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  Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2026-06-28 11:33 +0200
    Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 08:33 +1000
      Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 08:44 +1000
        Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 09:22 +1000
          Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 09:47 +1000
            Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 10:30 +1000
              Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 10:40 +1000
                Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 12:03 +1000
                  Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 14:29 +1000
                    Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 15:01 +1000
                      Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 17:33 +1000
                        Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-06-30 08:00 +1000
                          Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz> - 2026-06-30 00:21 +0200
                            Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-06-30 10:46 +1000
                              Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz> - 2026-06-30 03:01 +0200
                                Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-30 19:36 +1000
                                  Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-07-01 07:49 +1000
                                    Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-07-01 08:58 +1000
                                    Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz> - 2026-07-01 01:13 +0200
                                      Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-07-01 09:33 +1000
                                        Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-07-01 10:49 +1000
                  Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Oped <oped@usenet.example> - 2026-06-30 13:07 +1000
                    Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-06-30 16:29 +1000
                      Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz> - 2026-07-01 01:20 +0200
                        Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-07-01 09:40 +1000
                          Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-07-01 10:57 +1000
                          Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-07-01 19:49 +1000
                            Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-07-01 21:23 +1000
      Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2026-06-29 11:07 +1000
        Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 14:11 +1000
          Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2026-07-01 09:18 +1000
            Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-07-01 10:28 +1000

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let slip she doesn't really care about little Aussie battlers

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#19226

On Sun, 28 Jun 2026 11:33:39 +0200 (CEST), Nomen Nescio
<nobody@dizum.com> wrote:

>let slip she doesn't really care about little Aussie battlers
>
And you like most listened to her speech?
Or reading the lobbyist run fakenews media rant?

"Our" Media and Major parties are run by lobbyists

Lobbyists write the laws, parliament sells the laws,
paid lucrative commissions for passing their laws.
That’s the modern legislative business of parliament.

When we talk about paying-off politicians in third-world
countries we call it bribery.
However, when we undertake the same process in parliament.
we call it lobbying.
--
Petzl
In a democracy of course you always get a choice
Do you want to be governed by the red or by the blue
it’s entirely up to you
Do you want to be patronized or condescended to, by liars or by crooks
you get to choose.
Would you prefer your fundamental values to be insulted or ignored by
con-men or by charlatans
In short do you want your influence to be zero or nil
and when would you like to be listened to, never or not at all, it’s
your choice
Do you want, some more choices.
Take-it-or-leave-it
Now there’s a real choice
we have proportional voting in Australia USE IT
I’d be happy with any kind of representation wouldn't you

I would like to see a new government and part of me doesn't’give a
damn who’s in it as long as it doesn't’include anybody from the Labor,
Liberal or Green party organizations that show itself to be without
shame or principle

All spineless and authoritarian both cowardly and war mongering at the
same time

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#19228

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote

>> let slip she doesn't really care about little Aussie battlers

> And you like most listened to her speech?

I did and that's what she said

> Or reading the lobbyist run fakenews media rant?

> "Our" Media and Major parties are run by lobbyists

Complete and utter pig ignorant bullshit with the ABC

> Lobbyists write the laws,

Bullshit they do. They clearly didn't write the
changes to negative gearing or the CGT

> parliament sells the laws,
> paid lucrative commissions for passing their laws.

More of your bullshit and lies

> That’s the modern legislative business of parliament.

More of your bullshit and lies

> When we talk about paying-off politicians in third-world
> countries we call it bribery.

> However, when we undertake the same process in parliament.
> we call it lobbying.

Only fools like you do anything of the sort

<reams of yank bullshit flushed where it belongs>

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#19229

On Mon, 29 Jun 2026 08:44:00 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>> Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote
>
>>> let slip she doesn't really care about little Aussie battlers
>
>> And you like most listened to her speech?
>
>I did and that's what she said
>
I heard her say 
"Fit in or fuck off"
Not what you are claiming?
-- 
Petzl
An evil enemy will from within, 
will burn his own nation to then rule over the ashes.
   Chinese military strategist Sun Tzu 
   (author of The Art of War), 5th century BC.

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#19231

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote

>>>> let slip she doesn't really care about little Aussie battlers

>>> And you like most listened to her speech?

>> I did and that's what she said

> I heard her say
> "Fit in or fuck off"

She never said anything like that even using different words

> Not what you are claiming?

