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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Newsgroups | aus.politics, aus.general |
| Subject | Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant |
| Date | 2026-06-29 14:29 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <op.3rnv3eklbyq249@pvr2.lan> (permalink) |
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Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote >>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote >>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>> Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote >>>>>>>> let slip she doesn't really care about little Aussie battlers >>>>>>> And you like most listened to her speech? >>>>>> I did and that's what she said >>>>> I heard her say >>>>> "Fit in or fuck off" >>>> She never said anything like that even using different words >>> So you watched (if you did at all) on ABC >> Yep, watched it on iView > As far as I know it was only on the National Press Conference > https://youtu.be/kSYatJcVELU?si=rRfE1QY-HgJ8x3RD > Pauline Hanson Monoculture She has since rabbited on about it elsewhere as well > How multiculturalism was endorsed by the High Court of Australia Bullshit it ever did > By redefining Religion by talking around it. No religion was ever redefined and multiculture has always been around LONG before there was ever any federal constitution or any High Court > Scientology Example: Founding Culture vs Modern Court Let's use > Scientology (Church of the New Faith v Commissioner of Pay-Roll Tax > (Vic) HCA 40)—a tax case where the High Court defined "religion" > broadly, exempting it from payroll tax as a "religious institution". Irrelevant to multiculturalism, that was JUST making it clear what the court believed that the tax law applied to and didn't refine religion at all > Strict "Founding Culture" Reading 1900 Context: 96% Christian > population; "religion" meant Protestant/Catholic denominations > (Anglican 39%, Catholic 23%, Presbyterian 12%). Mindless bullshit the jews, chinese, afghans, abos. sikhs etc > Framers like Downer called Australia a "Christian Commonwealth"; And S116 says the exact opposite > non-Christian faiths <1% (Jews, etc.). > Section 116's "any religion" assumed Christian pluralism amid Sunday > laws debates. Bullshit it did anything of the sort > Handling: Scientology (founded 1954, Hubbard's sci-fi > cosmology/thetans) fails 1900 "ordinary meaning"—no supernatural > Being/God, profit-driven courses, no ethical canon beyond self-help. More mindless bullshit given the real meaning of that word which includes some belief in some supernatural being and obviously included a hell of a lot more than just christianity > Court rejects as "charlatanry," denies exemption; states regulate as > business/cult, preserving Christian heritage without referendum. Irrelevant to the real meaning of religion which includes some belief in some supernatural being and obviously includes a hell of a lot more than just christianity And some religions don't even include any belief in some supernatural being > How the Court Actually Handled It 1983 Ruling (Mason CJ, Brennan, > Murphy, Wilson, Deane JJ; Gibbs CJ dissenting): > Adopted functional test—belief in supernatural Being/Principle + > acceptance of canons of conduct (offences against ordinary law > unprotected). > Scientology qualifies via thetans (immortal spirits), ethics codes, > rituals. > Impact: Exempt from Vic payroll tax; sets national precedent for > charities, s116. All irrelevant to multiculturalism > Murphy J emphasized protecting "heresy" from orthodoxy; no founding > intent lock-in—words evolve for new realities (e.g., U.S. analogies to > non-theistic beliefs). > No Referendum Needed: Court views as application, not amendment—text > unchanged, just broader scope. <reams of crap irrelevant to multiculturalism flushed where it belongs>
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Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2026-06-28 11:33 +0200
Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 08:33 +1000
Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 08:44 +1000
Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 09:22 +1000
Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 09:47 +1000
Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 10:30 +1000
Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 10:40 +1000
Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 12:03 +1000
Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 14:29 +1000
Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 15:01 +1000
Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 17:33 +1000
Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-06-30 08:00 +1000
Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz> - 2026-06-30 00:21 +0200
Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-06-30 10:46 +1000
Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz> - 2026-06-30 03:01 +0200
Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-30 19:36 +1000
Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Oped <oped@usenet.example> - 2026-06-29 15:46 +1000
Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 16:55 +1000
Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 17:58 +1000
Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-06-30 08:00 +1000
Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 17:38 +1000
Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Oped <oped@usenet.example> - 2026-06-29 15:51 +1000
Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Oped <oped@usenet.example> - 2026-06-30 13:07 +1000
Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-06-30 16:29 +1000
Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2026-06-29 11:07 +1000
Re: Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 14:11 +1000
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