/OpCP4rz8pT0RStUr2
> Yes, real estate agents and industry analysts are attributing slow
> sales and crashing auction clearance rates to the government's
> controversial tax reforms.

And nothing those clowns ever say is reality

> The changes, which passed into law following the Federal Budget, have
> caused buyer uncertainty,

Hardly surpising given that quite a bit of the detail with
widows and trust detail still hasn't been fully spelt out

> a severe drop in investor activity,

Hardly surpising given that negative gearing is
no longer available on newly purchased property

> and   plummeting property values.

That hasn't happened. So much for your steaming turd of an AI

> The core issues agents are observing in the market:
> The "Tax Ball and Chain": Real estate bodies

Wota stunningly impeccible source

Those buggers are always trying to boost the market

> note that ending the 50%   capital gains tax discount

And replacing it with a stupidly complicated way of
calculating real capital gain, and imposing a 30%
tax rate even for those whose income is below the
rate at which they need to pay any income tax at all
and eliminating the averaging over a number of years

> and restricting negative gearing on   establishedhomes have  
> significantly chilled market turnover.

And so has the increased interest rates

> Plummeting Clearances:

There has been no plummeting, again, your stupid AI

> Agents report that auction clearance rates in major cities have
> dropped to historic lows (some nearing Global Financial Crisis levels)
> as investors and buyers flee the market.

Even sillier on the buyers claim

> Price Drops: Analysts at Prop Track and Cotality have recorded drops
> in home values—most notably in Sydney and Melbourne—

By sweet fuck all

> partially driven
> by this sudden shift in buyer sentiment.Industry Perspective and
> Resources:

> Mixed Opinions on Impact:
> While agents cite falling clearance rates and buyer panic, some
> economists argue that the policy is designed to cool overheated
> property cycles and boost opportunities for first-home buyers.

And that is clearly what has happened

And you fucked AI doesn't even mention interest rates

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  Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 08:33 +1000
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                Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-07-01 08:58 +1000
                Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz> - 2026-07-01 01:13 +0200
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                Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-07-01 10:49 +1000
                Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz> - 2026-07-02 01:05 +0200
                Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-07-02 09:58 +1000
                Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-07-02 10:48 +1000
                Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz> - 2026-07-02 03:09 +0200
                Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-07-02 21:55 +1000
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                Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-07-03 02:29 +1000
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                Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-07-03 02:24 +1000
                Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-07-03 02:17 +1000
                Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-07-02 20:25 +1000
                Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-07-02 21:55 +1000
                Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz> - 2026-07-03 02:02 +0200
                Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz> - 2026-07-03 01:49 +0200
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                Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 17:58 +1000
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                Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 17:38 +1000
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                Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz> - 2026-07-01 01:20 +0200
                Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-07-01 09:40 +1000
                Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-07-01 10:57 +1000
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