While she did rave on about what problems she
claims lots are having, she didn't propose any
fixes for any of them and in fact has just voted
against the recent pay rises and the budget
changes like the tax handouts for those

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#19235

On Mon, 29 Jun 2026 09:47:33 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote
>
>>>>> let slip she doesn't really care about little Aussie battlers
>
>>>> And you like most listened to her speech?
>
>>> I did and that's what she said
>
>> I heard her say
>> "Fit in or fuck off"
>
>She never said anything like that even using different words
>
So you watched (if you did at all) on ABC
>
>> Not what you are claiming?
>
>While she did rave on about what problems she
>claims lots are having, she didn't propose any
>fixes for any of them and in fact has just voted
>against the recent pay rises and the budget
>changes like the tax handouts for those
-- 
Petzl

Our Australian commonwealth has survived numerous recessions, one
major depression, and two world wars. 
Doubt if it will survive under a Albanese Labor Government.

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#19236

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote

>>>>>> let slip she doesn't really care about little Aussie battlers

>>>>> And you like most listened to her speech?

>>>> I did and that's what she said

>>> I heard her say
>>> "Fit in or fuck off"

>> She never said anything like that even using different words

> So you watched (if you did at all) on ABC

Yep, watched it on iView

>>> Not what you are claiming?

>> While she did rave on about what problems she
>> claims lots are having, she didn't propose any
>> fixes for any of them and in fact has just voted
>> against the recent pay rises and the budget
>> changes like the tax handouts for those

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#19240

On Mon, 29 Jun 2026 10:40:30 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote
>
>>>>>>> let slip she doesn't really care about little Aussie battlers
>
>>>>>> And you like most listened to her speech?
>
>>>>> I did and that's what she said
>
>>>> I heard her say
>>>> "Fit in or fuck off"
>
>>> She never said anything like that even using different words
>
>> So you watched (if you did at all) on ABC
>
>Yep, watched it on iView
>
As far as I know it was only on the National Press Conference
https://youtu.be/kSYatJcVELU?si=rRfE1QY-HgJ8x3RD
  Pauline Hanson Monoculture

How multiculturalism was endorsed by the High Court of Australia
By redefining Religion by talking around it.

Scientology Example: Founding Culture vs Modern Court Let's use
Scientology (Church of the New Faith v Commissioner of Pay-Roll Tax
(Vic) HCA 40)—a tax case where the High Court defined "religion"
broadly, exempting it from payroll tax as a "religious institution".

Strict "Founding Culture" Reading 1900 Context: 96% Christian
population; "religion" meant Protestant/Catholic denominations
(Anglican 39%, Catholic 23%, Presbyterian 12%).
Framers like Downer called Australia a "Christian Commonwealth";
non-Christian faiths <1% (Jews, etc.).

Section 116's "any religion" assumed Christian pluralism amid Sunday
laws debates.
Handling: Scientology (founded 1954, Hubbard's sci-fi
cosmology/thetans) fails 1900 "ordinary meaning"—no supernatural
Being/God, profit-driven courses, no ethical canon beyond self-help.

Court rejects as "charlatanry," denies exemption; states regulate as
business/cult, preserving Christian heritage without referendum.

How the Court Actually Handled It 1983 Ruling (Mason CJ, Brennan,
Murphy, Wilson, Deane JJ; Gibbs CJ dissenting):
Adopted functional test—belief in supernatural Being/Principle +
acceptance of canons of conduct (offences against ordinary law
unprotected).

Scientology qualifies via thetans (immortal spirits), ethics codes,
rituals.

Impact: Exempt from Vic payroll tax; sets national precedent for
charities, s116.

Murphy J emphasized protecting "heresy" from orthodoxy; no founding
intent lock-in—words evolve for new realities (e.g., U.S. analogies to
non-theistic beliefs).

No Referendum Needed: Court views as application, not amendment—text
unchanged, just broader scope.

This analysis of the 1983 Church of the New Faith v Commissioner of
Pay-Roll Tax (Vic) case perfectly illustrates the exact legal
mechanism that fuels the debate over judicial power versus
original intent.

By detailing both perspectives, it clarifies how a system can legally
drift away from its founding culture without ever changing a single
letter of its written law.

The Originalist Frustration

The "Strict Founding Culture" reading demonstrates exactly why many
voters feel politically manipulated by

the legal system:
The Textual Bait-and-Switch: The founders wrote the
words "any religion" in a 1900 context where that undeniably meant
Christian denominations.

Bypassing the Public: Under a strict originalist view, if a completely
modern, sci-fi-based movement wanted the tax benefits of a church, it
should have been put to a referendum.

The Consequences: By bypassing a Section 128 vote, the High Court
effectively acted as a "mini-parliament," creating a massive tax
loophole for a group the founders would have easily classified as a
business enterprise

The Judicial Reality
The "How the Court Actually Handled It" section
explains the administrative mechanics of the modern Australian legal
system:
Connotation vs. Denotation:
The judges did not change the text of Section 116; they simply
expanded the list of things that fit inside the definition of the word
"religion".
"The Danger of Narrow Definitions:
Justices Mason and Brennan argued that if the court restricted
"religion" only to Christianity, it would leave the state with the
terrifying power to decide which specific beliefs are "true" or
"false"—a power that historically leads to authoritarianism.

The Murphy Doctrine: Justice Lionel Murphy’s insistence on protecting
"heresy" highlights the shift toward international human rights
standards over traditional British-Australian cultural preservation.

The Ultimate Loophole
This case provides the ultimate blueprint for how Australia
transformed from the "Christian Commonwealth" envisioned by Sir John
Downer into the modern, multicultural state it is today.

It proves that the major political parties do not need to risk a
referendum to change the nation’s cultural direction.

They simply pass broad, vaguely worded statutes, and let a highly
trained, unelected judiciary expand the definitions over time to
accommodate international treaties, global movements, and new
demographic realities
-- 
Petzl

Our Australian commonwealth has survived numerous recessions, one
major depression, and two world wars. 
Doubt if it will survive under a Albanese Labor Government.

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#19242

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote

>>>>>>>> let slip she doesn't really care about little Aussie battlers

>>>>>>> And you like most listened to her speech?

>>>>>> I did and that's what she said

>>>>> I heard her say
>>>>> "Fit in or fuck off"

>>>> She never said anything like that even using different words

>>> So you watched (if you did at all) on ABC

>> Yep, watched it on iView

> As far as I know it was only on the National Press Conference
> https://youtu.be/kSYatJcVELU?si=rRfE1QY-HgJ8x3RD
>   Pauline Hanson Monoculture

She has since rabbited on about it elsewhere as well

> How multiculturalism was endorsed by the High Court of Australia

Bullshit it ever did

> By redefining Religion by talking around it.

No religion was ever redefined and multiculture
has always been around LONG before there was
ever any federal constitution or any High Court

> Scientology Example: Founding Culture vs Modern Court Let's use
> Scientology (Church of the New Faith v Commissioner of Pay-Roll Tax
> (Vic) HCA 40)—a tax case where the High Court defined "religion"
> broadly, exempting it from payroll tax as a "religious institution".

Irrelevant to multiculturalism, that was JUST making it clear
what the court believed that the tax law applied to and didn't
refine religion at all

> Strict "Founding Culture" Reading 1900 Context: 96% Christian
> population; "religion" meant Protestant/Catholic denominations
> (Anglican 39%, Catholic 23%, Presbyterian 12%).

Mindless bullshit the jews, chinese, afghans, abos. sikhs etc

> Framers like Downer called Australia a "Christian Commonwealth";

And S116 says the exact opposite

> non-Christian faiths <1% (Jews, etc.).

> Section 116's "any religion" assumed Christian pluralism amid Sunday
> laws debates.

Bullshit it did anything of the sort

> Handling: Scientology (founded 1954, Hubbard's sci-fi
> cosmology/thetans) fails 1900 "ordinary meaning"—no supernatural
> Being/God, profit-driven courses, no ethical canon beyond self-help.

More mindless bullshit given the real meaning of that word
which includes some belief in some supernatural being and
obviously included a hell of a lot more than just christianity

> Court rejects as "charlatanry," denies exemption; states regulate as
> business/cult, preserving Christian heritage without referendum.

Irrelevant to the real meaning of religion which includes
some belief in some supernatural  being and obviously
includes a hell of a lot more than just christianity

And some religions don't even include any belief in some
supernatural being

> How the Court Actually Handled It 1983 Ruling (Mason CJ, Brennan,
> Murphy, Wilson, Deane JJ; Gibbs CJ dissenting):
> Adopted functional test—belief in supernatural Being/Principle +
> acceptance of canons of conduct (offences against ordinary law
> unprotected).

> Scientology qualifies via thetans (immortal spirits), ethics codes,
> rituals.

> Impact: Exempt from Vic payroll tax; sets national precedent for
> charities, s116.

All irrelevant to multiculturalism

> Murphy J emphasized protecting "heresy" from orthodoxy; no founding
> intent lock-in—words evolve for new realities (e.g., U.S. analogies to
> non-theistic beliefs).

> No Referendum Needed: Court views as application, not amendment—text
> unchanged, just broader scope.

<reams of crap irrelevant to multiculturalism flushed where it belongs>

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#19243

On Mon, 29 Jun 2026 14:29:28 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote
>
>>>>>>>>> let slip she doesn't really care about little Aussie battlers
>
>>>>>>>> And you like most listened to her speech?
>
>>>>>>> I did and that's what she said
>
>>>>>> I heard her say
>>>>>> "Fit in or fuck off"
>
>>>>> She never said anything like that even using different words
>
>>>> So you watched (if you did at all) on ABC
>
>>> Yep, watched it on iView
>
>> As far as I know it was only on the National Press Conference
>> https://youtu.be/kSYatJcVELU?si=rRfE1QY-HgJ8x3RD
>>   Pauline Hanson Monoculture
>
>She has since rabbited on about it elsewhere as well
>
>> How multiculturalism was endorsed by the High Court of Australia
>
>Bullshit it ever did
>
>> By redefining Religion by talking around it.
>
>No religion was ever redefined and multiculture
>has always been around LONG before there was
>ever any federal constitution or any High Court
>
>> Scientology Example: Founding Culture vs Modern Court Let's use
>> Scientology (Church of the New Faith v Commissioner of Pay-Roll Tax
>> (Vic) HCA 40)—a tax case where the High Court defined "religion"
>> broadly, exempting it from payroll tax as a "religious institution".
>
>Irrelevant to multiculturalism, that was JUST making it clear
>what the court believed that the tax law applied to and didn't
>refine religion at all
>
>> Strict "Founding Culture" Reading 1900 Context: 96% Christian
>> population; "religion" meant Protestant/Catholic denominations
>> (Anglican 39%, Catholic 23%, Presbyterian 12%).
>
>Mindless bullshit the jews, chinese, afghans, abos. sikhs etc
>
Australian colonists demanded Australia become a  Christian only
Monoculture, without that guarantee Federation would of been still
born.

Sir John Downer Kings Council, stated, when the Australian
Constitution was finally adopted and on behalf of future generations,
‘Our Australian Commonwealth from its first stage will be a Christian
Commonwealth’.



The Originalist Frustration

The "Strict Founding Culture" reading demonstrates exactly why many
voters feel politically manipulated by

the legal system:
The Textual Bait-and-Switch: The founders wrote the
words "any religion" in a 1900 context where that 
undeniably only meant Christian denominations.

Bypassing the Public: 
Under a strict originalist view, if a completely modern, sci-fi-based
movement wanted the tax benefits of a church, it should have been put
to a referendum.

The Consequences:
By bypassing a Section 128 vote, the High Court effectively acted as a
"mini-parliament," creating a massive tax loophole for a group the
founders would have easily classified as a business enterprise

The Judicial Reality
The "How the Court Actually Handled It" section explains the
administrative mechanics of the modern Australian legal system
Connotation vs. Denotation:
The judges did not change the text of Section 116; they simply
expanded the list of things that fit inside the definition of the word
"religion".

"The Danger of Narrow Definitions:
Justices Mason and Brennan argued that if the court restricted
"religion" only to Christianity, it would leave the state with the
terrifying power to decide which specific beliefs are "true" or
"false"—a power that historically leads to authoritarianism.

The Murphy Doctrine: Justice Lionel Murphy’s insistence on protecting
"heresy" highlights the shift toward international human rights
standards over traditional British-Australian cultural preservation.

The Ultimate Loophole
This case provides the ultimate blueprint for how Australia
transformed from the "Christian Commonwealth" envisioned by Sir John
Downer into the modern, multicultural state it is today.

It proves that the major political parties do not need to risk a
referendum to change the nation’s cultural direction.

They simply pass broad, vaguely worded statutes, and let a highly
trained, unelected judiciary expand the definitions over time to
accommodate international treaties, global movements, and new
demographic realities
-- 
Petzl 
It's hard to win an argument with a smart person but it's damn near impossible to win
an argument with a stupid person

When you're dead, you don't know you're dead. 
The pain is felt by others.

The same thing happens when you're stupid

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#19245

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote

>>>>>>>>>> let slip she doesn't really care about little Aussie battlers

>>>>>>>>> And you like most listened to her speech?

>>>>>>>> I did and that's what she said

>>>>>>> I heard her say
>>>>>>> "Fit in or fuck off"

>>>>>> She never said anything like that even using different words

>>>>> So you watched (if you did at all) on ABC

>>>> Yep, watched it on iView

>>> As far as I know it was only on the National Press Conference
>>> https://youtu.be/kSYatJcVELU?si=rRfE1QY-HgJ8x3RD
>>>   Pauline Hanson Monoculture

>> She has since rabbited on about it elsewhere as well

>>> Strict "Founding Culture" Reading 1900 Context: 96% Christian
>>> population; "religion" meant Protestant/Catholic denominations
>>> (Anglican 39%, Catholic 23%, Presbyterian 12%).

>> Mindless bullshit given the jews, chinese, afghans, abos. sikhs etc

> Australian colonists demanded Australia become a  Christian only
> Monoculture,

That never happened, most obviously with the jews, afghans, abos. sikhs etc

> without that guarantee Federation would of been still   born.

Complete and utter pig ignorant bullshit

> Sir John Downer Kings Council, stated, when the Australian
> Constitution was finally adopted and on behalf of future generations,
> ‘Our Australian Commonwealth from its first stage will be a Christian
> Commonwealth’.

And the constitution ended up with S116 ANYWAY

> The Originalist Frustration

> The "Strict Founding Culture" reading demonstrates exactly why many
> voters feel politically manipulated by

> the legal system:
> The Textual Bait-and-Switch: The founders wrote the
> words "any religion" in a 1900 context where that
> undeniably only meant Christian denominations.

Mindless bullshit given the jews, chinese, afghans, abos. sikhs etc

> Bypassing the Public:
> Under a strict originalist view, if a completely modern, sci-fi-based
> movement wanted the tax benefits of a church, it should have been put
> to a referendum.

More mindless bullshit as your previous steaming turd said

> The Consequences:
> By bypassing a Section 128 vote, the High Court effectively acted as a
> "mini-parliament," creating a massive tax loophole for a group the
> founders would have easily classified as a business enterprise

There never was any bypassing of S128 because
there was no change to the constitution

> The Judicial Reality
> The "How the Court Actually Handled It" section explains the
> administrative mechanics of the modern Australian legal system
> Connotation vs. Denotation:
> The judges did not change the text of Section 116; they simply
> expanded the list of things that fit inside the definition of the word
> "religion".

There was no expansion because religion is not defined in the constitution

> "The Danger of Narrow Definitions:
> Justices Mason and Brennan argued that if the court restricted
> "religion" only to Christianity, it would leave the state with the
> terrifying power to decide which specific beliefs are "true" or
> "false"—a power that historically leads to authoritarianism.

And that is correct

> The Murphy Doctrine: Justice Lionel Murphy’s insistence on protecting
> "heresy"

There is no such doctrine

> highlights the shift toward international human rights   standards

More mindless bullshit given that WE HAVE ALWAYS HAD MULTICULTURALISM

> over traditional British-Australian cultural preservation.

No such animal

> The Ultimate Loophole
> This case provides the ultimate blueprint for how Australia
> transformed from the "Christian Commonwealth" envisioned by Sir John
> Downer into the modern, multicultural state it is today.

While he wanted that, that never happened
so there never was any transformation

> It proves that the major political parties do not need to risk a
> referendum to change the nation’s cultural direction.

There never was any change in cultural direction given
that WE HAVE ALWAYS HAD MULTICULTURALISM

> They simply pass broad, vaguely worded statutes, and let a highly
> trained, unelected judiciary expand the definitions over time to
> accommodate international treaties, global movements, and new
> demographic realities

That never happened given that WE HAVE ALWAYS HAD MULTICULTURALISM

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#19247

On Mon, 29 Jun 2026 17:33:35 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>wrote

-- 
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     https://tinyurl.com/z5hh3shh  
Rod Speed is known in Usenet communities as a notorious 
argumentative figure often labeled a troll.

So says Rod speed a egotistical self appointed know-all who knows nothing
Rod has been on newgroups since the 80's and still the same

Rod Speed a annoying  Australian can type faster than you can talk
Best to ignore or he will continue to bait you
Rod speed a egotistical self appointed know-all who knows nothing
Rod has been on newgroups since the 80's and still the same

When he starts short vulgar bursts just stop replying--

If you want to practice talking to his idiot responses Australia has a
bot to practice with or he white ants you overtime you post!
"The Rod Speed Bot"
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#19249

# /This is a reply to pre-filtered & auto edited post/
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> ....

Oh NO!
Petz has run out of additional brain-numbing bullshit to post, so no he 
keeps on posting empty space.

   :-P    :-P    :-P    :-P    :-P    :-P    :-P    :-P    :-P    :-P

-- 
Ördög
Your unfriendly newsgroup devil at your service

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#19251

On Tue, 30 Jun 2026 00:21:43 +0200, The Newsgroup Devil
<Devil@Hell.biz> wrote:

>Oh NO!
>Petz has run out of additional brain-numbing bullshit to post, so no he 
>keeps on posting empty space.
>
No good posing to empty spaces like Ördög
Ördög's cholesterol levels are too low, impacting his brain function
-- 
Now under the commie troll name
"The Newsgroup Devil"
Ördög the Armchair communist
https://youtu.be/I-aQkAzTJSs?si=nb1vHyJ7a6ImK0zt

As Red as a tomato and nutritious as strychnine
he is anti-system and anti-global capitalism.
That is why his No1 purpose in life is to fight
for mass immigration promoted by politicians 
and big business.
He attacks working class resistance with bricks and eggs
then go listen to a speech by the local MP about
how great diversity is.
He believes he is such a radical

Communists View the Church as a Huge, Huge Firewall 
Against What They Want to Do

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#19253

# /This is a reply to pre-filtered & auto edited post/
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> Ördög
> 
>> Oh NO!
>> Petz has run out of additional brain-numbing bullshit to post, so now he
>> keeps on posting empty space.
>>
> No good posing to empty spaces like Ördög
> Ördög's cholesterol levels are too low, impacting his brain function

ROTFLOL!
That must be one of your lamest replies ever, Petz dear, in tying to 
justify your inability to respond at all to people who are critical of 
your insults on the newsgroup's sanity.

:-P    :-P    :-P    :-P   :-P

PS: How is your much fabled Xtian fundy theocracy monoculture plans 
championed by One Nation for OZ are coming along? I heard via the 
grapevine that it has lost some of its shiny varnish for the majority of 
the OZ electorates.

-- 
Ördög
Your amused newsgroup devil at your service

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#19256

On 30/06/2026 11:01 am, The Newsgroup Devil wrote:
> # /This is a reply to pre-filtered & auto edited post/
> # /All quoted inputs by kill-file residents have been expunged/
> 
>> Ördög
>>
>>> Oh NO!
>>> Petz has run out of additional brain-numbing bullshit to post, so now he
>>> keeps on posting empty space.
>>>
>> No good posing to empty spaces like Ördög
>> Ördög's cholesterol levels are too low, impacting his brain function
> 
> ROTFLOL!
> That must be one of your lamest replies ever, Petz dear, in tying to 
> justify your inability to respond at all to people who are critical of 
> your insults on the newsgroup's sanity.
> 
> :-P    :-P    :-P    :-P   :-P
> 
> PS: How is your much fabled Xtian fundy theocracy monoculture plans 
> championed by One Nation for OZ are coming along? I heard via the 
> grapevine that it has lost some of its shiny varnish for the majority of 
> the OZ electorates.
> 
Yeah, I was watching ABC 24 today and they showed a Poll result which 
had Labor at about 40%, ON at about 22% and coalition at about 15% (or 
something like that).

So better for Labor, not so good for Coalition!!
-- 
Daniel70

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#19259

On Tue, 30 Jun 2026 19:36:42 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

>On 30/06/2026 11:01 am, The Newsgroup Devil wrote:
>> # /This is a reply to pre-filtered & auto edited post/
>> # /All quoted inputs by kill-file residents have been expunged/
>> 
>>> Ördög
>>>
>>>> Oh NO!
>>>> Petz has run out of additional brain-numbing bullshit to post, so now he
>>>> keeps on posting empty space.
>>>>
>>> No good posing to empty spaces like Ördög
>>> Ördög's cholesterol levels are too low, impacting his brain function
>> 
>> ROTFLOL!
>> That must be one of your lamest replies ever, Petz dear, in tying to 
>> justify your inability to respond at all to people who are critical of 
>> your insults on the newsgroup's sanity.
>> 
>> :-P    :-P    :-P    :-P   :-P
>> 
>> PS: How is your much fabled Xtian fundy theocracy monoculture plans 
>> championed by One Nation for OZ are coming along? I heard via the 
>> grapevine that it has lost some of its shiny varnish for the majority of 
>> the OZ electorates.
>> 
>Yeah, I was watching ABC 24 today and they showed a Poll result which 
>had Labor at about 40%, ON at about 22% and coalition at about 15% (or 
>something like that).
>
>So better for Labor, not so good for Coalition!!
>
So a ABC poll would not be biased, part of us being a Monoculture is
for the ABC to rely on it's own funding?
 But then you can't figure why a Bus takes longer in getting me home!

The people turning to One Nation are doing so because they’ve seen
what the Coalition and Labor did. They watched an elite political
class impose ruinous rules and regulations upon our country. They
endured economic and cultural experiments conducted by a protected
political species. They voted but weren’t heard.
Monoculture Australian voters are seeing these absolute Willards have
taken Australian fortunes and turned them into a trillion-dollar debt.
They’ve converted Australia from an energy supersource into a climate
panic zone where families can’t pay power bills. 
They’ve erased our geographic and political independence by shackling
us to the unelected and unaccountable UN.

<https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/politics/one-nation-records-historic-result-in-latest-poll-since-hansons-monoculture-call-despite-albanese-rejecting-it-as-nonsense/news-story/3ecdbeb123199de72a7c12b4fb9efbd2>
      https://tinyurl.com/mryt98h9
Australians inclined to support One Nation have seen all of this. 
They have seen, during the past 20 years, how everything bad about
Australia is caused by governments.

Now, of course, you’re hearing from the major parties and apologists
for mainstream politics that One Nation isn’t ready for government. 
--
Petzl
"Our" Media and Major parties are run by lobbyists

Lobbyists write the laws, parliament sells the laws,
paid lucrative commissions for passing their laws.
That’s the modern legislative business of parliament.

When we talk about paying-off politicians in third-world
countries we call it bribery.
However, when we undertake the same process in parliament.
we call it lobbying.

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#19260

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote
>> The Newsgroup Devil wrote

>>> How is your much fabled Xtian fundy theocracy monoculture plans
>>> championed by One Nation for OZ are coming along? I heard via the
>>> grapevine that it has lost some of its shiny varnish for the majority  
>>> of   the OZ electorates.

>> Yeah, I was watching ABC 24 today and they showed a Poll result which
>> had Labor at about 40%, ON at about 22% and coalition at about 15% (or
>> something like that).

>> So better for Labor, not so good for Coalition!!

> So a ABC poll would not be biased,

The ABC doesn't do polls, it was reporting someone else's poll

> part of us being a Monoculture is   forthe ABC to rely on it's own  
> funding?

Nothing whatever to do with monoculture

> The people turning to One Nation are doing so because they’ve seen
> what the Coalition and Labor did.

Nope, they have actually been stupid enough
to be fooled by Hanson's mindless bullshit and
given that she hasn't taken a labor seat for more
than 30 years, and didn't hold any of those for
more than a couple of years, well before the
next state election, that obviously had NOTHING
to do with federal labor and was at most about
the Beatie labor govt in Qld at that time

> They watched an elite political   class

We don't have anything even remotely like that

> impose ruinous rules and regulations upon our country.

Nothing ruinous about any of those which
has happened under the Albo govt which is
when one notion surged in the useless polls

> They   endured economic and cultural experimentsconducted by a  
> protected   political species.

Mindless bullshit given what happened to Dutton
and the coalition in the most recent federal election

> They voted but weren’t heard.

Mindless bullshit given what happened to Dutton
and the coalition in the most recent federal election

> Monoculture Australian voters

There has never been anything even remotely like
that in this country even when the white australia
policy was all the rage given jews, roman catholics
and protestants

> are seeing these absolute Willards

Whatever that shit is about

> have   taken Australian fortunes and turned them into a trillion-dollar  
> debt.

More mindless bullshit given that the coalition actually
had some federal govt years with no federal debt

> They’ve converted Australia from an energy supersource

It was never that

> into a climate   panic zone where families can’t pay power bills.

There were always some that couldnt pay their power
bills because they were financially incompetant and
chose to spend what income they had one illegal
drugs and cigarettes instead of their bills

> They’ve erased our geographic and political independence

Complete and utter mindless bullshit

> by shackling   us to the unelected and unaccountable UN.

Complete and utter mindless bullshit

> <https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/politics/one-nation-records-historic-result-in-latest-poll-since-hansons-monoculture-call-despite-albanese-rejecting-it-as-nonsense/news-story/3ecdbeb123199de72a7c12b4fb9efbd2>
>       https://tinyurl.com/mryt98h9

Pity about what this says about polls
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG?rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&dl=0

> Australians inclined to support One Nation have seen all of this.
> They have seen, during the past 20 years, how everything bad about
> Australia is caused by governments.

More completely mindless bullshit with covid alone

> Now, of course, you’re hearing from the major parties and apologists
> for mainstream politics that One Nation isn’t ready for government.

And Hanson has just proved that, yet again

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#19261

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> Daniel70 >> Ördög>>> Petz>>>> Ördög>>>>>>>>> Oh NO!>>>>> Petz has run out of 
additional brain-numbing bullshit to post, so now he>>>>> keeps on 
posting empty space.>>>>>>>>> No good posing to empty spaces like 
Ördög>>>> Ördög's cholesterol levels are too low, impacting his brain 
function>>>>>> ROTFLOL!>>> That must be one of your lamest replies ever, 
Petz dear, in tying to>>> justify your inability to respond at all to 
people who are critical of>>> your insults on the newsgroup's sanity.

>>> PS: How is your much fabled Xtian fundy theocracy monoculture plans
>>> championed by One Nation for OZ are coming along? I heard via the
>>> grapevine that it has lost some of its shiny varnish for the majority of
>>> the OZ electorates.
>>>
>> Yeah, I was watching ABC 24 today and they showed a Poll result which
>> had Labor at about 40%, ON at about 22% and coalition at about 15% (or
>> something like that).
>>
>> So better for Labor, not so good for Coalition!!
>>
> So a ABC poll would not be biased,

So when ABC brings the news about a poll result, you assume it was 
conducted by the ABC???
Absolute moron! There was NO ABC poll!

> part of us being a Monoculture is for the ABC to rely on it's own funding?

Speak for your fundamentalist idiot self, Petz dear! The bulk of the 
Australian population today is NOT a monoculture (thank goodness for 
that) so suck it up sunshine!

>   But then you can't figure why a Bus takes longer in getting me home!

When are you back from your Siberian excursion Petz dear?
Maybe you should consider delaying your return. Your fish&chips auntie's 
fascist monocultural theocracy does not seem to be progressing with the 
lightening speed as it was predicted by Murdoch and Sky News.

> The people turning to One Nation are doing so because 

...either they are absolutely gullible and fully brain-washed or they 
are simply raging racist sociopath idiots like you for instance!

> they’ve seen
> what the Coalition and Labor did.

Yeah, The majority of voters have clearly seen what the Coalition have 
been doing over the past couple of decades and hence decided to stick 
with Labor instead.

If you have problems with democratic majorities please feel free to 
arrange a permanent resident status in theocratic-monoculture shithole 
country somewhere near your current location, Petz dear!

> They watched an elite political
> class impose ruinous rules and regulations upon our country.

That is your beloved capitalism at work. Suck it up sunshine.

/heavy duty bullshit snipper activated/

> skynews ... 

...the trademark propaganda outlet for alt-right grifting, scamming and 
lying for benefit of the power obsessed upper-class.
NEXT!

> One Nation isn’t ready for government.

One Nation isn't fit to govern any decent human beings anywhere on this 
planet of ours.

      :-P    :-P    :-P    :-P    :-P    :-P

-- 
Ördög
Your relentless newsgroup devil at your service

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#19264

On Wed, 1 Jul 2026 01:13:58 +0200, The Newsgroup Devil
<Devil@Hell.biz> wrote:

>
>> One Nation isn’t ready for government.
>
>One Nation isn't fit to govern any decent human beings anywhere on this 
>planet of ours.
>
Coming from a Stalinist that's rich.
Feeding his regime by murdering 8 million of his citizens sounds very
much like what Albanese is doing.
Doing the 1987 Keating thing to takeaway asset value of peoples
houses, to house and home his mass immigration of dole receiving Isis
terrorists is more important.

To have Australia a Monoculture of course makes sense.

Everything Paul Keating Labor did in 1987 is near being repeated by
Albanese Labor in 2026!

The rest of this repeated disaster is now happening again?
Labor under Paul Keating in 1987, properties crashing, bank interest
rates hitting 20%. rentals became scarce and rents sky rocket, little
new construction!

House prices fall in four capital cities as Sydney values drop nearly
$50,000 in June this year.

Now, of course, you’re hearing from the major parties and apologists
for mainstream politics that One Nation isn’t ready for government. 

>
>      :-P    :-P    :-P    :-P    :-P    :-P
>
>-- 
>Ördög
>Your relentless newsgroup devil at your service
-- 
Petzl

Our Australian commonwealth has survived numerous recessions, one
major depression, and two world wars. 
Doubt if it will survive under a Albanese Labor Government.

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